Are our elected officials so out of touch that they think that we would all (collectively) applaud this new plan to make life easier to illegals? The correct measure that would have our support would be one that cracks down on immigration, illegals, lax border security, etc.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/05/...ion/index.html

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The fact is that the "GOP base" is like a solution in a beaker over a flame. As it heats up, it both evaporates and becomes more concentrated. Years of ignoring changing demographics and promoting wedge issues has left the GOP with a shrinking base increasingly out of touch with issues that concern the majority of Americans. The party elite understands that to some extent, and in a rare moment of insight, President Bush realizes that catering to the "base" will result in a long-term minority status for his party. Unfortunately for him and his party, xenophobia is a major factor in holding together his coalition.

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GOP out of touch with their base?
That's a relief. The GOP base is out of touch with reality.

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The problem with the GOP is that they want to have it both ways. They want to be isolationists and yet they want to support the rich and their agenda. It's difficult to be rich without slave labor.

Actually I know several wealthy individuals, and while this may be hard to believe, not one of them owns any slaves.

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OK, I'll play

Revise:
It's diificult to be rich without cheap labor.

I wonder how you would explain the FACT that the immigration problem has been around a long time. In fact, a great number were coming in during the 90's----a Democrat administration----and not one of you Dems complained about it. Why didn't YOU decide to do something about it then----BEFORE it got totally out of hand? Perhaps it's because Clinton liked the good economy and the slave labor that was fueling it?

BTW, I don't believe you can call it slave labor. $15 per hour in some cases is NOT slave labor.

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Because of 9/11.....we need better border control so that terrorists don't get in.

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Well, this is a funny thing and I think I can explain it or illustrate my point in a fairly small amount of sentences. The GOP big shots, many of them aren't really conservatives. Socially and politically, the Republican Party is closest to the older Democratic party of the 20th century. Economically which is their biggest cylinder today, they are becoming the corporation party thinking what people want is them to to implement the best ways to make a buck which they don't do solidly anyway and they are ignoring more and more the basic principles that makes the society run that is so essentially important for economic prosperity in the first place. And this is still the better party of the two. When I hear they have lost touch with their base, I don't think their base is really their base anymore at all and it's just that their constituents haven't realized it yet. I for one am no longer a proud Republican. I was, though. I was. I even have a blue and red striped elephant keychain. But the Republican party is no longer the Republican Party, the same as with the Democratic Party and what's really happening is the country is becoming more liberal. I for one am going to switch to another party because the Republican party is a crock of s- and doesn't give a rat's ass about this country's integrity or it's citizens, just about its pockets JUST like the Democratic party but only in a different way. I have labeled the Democratic party as the icon of sin and epitome of destruction many times in my earlier days on this forum which was seemingly true until the Republican party reared its true ugly face and had convinced me they're just as bad but in different things. The third largest party is the constitution party which I'm thinking of joining but I'm not sure yet. I'm waiting on some literature etc. But what I'm basically saying is F- the Democratic Party and F- the Republican Party.

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JP5..............You don't get it. I realize the problem has been around for a long time, I also realize that the Dems are just as responsible as the repubs are on the issue of illegal immigration but for different reasons.

The title of this thread is "GOP out of touch with their base." I was pointing out why I thought the "GOP was out of touch with their base" on the immigration issue. Sheeesh!

Always trying to protect your party. You're #1 partisan.