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Old 04-27-2008, 01:54 AM
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how does the land of the free express its gratitude for mexicos land? they make it illegal for them to step foot in it. lol
The Mexican-American War began in 1846 and formally ended with the signing of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo in 1848. Under the treaty, México ceded most of what is presently the American Southwest, including the present day states of New Mexico and California, to the United States for $15 million (Adjusted according to the CPI = $326,666,666).

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The Mexican War between the United States and Mexico began with a Mexican attack on American troops along the southern border of Texas on Apr. 25, 1846. Fighting ended when U.S. Gen. Winfield Scott occupied Mexico City on Sept. 14, 1847; a few months later a peace treaty was signed Feb. 2, 1848 at Guadalupe Hidalgo. In addition to recognizing the U.S. annexation of Texas defeated Mexico ceded California and , New Mexico (including all the present-day states of the Southwest) to the United States.
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Mexico's territorial Governor encouraged American ranchers to settle in Texas in order to increase trade between the countries, that is until Mexico City saw an opportunity to tax, when the ranchers refused the Mexican Army attacked.

Taylor took his 5000 men against Santa Ana's Army of 20,000 strong and shoved them back to Mexico City in 14 months. Sorry, start a war and get your behind kicked, well that's just the way it goes. We didn't have to give them squat, but we gave them over a quarter Billion dollars (today's money) for the land and they complain it's still theirs?
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no, the ones who kicked behind complain that its theirs. mexicans arent complaining, theyre just crossing over. and theres really nothing you can do about it, lol.
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and theres really nothing you can do about it, lol.
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Surge in Immigration Laws Around U.S.

By JULIA PRESTON
Published: August 6, 2007

State legislatures, grappling with the failure of the federal government to overhaul the immigration laws, considered 1,404 immigration measures this year and enacted 170 of them, an unprecedented surge in state-level lawmaking on the issue, according to a report by the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Spurred by rising resentment in the country over illegal immigration state legislators nationwide adopted measures to curb employment of unauthorized immigrants and to make it more difficult for them to obtain state identification documents like driver’s licenses.

Every state debated immigration issues, and 41 states adopted immigration laws. A large number of new laws cracked down on employers who hire illegal immigrants. The broadest measure was passed in Arizona and signed into law by Gov. Janet Napolitano, a Democrat, in July. Arizona employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants face suspension of their business license for the first offense and the permanent loss of their license for a second offense within three years. The law requires employers to verify the status of job applicants with a federal immigration database known as Basic Pilot.

“The message loud and clear from our constituents was their frustration that the federal government has not taken the necessary action to secure the border,” Timothy S. Bee, a Republican who is the president of the Arizona Senate, said in a telephone interview yesterday.

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yes, i think. you will never be able to keep them all out.
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yes, i think. you will never be able to keep them all out.
I do tend to agree with you. But, most will stay away without the prospect of any work. Maybe then they will grow some gonads and collectively kick their most corrupt government into the ocean.

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Mexico's oil production:

2.268 million bbl/day (2004)

Production has slowed so even if they were exporting 1.5 million barrels a day:

1,500,000 X $100 a barrel = $150,000,000 a day.

$150,000,000 X 30 = $4,500,000,000 a month.

$4,500,000,000 X 12 = $54,000,000,000 a year.

Petróleos Mexicanos (PEMEX) is Mexico's state-owned petroleum company. It is the 10th largest oil company in the world in terms of Revenue and 34th place out of the Fortune 500 companies.

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Since all the oil revenues go to the Government, where's the money go?
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well, theyll always have work here. cheap labor is hard to turn away.

itd be great if mexicans could fix their country. i agree.
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Arizona slams door on illegal immigrants

By Nicholas Riccardi, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
April 5, 2008

PHOENIX -- As it has become the favorite entry point for undocumented migrants trying to sneak into the United States, Arizona has become a laboratory for whether a state can single-handedly combat illegal immigration.

In recent years it has barred illegal immigrants from receiving government services, from winning punitive damages in lawsuits and from posting bail for serious crimes. A new state law shuts down businesses that hire illegal workers. And the sheriff of Maricopa County, which includes Phoenix and three-fifths of the state's population, dispatches his deputies and volunteer "posses" to search for illegal street vendors or immigrants being smuggled through the county.

"What I love about what Arizona is doing is we don't have to rely on the federal government," said state Rep. Russell Pearce, a Mesa Republican who has authored most of the toughest measures. "It has truly woken up the rest of America that states can fix that problem."

The campaign has had an effect: Illegal immigrants complain it's impossible to find good work and are leaving the state.

But enough immigrants have left that the government of Sonora, the Mexican state bordering Arizona, has complained about how many people have arrived on its doorstep.

Pearce says the overall effect has been undeniably positive for Arizona. "Smaller class sizes, shorter emergency room waits," he said. "Even if [illegal immigrants] are paying taxes -- and most of them aren't -- the cost to taxpayers is huge."

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State laws can be quite effective as evidenced by Arizona's success. As more states follow suit, and they will, the down turn in the economy and the loss of property tax revenue will force that hand, more states will follow suit.

In California 44 state senators and assembly people are termed out, many of them the worst of the worst of the socialists. These would including Fabian Nunez, "One Bill" Gil Cedillo (Famous for introducing one bill each year, driver's licenses for illegals), Don "If you don't like illegal immigration your a cracker" Perata, and far to many to mention here. Thank you California for sending Proposition 93 down in flames. They may block, temporarily, Assemblyman Bob Huff's Illegal Immigration Reform Package, but when they're gone......

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AJR 44 – A bill circulating in Congress would repeal the section of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution allowing for birthright citizenship. This federal policy has resulted in citizenship for babies born in the United States to foreign visitors, and illegal immigrants. This lax policy has served to attract illegal immigrants looking for an easy way to claim state and federal benefits without going through the legal citizenship process. AJR 44 will urge Congress to pass that bill, and stop ignoring the crime of illegal immigration.

AB 2418 – This bill will deny bail to any illegal immigrant that has been charged with a gang-related crime or a violent felony. AB 2418 will ensure that illegal immigrant criminals receive the punishment they deserve for crimes committed and stop them from jumping bail to flee to their home country to avoid prosecution.

AB 2420 – San Francisco and Los Angeles have declared themselves “sanctuary cities,” prohibiting their local authorities from cooperating with federal immigration officials. AB 2420 will stop local entities and authorities from establishing themselves as “sanctuary cities,” eliminating conflicting governmental policies.

AB 2421 – Due to the federal government’s inability and ineffectiveness to enforce immigration laws at the state level, AB 2421 outlines a business license revocation process for employers who hire illegal immigrants within California.

AB 2422 – This bill will require that local authorities report juveniles who have been charged with a violent felony to Immigration and Customs Enforcement, to ensure the dangerous juvenile is deported back to their home country. While it is difficult to find and deport illegal immigrants, those who commit violent felonies should be swiftly deported.

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Well, seeings as it was advertised as a march for ILLEGALS, it is a safe bet to assume that a majority of them were illegal. But what are the cops going to do? Pull each one of them for a green card?

A quick google search will answer most of your questions before you even have to post.

I think that it's time to start using profiling as a very useful tool to purge illegal aliens out of the general hispanic population. Legal hispanics have also forfeited the right to act indignant over being asked to show proof of their legality. Legal hispanics allow illegals to live and move freely amongst themselves in the hispanic community. The legal hispanics pretty much know who the illegals are and where the illegals live, but legal hispanics almost never turn the illegals in. This is all per my legal Mexican American son in law. Because we have the 20 to 30 million illegal alien, mostly Mexican, invaders crisis, ICE should be allowed to go into an area of suspected illegal aliens and ask for proof of citizenship from everyone who looks hispanic just because they look....hispanic.

The open border pro illegal lobbyists have long argued that breaking in illegally and violating the sovereignty of the US by illegals is no worse than a mere 'speeding ticket'. So, in the same vein, profiling all hispanics "just" because they allow illegals to live freely amongst them, is likewise, no worse that a 'speeding ticket'.
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Consumers could be warned, but U.S government isn't talking

By Bob Sullivan
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Updated: 12:22 p.m. ET Jan. 29, 2005

Linda Trevino, who lives in a Chicago suburb, applied for a job last year at a local Target department store, and was denied. The reason? She already worked there -- or rather, her Social Security number already worked there.

Follow-up investigation revealed the same Social Security number had been used to obtain work at 37 other employers, mostly by illegal immigrants trying to satisfy government requirements to get a job.

Trevino is hardly alone. MSNBC.com research and government reports suggest hundreds of thousands of American citizens are in the same spot -- unknowingly lending their identity to illegal immigrants so they can work. And while several government agencies and private corporations sometimes know whose Social Security numbers are being ripped off, they won't notify the victims. That is, until they come after the victims for back taxes or unpaid loans owed by the imposter.

An undocumented immigrant worker managed to use Steve Millet's Social Security number for more than 10 years before the incident was discovered. Millet said the imposter managed to obtain a dozen credit cards, buy a car, and even a house using the stolen number and his own name. All the while, that imposter paid taxes, paid into Social Security, and took out loans using the stolen Social Security Number. All of those agencies had a record of the abused SSN; none bothered to tell Steve Millet.

"You can't find out except by accident," Melody Millet said. "They are not required to notify us. No one is required to notify you. The way it sits now, our lives were ruined. We will never have again a normal financial life.

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Identity theft, tax fraud, forged documents, perjury. Those are the laws broken by Illegals working regular jobs, unless they are day laborers working for cash, which is still income tax fraud.
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Congress will make the difference. If your tired of doing without to pay the extra taxes for illegals who shouldn't be here in the first place. Tired of seeing your kids held back in school while waiting for the illegals kids to catch up from the poor education down south of the border. Tired of waiting up to 8 hours in the emergency room while illegals use it as a free clinic. Go to the website below and click on your state. You will see where the reps and senators from your state stands on immigration. Not what they say, but a score compiled from the way they actually voted. Congress won't do the right thing on their own. They need to hear from us!

http://grades.betterimmigration.com/
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