Thread: Feelings about Ethnic Diversity?

Originally Posted by TopCat

You sound like Anthony Blair, who stated the other week that the "European Integration Project" (if that language doesn't give away the true agenda then nothing will) was going to go ahead, "like it or not".

In other words stuff the working class and the majority, who have never been enamored with this multi-culti Star Trek global government / one world fantasy and the other modish left wing beliefs of the day. Totalitarian mentality in a nutshell.

Edit: You come from Wales. How "diverse" is your area I wonder? It's just that I see a large number of ultra militant Scots, Welsh and Irish on here (I don't think I've ever met a Scot who wasn't a raving mad Marxist) who promote mass immigration and "diversity" and yet I have the sneaky suspicion that none of them live in areas which are even remotely "enriched".

Well, fair play, two hits there. Bliar is no admiration of mine, and we do suffer from incredible levels of immigration - there is one of our constituencies where the majority are foreigners, mainly from Lancashire. Nevertheless, the general point does stand: capitalism will get a cheap workforce where it can (though it will also set up the mobs to attack them in one of its inevitable slumps) and poor people - like all our ancestors - will move to where they can get a better living. What's more, as in the Rhondda where I come from, a mixed population is manifestly superior in most ways, as was ours to any other in the UK until the capitalists destroyed it. Grin and bear it!

Sorry - double post caused by impatience with snail-system.

Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland

I prefer being around other people of my same ethnicity, and would not enjoy it if everyone else around me was from a different ethnicity.
It is both their physical appearance and the cultural differences. I also question how much of these "cultural" differences are truely cultural, and whether they are ever going to go away once the newcomers fully "assimilate". (there may likely be some genetic influence on behaviour and personality)

I am concerned that my ethnicity may become a minority in our country within a relatively short period of time, and think that our descendents will not be the happiest living as a minority. These will be people they will have to interact with everyday in school and work.

So my question is: Am I the only one that prefers being around my same ethnicity? Or do most people not have any problem with this?

I don't care what ethnicity or race someone is. I care about a person's attitude towards this country, what future they have in mind for their country. If I lived in a nation of blacks or hispanics who held my same values---I'd be a happy camper.

I really have a hard time with people that assume minorities have to think a certain way. I've met too many that I share too much with to boil it all down to the color of skin.

When one entrenched ethnicity insists on holding ecconomic and social power toward no other end than to hold that power, there will always be racial and cultural tension. Yugoslavia is a good example of that. The Serbs decided that they would have to be the ones to set the tone for the entire nation.

The only difference between a Serb and a Croat or a Bosnian is religion. They all speak Serbo-Croation, although the Serbs insist on writing it in Cyrilic script.

How well did that work out?

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

Cultural diversity is another thing, but like ethnic diversity, is entirely fine and not open to restriction in a free society.

Nope, this is true only to some limited degree. Certain cultural elements may be considered harmful or even illegal by the dominant culture, and rightly so. Cultural diversity describes not only harmless kebabs, but can also range from higher crime or unemployment rate to things like female genital mutilation, religious extremism and a whole way of life sometimes incompatible with others.

So, contrary to ethnic diversity, one can certainly be justifiably opposed to some aspects of cultural diversity, as it is a completely different matter. There is no reason why cultural diversity or culture in general should be made into any kind of a holy cow.

When one entrenched political insists on holding ecconomic and social power toward no other end than to hold that power and reap the financial benefits thereof, there will always be racial and cultural tension. Democrats are the example in the U.S.

Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland

I prefer being around other people of my same ethnicity, and would not enjoy it if everyone else around me was from a different ethnicity.
It is both their physical appearance and the cultural differences. I also question how much of these "cultural" differences are truely cultural, and whether they are ever going to go away once the newcomers fully "assimilate". (there may likely be some genetic influence on behaviour and personality)

I am concerned that my ethnicity may become a minority in our country within a relatively short period of time, and think that our descendents will not be the happiest living as a minority. These will be people they will have to interact with everyday in school and work.

So my question is: Am I the only one that prefers being around my same ethnicity? Or do most people not have any problem with this?

LOL. Any dude would go after a good looking girl regardless of skin color if he was single and she was game. Some even if they weren't single. Racism is like homophobia, exist primarily in men and is directed primarily at men. A pride thing.

Originally Posted by CKW

I don't care what ethnicity or race someone is. I care about a person's attitude towards this country, what future they have in mind for their country. If I lived in a nation of blacks or hispanics who held my same values---I'd be a happy camper.

I really have a hard time with people that assume minorities have to think a certain way. I've met too many that I share too much with to boil it all down to the color of skin.

Cool. You can live in South Africa then. Becareful though, the blacks there are murdering white people on a genocidal level, so watch your back.

Originally Posted by Blasphemer

Nope, this is true only to some limited degree. Certain cultural elements may be considered harmful or even illegal by the dominant culture, and rightly so. Cultural diversity describes not only harmless kebabs, but can also range from higher crime or unemployment rate to things like female genital mutilation, religious extremism and a whole way of life sometimes incompatible with others.

The difference here is how one defines culture. I'm using the word as relative to personal preference. So genital mutilation, religious fundamentalism and other insanities are fine as long it in thew sphere of one individual over their own mind and body.

Originally Posted by Blasphemer

So, contrary to ethnic diversity, one can certainly be justifiably opposed to some aspects of cultural diversity, as it is a completely different matter. There is no reason why cultural diversity or culture in general should be made into any kind of a holy cow.

As I say, I used the two descriptions in relation to personal choices and preferences. Social policies or laws are another matter, but its rather obvious that in order to have cultural diversity one requires one codified form of law, else cultural diversity could not exist, if that makes sense.

I agree with what you have said, the thing is I was making a slightly different point.

Originally Posted by PatrickT

When one entrenched political insists on holding ecconomic and social power toward no other end than to hold that power and reap the financial benefits thereof, there will always be racial and cultural tension. Democrats are the example in the U.S.

Democrats arent the only ones, that's for sure, nor are all Democrats valid examples. In fact your mention of Democrats so vaguely is more insightful of your ignorance and prejudice than the validity of your point.