Universal Mandatory E-Verification - Page 7

Jim Crow · #61 (**permalink**) 08-06-2008, 03:42 PM

That's why we need to stress this on our politicians to help this come through and make them leave on their own feet. Or car. Or whatever. Making E-verification mandatory just seems to make sense. Protects the people and protects job interests. Among other things.

Professor Peabody · #62 (**permalink**) 08-06-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lita456

I only support the group that has done nothing wrong.
http://media.www.kykernel.com/media/...-3106527.shtml

There really isn't anything wrong with giving the people I support a chance is there??

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1. Identity Theft and Assumption Deterrence Act of 1998
P.L. 105-318
Enacted H.R. 4151, October 30, 1998
112 Sat. 3007, codified at 18 U.S.C § 1028

* The Identity Theft and Assumption Deterrence Act of 1998 was the first piece of federal legislation to deal directly with identity theft. The term “means of identification" is described as a person’s u{"name, social security number, date of birth, official State or government issued driver's license or identification number, alien registration number, government passport number, employer or taxpayer identification number."} (18 U.S.C. § 1028(d)(7)). The U.S. Sentencing Commission is directed to incorporate the crime of ID theft into the United States Sentencing Guidelines Manual (United States Sentencing Commission, Identity Theft: Final Report)

http://www.llrx.com/features/idtheft...es%20governing

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION REFORM AND IMMIGRANT RESPONSIBILITY ACT 1996 (IIRIRA-96)

Section 215. Criminal Penalty for False Claim to Citizenship.

It is unlawful for any person to: (1) make a false claim to U.S. citizenship or nationality for the purpose of obtaining, for him or herself or any other person, any federal benefit or service or employment in the U.S.; and (2) make a false claim to U.S. citizenship to vote or register to vote in any federal, state, or local election.

http://www.takatalaw.com/us/iract96.html

§ 7206. Fraud and false statements [Income Tax W-2 and Returns]

Any person who—

(1) Declaration under penalties of perjury - Willfully makes and subscribes any return, statement, or other document, which contains or is verified by a written declaration that it is made under the penalties of perjury, and which he does not believe to be true and correct as to every material matter;

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/26...6----000-.html

§ 7207. Fraudulent [tax] returns, statements, or other documents

Any person who willfully delivers or discloses to the Secretary any list, return, account, statement, or other document, known by him to be fraudulent or to be false as to any material matter, shall be fined not more than $10,000 ($50,000 in the case of a corporation), or imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both. Any person required pursuant to section 6047 (b), section 6104(d), or subsection (i) or (j) of section 527 to furnish any information to the Secretary or any other person who willfully furnishes to the Secretary or such other person any information known by him to be fraudulent or to be false as to any material matter shall be fined not more than $10,000 ($50,000 in the case of a corporation), or imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/26...7----000-.html

§ 7205. Fraudulent withholding exemption certificate or failure to supply information

(a) Withholding on wages
Any individual required to supply information to his employer under section 3402 who willfully supplies false or fraudulent information, or who willfully fails to supply information thereunder which would require an increase in the tax to be withheld under section 3402, shall, in addition to any other penalty provided by law, upon conviction thereof, be fined not more than $1,000, or imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/26...5----000-.html

Did nothing wrong?

Wolf X · #63 (**permalink**) 08-12-2008, 09:25 PM

What I don't under stand is why everyone is making a big deal about "illegal immigration"? That term didn't even exist up until about 50 years ago. What is so different between then and now. Historically speaking we have seen the same pattern with the Chinese, the Irish, the Russians, and any other mass movement of people into the United States. In all the episodes the only two factors was education and time. Over time each of these groups was incorporated into the United States just like the illegal immigrants will now. The only variable is the amount of education that the group receives (which requires a lot of overhaul but that is another discussion).

And to point out, I don't see rest of America scrambling over each other to work for McDonald's or picking fruit in the field.

IWANTANOOMPALOOMPA · #64 (**permalink**) 08-13-2008, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolf X

What I don't under stand is why everyone is making a big deal about "illegal immigration"? That term didn't even exist up until about 50 years ago. What is so different between then and now. Historically speaking we have seen the same pattern with the Chinese, the Irish, the Russians, and any other mass movement of people into the United States. In all the episodes the only two factors was education and time. Over time each of these groups was incorporated into the United States just like the illegal immigrants will now. The only variable is the amount of education that the group receives (which requires a lot of overhaul but that is another discussion).

And to point out, I don't see rest of America scrambling over each other to work for McDonald's or picking fruit in the field.

It is a lot worse now than 50 years ago.

It doesn't matter if anyone wants to work at MD or on a farm, it is not an excuse to let these illegals stay. They do not belong here, and are breaking the law by staying. Go home and start the legal process to get here.

Clay · #65 (**permalink**) 08-13-2008, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolf X

What I don't under stand is why everyone is making a big deal about "illegal immigration"?

And to point out, I don't see rest of America scrambling over each other to work for McDonald's or picking fruit in the field.

The real point is that these illegal Mexican scabs cost the American taxpayers far more than what the so called cheap illegal subsidized labor provides in lucrative profits to scumbag employers of illegals, from fraudulently obtained social services, overcrowding hospital ERs, overcrowding our schools and ruining the quality of education for American students, incarceration of criminal illegals, etc. The one that disgusts me the most is the Democratic politicians trying desperately to amnesty the illegals in order to gain a permanent voting majority, even if it subverts the voting process and ruins the country.

Professor Peabody · #66 (**permalink**) 08-13-2008, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolf X

What I don't under stand is why everyone is making a big deal about "illegal immigration"? That term didn't even exist up until about 50 years ago. What is so different between then and now. Historically speaking we have seen the same pattern with the Chinese, the Irish, the Russians, and any other mass movement of people into the United States. In all the episodes the only two factors was education and time. Over time each of these groups was incorporated into the United States just like the illegal immigrants will now. The only variable is the amount of education that the group receives (which requires a lot of overhaul but that is another discussion).

And to point out, I don't see rest of America scrambling over each other to work for McDonald's or picking fruit in the field.

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http://immigrationcounters.com/

Data source page: http://immigrationcounters.com/datasource.html

Illegal Immigrants in Country: 20,106,234

OTM Illegals In Country: 504,106

Money Wired to Mexico Since Jan 2006: $20,014,000

Money Wired to Latin America Since 2001: $213,749,999,000 (Average 30 Billion dollars a year.)

Cost of Social Services for Illegal Immigrants Since 1996: $46,580,000,000

Children of Illegals in Public Schools: 2,250,665 (currently)

Cost of Illegals in K-12 Since 1996: $12,955,000,000

$30 Billion dollars a year made here but being wired out of the country is 30 billion dollars that will never be re-spent within out economy. Never mind trickle down, call this a gaping hole in the dyke.

You like paying taxes don't ya?

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