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It doesn't matter in which State a person resides, illegal immigration effects all of us equally.

I live in Tennessee and this place is crawling with wetbacks. One of the reasons is that TN had been issuing drivers licenses to illegals. Fortunately, they stopped doing that. But it's too late, I don't see any of the illegals leaving and the crime rate here has soared since they started flooding in. These people are criminals and need to be removed from our society.

The only acceptable solution is to round them all up, ship them back, build a fence and guard it with machine gun weilding military personnel with orders to shoot.

Problem solved.
Absolutely. I had not thought of it that way, but those methods would restore peace, law and order.
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It doesn't matter in which State a person resides, illegal immigration effects all of us equally.
I would think that people living in San Diego and Los Angeles would be more effected by illegal immigration than those living in Maine or Alaska. It's a simple matter of geography.

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I live in Tennessee and this place is crawling with wetbacks.
It's also apparently crawling with ignorant rednecks and racism.

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One of the reasons is that TN had been issuing drivers licenses to illegals. Fortunately, they stopped doing that. But it's too late, I don't see any of the illegals leaving and the crime rate here has soared since they started flooding in. These people are criminals and need to be removed from our society.
Yes, because that is what immigrants want from our country. They want to brave the deserts and border patrol to make it to this amazing country for our drivers' licenses. They have cars in Mexico, they don't need to come here to drive. I doubt that illegal immigration skyrocketed in TN because they could suddenly get drivers' licenses.

These people are here because they want to share in the land of opportunity. They come here to work their asses off and earn an opportunity for their children to lead a better life. Most of them could be very well off if they stayed in Mexico, where poverty is rampant. They would live relatively comfortably in Mexico were the value of a peso is less than 1/10 of a dollar, but they come here to suffer for their children.

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The only acceptable solution is to round them all up, ship them back, build a fence and guard it with machine gun weilding military personnel with orders to shoot.

Problem solved.
Murder is never a solution. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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Murder is never a solution. You should be ashamed of yourself.
People like that are seldom ashamed. They don't regard "wetbacks" as humans. A bit like the racists of old. If it's not human, what's wrong with shooting it?
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White people made this country what it was - the most powerful nation in the world. Most of the west had great nation-states that took turns at being the greatest power on earth.... all went to hell when racial diversity set in.

We need national diversity - from the west like Germany, Great Britain, France, Australia, Belgian, Spain, Italy, etc. We need nothing from countries outside the west.
You know when the Italians, Germans and Irish especially came to this country they faced the same racism and hatred that you are expressing towards Mexican immigrants. Yet somehow these immigrants are acceptable to you now. What makes this new group of scapegoats different? All groups start of poor and oppressed, but eventually (usually when another group replaces them as the new immigrants) they are forgiven of their sins and welcomed into society as productive members of society.

Also, the Roman empire collapsed because it grew to large and it could not support itself or defend it's own borders, and not because of cultural diversity; especially because the Romans did not allow cultural diversity in their society. They forced those that they conquered to adopt their religion and traditions. So much for cultural diversity. In the end the Romans met their fate from barbarian tribes all attacking the weakened defenses at once.

As for the Egyptians, they rarely attempted to immerse themselves in conquered territories' culture. Rather, they much proffered to enslave the conquered, keeping them in separate slave towns and not allowing them to even fraternize with Egyptians. The fall of their empire came when the Romans conquered them, not from social diversity.

The Persians however, did allow the conquered territories to keep their same religion and culture. The Persians used this opportunities to borrow good philosophies and technologies from these cultures that they did not suppress, to further maintain their empire. If anything, the cultural diversity in Persia allowed it to be the only Empire to predate the first great republic in Greece and outlast the Roman Empire. It was finally defeated by the a simultaneous conflict with Muslim armies and the Byzantine Empire in 650 AD.

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I don't know any Nazis.

The reason non-whites come here is because they do not have what it takes to create a productive society in their own country and they want what we have produced. Sure, it would be fine with them for us to feel so sorry for them that we cheat ourselves and our children out of our place in our Society and hand it over to them. How dysfunctional are Americans supposed to be?

We did not make Mexico poor and we are not obligated to making their lives nice for them. No one helped us! In this world you make your own way or you do without out. It is as simple as that. Every group, every species is responsible for itself. If your heart is oozing with pity for them go to Mexico or whatever toilet-hole those people are from and spend your life breaking your back for them. Leave the rest of us alone! No one, has the right to force the citizens of this country to prostrate ourselves on the ground for your bleeding heart lunacy.
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Question: Are mandated school tests in English anti-immigrant?

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Mandated tests taken in the US are all in English.. is this anti-immigrant, considering the large population of immigrants we have crossing the border from Mexico? Should these tests be offered in spanish as well?
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People like that are seldom ashamed. They don't regard "wetbacks" as humans. A bit like the racists of old. If it's not human, what's wrong with shooting it?
What race are wetbacks?
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I would think that people living in San Diego and Los Angeles would be more effected by illegal immigration than those living in Maine or Alaska. It's a simple matter of geography.
Yes, wetbacks have no reason to migrate out of California. All illegals reside in San Diego and Los Angeles.

Got it.

Here's the breakdown if you are interested in some facts....for a change.

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/peo...nts-per-capita

Estimated number of Illegal Immigrants (per capita) by state
#1 California: 6.114 per 100 people
#2 Arizona: 4.765 per 100 people
#3 Texas: 4.554 per 100 people
#4 Nevada: 4.183 per 100 people
#5 Illinois: 3.385 per 100 people
#6 Colorado: 3.087 per 100 people
#7 Utah: 2.632 per 100 people
#8 New York: 2.54 per 100 people
#9 New Jersey: 2.535 per 100 people
#10 Georgia: 2.513 per 100 people
#11 Oregon: 2.472 per 100 people
#12 North Carolina: 2.372 per 100 people
#13 Washington: 2.163 per 100 people
#14 New Mexico: 2.022 per 100 people
#15 Florida: 1.894 per 100 people
#16 Kansas: 1.712 per 100 people
#17 Rhode Island: 1.487 per 100 people
#18 Nebraska: 1.365 per 100 people
#19 Virginia: 1.361 per 100 people
#20 Massachusetts: 1.36 per 100 people
#21 Idaho: 1.33 per 100 people
#22 Oklahoma: 1.297 per 100 people
#23 District of Columbia: 1.272 per 100 people
#24 Delaware: 1.186 per 100 people
#25 Minnesota: 1.169 per 100 people
#26 Connecticut: 1.111 per 100 people
#27 Maryland: 1 per 100 people
#28 Arkansas: 0.972 per 100 people
#29 South Carolina: 0.846 per 100 people
#30 Iowa: 0.809 per 100 people
#31 Tennessee: 0.771 per 100 people
#32 Alaska: 0.753 per 100 people
#33 Wisconsin: 0.741 per 100 people
#34 Indiana: 0.717 per 100 people
#35 Michigan: 0.692 per 100 people
#36 Alabama: 0.527 per 100 people
#37 Pennsylvania: 0.394 per 100 people
#38 Missouri: 0.379 per 100 people
#39 Kentucky: 0.359 per 100 people
#40 Ohio: 0.349 per 100 people
#41 Mississippi: 0.274 per 100 people
#42 Hawaii: 0.157 per 100 people
#43 Louisiana: 0.111 per 100 people


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It's also apparently crawling with ignorant rednecks and racism.
To which race do wetbacks belong?


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Yes, because that is what immigrants want from our country. They want to brave the deserts and border patrol to make it to this amazing country for our drivers' licenses.
No, they want to come into our amazing country to steal from us, commit murders, join gangs, sell drugs, do drugs, take advantage of our free health care system, our free education system and revel in the fact that liberal idiots are more than happy to help them succeed in their nefarious endeavors.

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They have cars in Mexico,
The US has 5 times as many automobiles per capita than Mexico. What's your point?

http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ohim/onh00/bar4.htm


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they don't need to come here to drive.
They need to come here to be able to afford a car!!!!!


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I doubt that illegal immigration skyrocketed in TN because they could suddenly get drivers' licenses.
Fortunately, Tennessee no longer allows wetbacks to procure a drivers license.



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These people are here because they want to share in the land of opportunity.
They are here for many reasons, including free hand outs and criminal aspirations.

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They come here to work their asses off and earn an opportunity for their children to lead a better life.
Some of them do, yes.

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Most of them could be very well off if they stayed in Mexico,
Then why did they leave Mexico?

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They would live relatively comfortably in Mexico were the value of a peso is less than 1/10 of a dollar, but they come here to suffer for their children.
Oh man, now you're just making stuff up!!!!


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Murder is never a solution.
It would solve the problem of wetbacks illegally invading our country.

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You should be ashamed of yourself.
Nope, I am never ashamed of being right.

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Yes, wetbacks have no reason to migrate out of California. All illegals reside in San Diego and Los Angeles.

Got it.

Here's the breakdown if you are interested in some facts....for a change.

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/peo...nts-per-capita

Estimated number of Illegal Immigrants (per capita) by state
#1 California: 6.114 per 100 people
#2 Arizona: 4.765 per 100 people
#3 Texas: 4.554 per 100 people
#4 Nevada: 4.183 per 100 people
#14 New Mexico: 2.022 per 100 people

#31 Tennessee: 0.771 per 100 people
Wow, thanks for proving my point. Yes you have difinitively shown that borders states have more illegal immigrants than others. You've also shown that I have a better understanding of the impact of immigrants because I live in California (#1) and you live in Tennessee (#31). Obviously, immigrants have made a larger impact in my state than in yours. Did you think that this would support your point or are you just stupid?


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To which race do wetbacks belong?
"Wetback" is a derogatory term for Mexican immigrants. Based on the rest of your post, you seem to understand this.

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No, they want to come into our amazing country to steal from us, commit murders, join gangs, sell drugs, do drugs, take advantage of our free health care system, our free education system and revel in the fact that liberal idiots are more than happy to help them succeed in their nefarious endeavors.
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A February 1997 report on rape and sexual-based crime published by the United States Department of Justice stated that of the crimes surveyed, 56% of arrestees were "White", 42% were "Black", and 2% were of other races. The report additionally noted that "[v]ictims of rape were about evenly divided between whites and blacks; in about 88% of forcible rapes, the victim and offender were of the same race."[4]

A subsequent United States Department of Justice report which surveyed homicide statistics between 1974 and 2004 stated that of the crimes surveyed, 52.1% of the offenders were Black, 45.9% were White, and 2% were Other Races. Of the victims in those same crimes, 51% were White, 46.9% were Black, and 2.1% were Other Races. The report further noted that, "most murders are intraracial", with 86% of White murders committed by Whites, and 94% of Black murders committed by Blacks
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The US has 5 times as many automobiles per capita than Mexico. What's your point?

http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ohim/onh00/bar4.htm
In America, many families have more than one cars. In Mexico, they share the family car. They also allow people to drive at 14. (unofficially at 12). Just because Americans have more cars, doesn't mean that Mexicans are unable to drive a car.

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They need to come here to be able to afford a car!!!!!
Have you ever seen the conditions that an immigrant lives in; let alone an illegal immigrant? Many of them work for less than minimum wage because they are being taken advantage of by their employers. If you ever drive by your local strawberry field or whatever, you would probably see about 100 workers in the field and about 20 cars. Most of the time, they cannot afford cars.

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Fortunately, Tennessee no longer allows wetbacks to procure a drivers license.
What race do "wetbacks" belong to?

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They are here for many reasons, including free hand outs and criminal aspirations.
Illegal immigrants do not recieve free hand-outs like welfare because they are not registered. The only government programs they can use is the Emergency Room in the event of a life-threatening situation and their children are allowed to go to school.

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Then why did they leave Mexico?
To escape a corrupt government and give their children a better life.

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Oh man, now you're just making stuff up!!!!
Please forgive me. Here is my correction:

1 U.S. dollar = 10.7969207 Mexican pesos

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It would solve the problem of wetbacks illegally invading our country.
Nuking Tennessee (and other states like it) would solve our problem of ignorant rednecks.

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Nope, I am never ashamed of being right.
You should be ashamed of advocating the murder of another human being.



Kinda makes me proud to be an American.
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Wow, thanks for proving my point. Yes you have difinitively shown that borders states have more illegal immigrants than others. You've also shown that I have a better understanding of the impact of immigrants because I live in California (#1) and you live in Tennessee (#31). Obviously, immigrants have made a larger impact in my state than in yours. Did you think that this would support your point or are you just stupid?
I never said that border states don't have the highest percentage of wetbacks, go back and reread my post. I also said that illegal immigration is a problem for ALL US citizens regardless of what state they reside in. Apparently you are illiterate as well as pompous. Funny how you skipped #5 through #13 but included #14 [New Mexico] on your list. Thanks for proving my point.

#5 Illinois: 3.385 per 100 people
#6 Colorado: 3.087 per 100 people
#7 Utah: 2.632 per 100 people
#8 New York: 2.54 per 100 people
#9 New Jersey: 2.535 per 100 people
#10 Georgia: 2.513 per 100 people
#11 Oregon: 2.472 per 100 people
#12 North Carolina: 2.372 per 100 people
#13 Washington: 2.163 per 100 people



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"Wetback" is a derogatory term for Mexican immigrants. Based on the rest of your post, you seem to understand this.
Wrong again, cupcake. Wetback is a term for illegal Mexicans



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