US Jobless Claims Rise 'More than Expected' This Week, Up By 24,000 to 399,000 Read

Good for you. You can check the numbers and see that 169 million people filed NEW unemployment claims under Reagan and it averaged over 400k per week.

And then maybe you won't be falsely accusing others as lying.

If that matters to you at all.

 

And I'd Guess, not claim, that obama's new unemployment claims exceed 600,000 per week. 500,000 per week without a doubt.

And b.o. the smelly one, has a net loss of jobs in his failed time in office. While in the same amount of time under much more adverse conditions, Reagan had a net gain in jobs. Do you dispute that?

And if I accused loony liberals of lying 100% of the time, I'd be correct about 99.5% of the time. That will keep one in the clean up hitter spot.

I'm not perfect, never claimed to be, but I'm light years better than irrational illogical liberals.

 

No, they've been below 400k most of the past several weeks.

And contrary to the implications conservatives made in this thread, that's not too bad. It's better than Reagan's average.

No, but that was only because the economy was tanking when he took office.

Since his programs had a chance to fully work, we've had a net gain of 3.3 million jobs.

Do you dispute that?

Reagan took office when the economy was booming with GDP growing at a 7+% real rate.

Do you dispute that?

Obama created far more jobs in his second and third years than Reagan did.

Do you dispute that?

Your claim is bogus and you cannot prove it.

Do you dispute that?

Your claim is bogus and you cannot prove it.

Do you dispute that?

 

Yes you did Try comparing first 3 years of Reagan to Obama and use unemployment percent

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/277656/obama-reagan-no-comparison-david-winston

 

Again you are comparing 8 years to 3 years

 

More liberal bull(*)(*)(*)(*) and excuses.

obama's new unemployment claims exceed 5 or 600,000 per week. Not last week, ALL WEEKS. You excusers of the worst president in history are ridiculous in your utter nonsense.

All you can do is make excuses for the failure that is the idiot clown b.o.

His first week in office his new unemployment claims, THAT HE INHERITED, were 0.00463 percent of the labor force.

Reagan's first week, THAT HE INHERITED, from the second worst president Carter, was 0.00598 percent of the labor force. OR 29% worse than what b.o. inherited. Reagan turned it around using policies very similar to what b.o.'s Simpson-Bowles commission recommended obama do. b.o. trashed that report for ideologically dogmatic reasons.

Reagan succeeded and helped the nation. b.o. is an abject failure that has hurt the nation here and internationally and IS the most divisive scum ever to hold public office, from his Illinois legislature to today.

Without whiny, pee your pants excuses,,,,,,,,,,,,WHAT IS THE JOB COUNT.

b.o. more new unemployment claims per week average, FEWER jobs, A NET MINUS!.

Do you dispute that?

 

Please link to my post you are talking about.

If you're not just making crap up again.

 

Please link to my post you are talking about.

If you're not just making crap up again.

 

So, why not simply solve for a natural rate of unemployment and have less than one percent unemployment, by simply bearing true witness to our own laws.

I would be happy to vote down party lines, for party than be that moral, if not that holy.

 

I see. Feel free to prove you're not spouting bull(*)(*)(*)(*) again by identifying which fact I stated you claim is wrong.

Or do you plan to just skip to the part where you just claim I am lying again?

Don't you ever wonder if just for a minute, maybe your bitter, angry obsessive views about Obama may be wrong given the fact you're so (*)(*)(*)(*)ing wrong about facts all the time?

I'm guessing not.


The Labor Department reported Thursday that 377,000 people filed for initial unemployment benefits in the week ended Jan. 21

http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/26/news/economy/unemployment_benefits/index.htm

In the week ending January 14, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 352,000

http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2012/01/weekly-initial-unemployment-claims_19.html


Initial weekly unemployment claims for the week ending on January 7th, 2012 were 399,000

http://www.economicpopulist.org/content/initial-unemployment-claims-were-399000-january-7th-2012

In the week ending December 31, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 372,000

http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2012/01/weekly-initial-unemployment-claims.html

 

The one where you show 8 years of Reagan

 

You look at your posts. You are trying to avoid what you are doing as usual

 

How did you reach your conclusion regarding any unemployment numbers, for comparison and contrast?

 

Don't even bother wasting yer time with an unrepentant Liberal.
Like debating with Rachel Maddow.Purely futile.She drank the Kool-aid
and saw stars.However her stars are Like an alcoholics pink elephants.
Maddow wouldn't recognize fact from fiction if some Hot butch walked
up to her and Butch-slapped.And she liked it.

 

What is most interesting is that when the highly manipulated numbers were released earlier this month we had four threads in two days from the Owebama cheer leaders....

But when the truth emerges, the libs are either hiding or baiting.

I doubt anyone relishes anyone being unemployed and to blindly make that claim is as disingenuous as the numbers released by the White House. It is truly pitiful when that is the only defense for the tragedy perpetrated on the American people by an incompetent and lazy president.

One trillion dollars wasted is not something to cheer...it is gross mismanagement.

 

ONCE AGAIN, people with jobs when b.o. took office, 133,886,830
people with jobs on 12/31/2011 [35 months later] 126,188,733.

Difference 7,698,097 fewer people with jobs after 35 months of obama's incredibly stupid and wasteful policies.

People with jobs when Reagan took office, 87,092,635.
people with jobs on 12/29/1984 [35 months later] 87,971,170.

Difference 878,535 MORE people with jobs after 35 months of Reagan's effective policies.
(see post #374 to see how much better RR did in his 4th year that b.o. couldn't even dream of matching in the rest of his entire lifetime)

It is your link. If it is accurate to prove me wrong about the number of NEw unemployment claims under Reagan, then it has to be accepted as accurate on the number of jobs FOUND under Reagan's wise policies compared to the number of jobs LOST under b.o. abject stupidity and complete failure.

Yes, I thoroughly detest the totally incompetent obama. He constantly says something will happen and then he does not follow up on that statement and it does not happen OR the opposite happens. He has run up more dollars of national debt than any other president in any 3 year period under the guise of helping the economy and "creating" jobs.
YOUR LINK shows he completely FAILED at "creating" jobs with a MINUS SEVEN MILLION, SIX HUNDRED AND NINETY-EIGHT THOUSAND, NINETY-SEVEN JOBS LOST due to his incompetence and lies. Meanwhile he has accumulated $4.6 TRILLION in new national debt in only 3 years. Spends MORE, accomplishes LESS than any previous president.

Yes I detest obama and all liberals that are causing wholesale damage to MY country.

The stupid ass you support is a failure and deserves scorn from every American citizen. Only fools could be continually swindled by this ruthless con artist.

 

This site could eaily turn into a Obama-friendly fact Checker.
They already have Media Matters and DailyKos and Huffington
and NEWSWEEK,TIME and then the New York Times and L.A.Times
and Washington Post for that.Plus the New Yorker and possibly
Vanity Fair.The Nation and Southern Poverty Law Center.
John Podesta and his bunch.All the Obama Czars and their clandestine
covert Unamerican front groups like Van Jones and Cass Sustein.
That is merely a tip of the iceberg example of what actual nefarious
citizens who live and breath in this land are willing to sell this
country out at the drop of a hat can and are doing.

 

Right and all those jobs were lost in the first few months he was in office and from mostly Republican government employee cuts and since Jan 2010 3.3 million new private sector jobs have been added.

All fascinating, but irrelevant to the initial unemployment claims number you were totally wrong about, falsely called me a liar about several times, and still have not apologized for doing so, because you sir, are no man of honor.

And now you've been proved wrong, once again, on your claim "obama's new unemployment claims exceed 5 or 600,000 per week."

And where are the facts you claimed I was wrong about? You claimed I was spouting liberal bull(*)(*)(*)(*), and you cannot cite one fact where I was wrong? LOL

You're batting 0-3 so far in just this thread alone.

And you claim liberals like me are wrong 99.5% of the time and how you are "light years better than irrational illogical liberals."

I laugh at silliness of your baseless, hollow bragging and boasts, as would anyone else how has read this thread.

You've repeatedly shown your ignorance and lack of knowledge in this thread alone and other posts.

A common characteristic of those with the obsessive hatred of Obama as you have shown.

 

Since it's us liberals who are drinking the kool aid and not you conservatives, maybe you can cite to the post where I compared 3 years of Obama with 8 years of Reagan as your colleague claimed. He couldn't do it. But since you are siding with him, you prove it.

Just to prove it's not you whose drinking the kool aid fiction here.

Unless you're just flat out lying. Again.

 

An awfull lot of Old Timers filed Gold Claims and never as much
ate any better than beans.
Since when are your claims Golden.
Don't forget that Goose who laid the golden egg ... also.

 

There's no need to go into numbers comparison.Numbers can be
exploited/manipulated.In fact too easily.Why should anyone trust
numbers when they can and ARE Revised all the time.Now explain
that.The need to REVISE.Because more data was brought in or the
original Data was inaccurate.
Either way ... it isn't dependable.Like the actual words of a president.
" Tear down this Wall " had more force and impact than a million
bullets.As an example.

 

While there were zero net job gains for the month of August, 2011, the U.S. economy shredded an average of 400,000 jobs lost for 14 consecutive weeks in 2011. President Obama's economic policies are primarily to blame for the dismal 1.7% in Real GDP growth in fiscal year 2011.

President Obama: Blame we can believe in..

 

I'm not easily impressed by numbers like some.
Take polling for ex.Every other day,according to the polls
a different Republican Candidate seems to take over 1st and
particularly 2nd place.Now how can that be.
Voters don't change their minds every few days.Yet that is
what the polls reflect.As an ex.

 

I appreciate your attempt to at least refer to data, which is a couple levels above what we get from most of or conservative friends.

But you data is out of data. The August data was revised upwards, in the 50-100k range I believe. Please it was only zero because of all the state and local government jobs that have been terminated.

I agree that the ~400k range we say in 2011 was not optimal. But Reagan averaged over 400k while he was president. Are you therefore going to concede Reagan's policies sucked to? Or is it you just have double standards for Obama?

1.7% growth isn't the greatest, but it's a (*)(*)(*)(*) site better than the -9% real rate we had when Obama took office.

 

Zero ... Schmearbama actually believes he can somehow magically
get the Unemployment number down to around 8% or maybe 7.9%.
Again ... Pure Saul Alinsky.To acquire POWER by any means necessary
as taught by Frank Nitti.By Lying,cheating or stealing.
" the ends justify the means ".