Thread: Tax loophole abused by illegal aliens costs billions...

Originally Posted by jrsutton

I just read this today. Quote: " Illegals are receiving more than $ 4 billion of taxpayer funded refunds
by taking advantage of The Child Tax Care Credit. This needs to be addressed by Congres Immediatly."
It would not hurt if you called your congresman and senators and demanded that they do something about
this. jrsutton

That's what this thread is about. I have already informed my reps about my disgust with this.

Originally Posted by onalandline

Quit diverting. Corporations and individuals, even yourself, use legitimatete avenues in the tax code to reduce your tax burden.

Illegals are not even entitled to any loopholes.

There's a difference.

Ahahaha....illegals are not even entitled to any loopholes. Are you reading what you write? Those who happen to be illegal are entitled...no REQUIRED...to pay taxes but hypocritically they are not entitled to find the odd loophole as the rest of the more righteous and special taxpayers are.

Excuse me, I feel queasy.

Originally Posted by Viv

Ahahaha....illegals are not even entitled to any loopholes. Are you reading what you write? Those who happen to be illegal are entitled...no REQUIRED...to pay taxes but hypocritically they are not entitled to find the odd loophole as the rest of the more righteous and special taxpayers are.

Excuse me, I feel queasy.

Illegals are NOT entitled. Where do you get that they are? Excuse me, I feel even more queasy.

Originally Posted by onalandline

Illegals are NOT entitled. Where do you get that they are? Excuse me, I feel even more queasy.

Quote from your OP

...even those who are working here illegally – must report income and pay taxes. Of course, undocumented workers are not supposed to have a social security number. So for them to pay taxes, the IRS created what's called an ITIN, an individual taxpayer identification number. A 9-digit ITIN number issued by the IRS provides both resident and nonresident aliens with a unique identification number that allows them to file tax returns.

...they are required to pay taxes. If they are require to pay taxes, why should they be excluded from claiming tax rebates like everyone else who pays taxes?

And...finding big gaping loopholes, exactly as your rich do.

Originally Posted by onalandline

That's what this thread is about. I have already informed my reps about my disgust with this.

I'm glad to hear you contacted your reps. That will do more good than all the dialog. ONALiNE also
got the point. Illegal aliens use our system to get money because Bush Jr., Obama and Congress
allow it to continue. Americans needs to stay in touch with thier congressman and senators and hold
them accountable. That is what I do. They do not like to be told they are letting Americans down.

jrsutton

Originally Posted by Viv

Quote from your OP



...they are required to pay taxes. If they are require to pay taxes, why should they be excluded from claiming tax rebates like everyone else who pays taxes?

And...finding big gaping loopholes, exactly as your rich do.

They are illegally here. The federal government is admittedly involve in this criminal circle.

The rich, just like everyone else in the U.S. can use whatever loopholes they can in the U.S. tax code. If the government wishes for that to stop, then they have to revise the code.

Originally Posted by jrsutton

I'm glad to hear you contacted your reps. That will do more good than all the dialog. ONALiNE also
got the point. Illegal aliens use our system to get money because Bush Jr., Obama and Congress
allow it to continue. Americans needs to stay in touch with thier congressman and senators and hold
them accountable. That is what I do. They do not like to be told they are letting Americans down.

jrsutton

One correction with your post: Bush Junior is no longer in control.

Originally Posted by Viv

Quote from your OP



...they are required to pay taxes. If they are require to pay taxes, why should they be excluded from claiming tax rebates like everyone else who pays taxes?

And...finding big gaping loopholes, exactly as your rich do.

Excellent quote, but I think I found a better one:

· In 2010, the IRS owed undocumented workers more in claimed additional child tax credits than it collected from those workers in taxes.

What do you know, apparently they got their tax refunded. All of it. I'm all for closing tax loopholes for the rich, but if you want to try to continue this argument, you must not have read the OP well.

Shame on Obama and Congress...

Inspector General: IRS Management Discouraged Employees from Discovering Illegal Alien Tax Fraud:

The Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration released a report last week indicating that Internal Revenue Service (IRS) managers discouraged their employees from detecting illegal alien tax fraud. (Fox News, Aug. 9, 2012)

The latest Treasury Inspector General report legitimizes years of employee complaints about deficiencies in the Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) application review and verification process. Although illegal aliens are unauthorized to work in the U.S., they are required to comply with federal tax laws. As a result, the IRS grants illegal aliens ITINs to allow them to file tax returns.

However, the report reveals that IRS management “has not established adequate internal controls to detect and prevent the assignment of an ITIN to individuals submitting questionable applications.” (See TIGTA Report 2012-42-081 at p. 6, July 16, 2012) According to the Inspector General's findings, IRS management has:

Created an environment which discourages tax examiners responsible for reviewing ITIN applications from identifying questionable applications;

•Eliminated successful processes used to identify questionable ITIN application fraud patterns and schemes; and

•Established processes and procedures that are inadequate to verify each applicant's identity and foreign status. (Id.)

In particular, the report notes that IRS management cares more about quickly processing ITIN applications than ensuring it grants ITINs to only qualifying individuals. The report reads, “The lack of emphasis on identifying questionable applications is demonstrated by the processing time periods set for tax examiner review of the applications, the lack of extensive training on identifying questionable applications, and the criteria tax examiners are required to follow when identifying an application as questionable.” (Id. at p. 6) Even more telling of the IRS' unwillingness to stop fraud, the report notes that even if criteria and training were adequate, IRS protocol makes it unrealistic to expect employees to be able to identify fraudulent applications because the IRS accepts mere copies of supporting documentation rather than requiring the original document or a certified copy. (Id. at p. 7) The report concludes that as a result of such policies, the IRS ends up assigning ITINs to individuals with fraudulent applications — primarily illegal aliens — which enables them to commit tax fraud.

Alarmingly, the IRS has known of such tax fraud for at least a decade, following a September 2002 report revealing that illegal aliens had been using ITINs to collect the Additional Child Tax Credit (ACTC). Under the ACTC, illegal aliens can receive tax refunds even if they did not pay any taxes themselves. Because of this, the Inspector General said, “it is essential that the IRS have adequate processes and procedures that ensure only qualified and eligible individuals are assigned an ITIN.” (Id.)

Nonetheless, cases of illegal aliens committing ACTC fraud are rampant. Earlier this year, an investigation by an Indianapolis news station uncovered that illegal aliens working unlawfully in the U.S. were claiming the tax credit for minor relatives — primarily nieces and nephews — living outside of the country, in Mexico. The Indianapolis reporter also spoke with an illegal alien who revealed that multiple illegal aliens had been scamming taxpayers by using the same address to claim the ACTC for 20 minors, when in fact only one child actually lived at the given address. His explanation: “If the opportunity is there and they [the government] can give it to me, why not take advantage of it?” (NBC wthr.com, July 5, 2012)

Moreover, the Inspector General released a report last year showing that illegal aliens received an astounding $4.2 billion in taxpayer dollars by claiming the ACTC in 2010. (See TIGTA Report 2011-41-061, July 7, 2011; see also FAIR Legislative Update, Sept. 6, 2011)Although several Members of Congress have introduced bills to eliminate the ability of illegal aliens to receive this tax credit by requiring a valid social security number, Congressional leadership refuses to act.

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Originally Posted by Trinnity

I think it's outrageous.
Illegals getting refunds fraudulently....how many jobs lost and how many billions before we take this problem seriously???

My God, people this is YOUR money these illegals are taking. Do something!!
Call your Congressman. Call your Senator.

I'll be calling mine TODAY.

We've got to cut this crap OUT !!!

They can have some of my hard-earned money. They're people with children and I don't begrudge them in the least.