Originally Posted by Clay

The 14th amendment must start being interpreted like it was always meant to be. Children born to parents who are both illegal aliens must not become automatic citizens. Just common sense. If the mother of the child is a US citizen, even though the father is illegal, I could go along with letting the child be an automatic US citizen. If the father of the child is a citizen and the mother is illegal, no way does the child get to become an automatic citizen.

To put it bluntly, there would be too many illegal hispanic women running around trying to get knocked up by an American citizen, while American women are far more responsible enough to not get knocked up by an illegal.

Originally Posted by lita456

There may be some that abuse the system, but many already have a family and only want to live here peacefully, with their families, working and obeying laws.

Do you have a link that shows american women are far more responsible enough to not get knocked up vs. an illegal hispanic?

JMOO

Originally Posted by onalandline

American women are citizens. Illegals don't belong here. What is your point in the question?

Originally Posted by lita456

There may be some that abuse the system, but many already have a family and only want to live here peacefully, with their families, working and obeying laws.

Do you have a link that shows american women are far more responsible enough to not get knocked up vs. an illegal hispanic?

JMOO

Originally Posted by Clay

You really need a link for something so obvious? But I think we better go back to requiring BOTH parents to be legal before a baby is an automatic citizen. That would cut out all of the gray areas.

Originally Posted by lita456

Did you ever hear of "birth tourism"? Many women from all over the world are coming here to have babies.


In May 2002 the LAT reported on the phenomonon of "birth tourism": foreigners traveling to the U.S. specifically to have children. Those children would then automatically be declared U.S. citizens and could receive benefits and wouldn't be subjected to the home country's rules. And, once they reach 18, those citizens could then sponsor the whole family to come here as immigrants.

Obviously it's a scam and an attempt by people around the world to take advantage of us, but, since many of those people are non-white, "liberals" reflexively jump to defend this scam.

http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/004389.html

Originally Posted by Professor Peabody

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Originally Posted by Makedde
This has been discussed before, and I disagree.
If the child is born in the US, that child is a US citizen, whether the mother is illegal or not.

That's pretty funny coming from someone surrounded on all sides by vast expanses of water.


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I was born in Australia. Am I an Australian citizen?

Whether you are an Australian citizen by birth depends on the date of your birth.

People born in Australia on or after 20 August 1986 become Australian citizens by birth if at least one parent is an Australian citizen or a permanent resident at the time of the person’s birth.

A child born in Australia to parents who are not permanent residents or Australian citizens acquires Australian citizenship automatically on his or her 10th birthday provided the child is ordinarily resident in Australia. Children born in Australia to foreign diplomats do not acquire Australian citizenship.

http://www.citizenship.gov.au/automa...z-by-birth.htm

Did you forget about this?

Originally Posted by lita456

Exactly what it says. Are American women more responsible enough to not get knocked up vs illegal hispanic women? There are many illegal immigrant women who do use birth control for pete sakes.

Originally Posted by Clay

Absolutely. You've outlined a big part of the anchor baby abuse industry. Giving birth while on a tourist visa. Others just cross the Mexican border after the first sign of giving birth and rush to the nearest hospital. That's total abuse and has got to stop sooner or later. The problem with getting the 14th amendment changed so that both parents of a child born in the US have to be American citizens before a child gets automatic citizenship is that DEMOCRATIC politicians look upon anchor babies as future Democratic voters. Democratic politicians always block any attempt to change the 14th amendment.

Originally Posted by onalandline

I don't know and I don't care. It doesn't matter. One group, the illegal hispanics don't belong here, and the other group American women do belong here.