The problem with illegal immigrants is not that they are here using our resources. The problem is that they are using our resources without contributing anything... read on at Illegal Immigrants, Problems and Solutions and tell me what you guys think about the issue.

Making them leave is fine, but making them contribute works just as well. I say we work on both.

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If there was anytime to have illegals out of country, its now. We don't need people feeding off our govt illegally now, and Americans might actually take these jobs that we never would taken before. Bush was horrible on the border. Obama is going to make them citizens, so we have less jobs. Great.

I've never understood how illlegal immigrants makes anyone a legal immigrant. Its that simple.

That is false. Immigrants pay sales taxes, gasoline taxes, and possibly property taxes. Some may use social security numbers to work in the formal economy and would thus also pay income taxes.

I think that introuduction extremely free market economy system is the best way to solve promlems with unprofitable immigrants and another citizens who exploit social economes.

Benefits are only magnets, which pull lazy immigrants.

Drago said that nowadays is the last time to introduce changes which could stop those tends - it is truth of course.

Such a tiny percentage compared to what they consume. Let's not forget the $35 Billion dollars they earn here and send home draining capital from our country and adding it to theirs. That is money that IS NOT spent here.

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This is untrue and the amount of money they send to their families would be the same whether they were legal or illegal so it is a moot argument.

Illegal aliens spend a huge amount in taxation and those that deny it are simply lying. It can be argued that illegal aliens actually spend more in taxes than legal aliens and don't receive nearly the same benefits from those taxes. Remember, between their contribution and the employer contribution they are responsible for over 15% of their earnings being paid to the US government in FICA taxes alone and they receive no benefits from this taxation. When they rent an apartment their rent pays the property taxes for schools. When they pay sales tax the States benefit. When they buy a product they pay the embedded taxes on that product. Like everyone in America they work for about 4 months out of every year just to pay for taxes.

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I've had my SSN hijacked and reported on by an apple picker. I've never picked apples for a living.

Are you saying they get authentic SSN or just use random numbers to screw some poor soul that picked apples for a living....

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Party before country, explain yourself, sir! <-- Wow.

If they are illegal aliens, they are illegal. They don't have an actual social security number, they don't file taxes, and they bring in crime. We have no way to track them at all this way. They are here illegally, they shouldn't be here no matter what. There is absolutly no room for debate here. We are in a time that anyone can launch a massive terrorist attack on our soil. We don't need loose borders. We are in an economic crunch, we don't need anyone that is illegal receiving state medical benefits from states that can't make budget. Come here legally, I have no problem, thats what America is all about, but illegally just doesn't make any sense how it can be defended.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html Here is how President Eisenhower handled illegal immagrants. I say bring back Operation Wetback, crack down, Hard on the people hiring Illegals and the companys that supply the immigrant labour force.

The Chinese developed great anti-immigration technology over a thousand years ago. The put up a big-ass wall. It actually worked. The problem was the enemy figured out how to bribe the gate keepers. So we need a big-ass wall without gates.

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