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    Quote Originally Posted by onalandline View Post
    First of all, illegals do not belong here, should not be paying taxes (through stolen identities or fraudulent SSN, or just plain governmental oversight), and cost a lot more to our economy than they fraudulently contribute.

    And don't tell me that these illegals that are infesting our public schools, especially in the southwest, are model students.
    They pay taxes using a number the government willingly gives them.


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    I agree with the subject line. Illegal immigration does have costs. For example, the fact that we have made some immigration illegal has created a black market for labor, which makes legal labor capital harder to allocate and allows for the exploitation of black market laborers. It creates a black market in transportation for illegal aliens, which subsidizes many of the things we hope to prevent. It assures that many of the people who get through the border specialize in illegal activities, so they're better at the things we don't wish them to be and aren't drowned out in influence by other immigrants. It is equivalent to a quota for physical capital, and is about as useful at reducing allocative and productive efficiency within the economy, and just as well-supported by irrational jerks who have a special interest they want to protect, but which in the long run harms everyone. So yes, the existence of illegal immigrants is quite costly. We could do something about that pretty quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EddyIsHere View Post
    They pay taxes using a number the government willingly gives them.
    Mostly under fraudulent pretenses.
    "The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents — number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. It’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic!" - Barack Hussein Obama

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    Quote Originally Posted by Automaton View Post
    I agree with the subject line. Illegal immigration does have costs. For example, the fact that we have made some immigration illegal has created a black market for labor, which makes legal labor capital harder to allocate and allows for the exploitation of black market laborers. It creates a black market in transportation for illegal aliens, which subsidizes many of the things we hope to prevent. It assures that many of the people who get through the border specialize in illegal activities, so they're better at the things we don't wish them to be and aren't drowned out in influence by other immigrants. It is equivalent to a quota for physical capital, and is about as useful at reducing allocative and productive efficiency within the economy, and just as well-supported by irrational jerks who have a special interest they want to protect, but which in the long run harms everyone. So yes, the existence of illegal immigrants is quite costly. We could do something about that pretty quickly.
    What would you suggest?
    "The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents — number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. It’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic!" - Barack Hussein Obama

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    Quote Originally Posted by EddyIsHere View Post
    They pay taxes using a number the government willingly gives them.
    There many who don't pay taxes like income taxes. They believe it just takes money away from them. They can easily file taxes but many don't. Then you have the ones who use fake and stolen IDs.
    Life is like a shark. It constantly has to move forward to survive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by onalandline View Post
    Mostly under fraudulent pretenses.
    Why would you use fraud to get an ITIN? You clearly don't have a clue how it works do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by onalandline View Post
    What would you suggest?
    No limit to legal immigration. Illegal immigration as a legal construct replaced with undocumented immigration, and no deportation of non-criminals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EddyIsHere View Post
    Why would you use fraud to get an ITIN? You clearly don't have a clue how it works do you?
    Come on buddy, I wasn't born yesterday. There is a complete underground network for illegals to get anything from a SSN to a driver's license.
    "The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents — number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. It’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic!" - Barack Hussein Obama

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    Quote Originally Posted by Automaton View Post
    No limit to legal immigration. Illegal immigration as a legal construct replaced with undocumented immigration, and no deportation of non-criminals.
    There is a legal way for pretty much anyone to come here as it is. Open borders, if that is what you are suggesting, is ludicrous.
    "The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents — number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. It’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic!" - Barack Hussein Obama

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    Quote Originally Posted by onalandline View Post
    Come on buddy, I wasn't born yesterday. There is a complete underground network for illegals to get anything from a SSN to a driver's license.
    And includes certificates and licenses(plumbers license etc).
    Life is like a shark. It constantly has to move forward to survive.


    I think it's about time we voted for senators with breasts. After all, we've been voting for boobs long enough. ~Clarie Sargent,

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