US Jobless Claims Rise 'More than Expected' This Week, Up By 24,000 to 399,000 Read

Good for you.

I'm not easily impressed by baseless blather.

Maybe other are.

 

I feel a revision coming on.A revising of a New Day with a new President.
How about them numbers.
Like how Ironic it would be If Obama did manage to manipulate and
stroke numbers and then got caught trying to steal an election.

 

In the words of Ronald Reagan: "There you go again"
In fiscal year 2010, the economy expanded in Real GDP growth by 3.0%
In fiscal year 2011, the economy produced a gloomy 1.7% in Real GDP growth. Once again, we can place sole blame on President Obama economic policies for his failure to stimulate substantial job growth comparing fiscal years 2010 to 2011.

 

I should have known better than to trust your "facts" given the record you have of being wrong over and over.

Total employment:

Jan 2009 142187
Dec 2011 140790

http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cpsatab1.htm

I don't know where you get your numbers, I'd be interested to see the source, but it's not even closed to 7.7 million.

And *all* that decrease came in the first few months of office where Obama inherited a tanking economy before he passed his policies and it turned around.

Jan 2010 138500
Dec 2011 140790

Up 2.4 million since Jan 2010, and closer to 3 million if you take out the government jobs that have been cut.

Based on the ignorance and factually false beliefs you constantly demonstrate, as this thread once again shows, IMO it is pretty clear you're the one whose been continually swindled by this ruthless con artists.

 

Feel free to identify the claim I made you think is wrong.

Unless your just making baseless nonsense commentary.

And that equals 2.45%, which is higher than the average for the last president the Republicans put in power.

When Obama took office, the economy was tanking at a -9% real rate, losing 700,000+ jobs a month, unemployment was skyrocketing upward, and the stock markets were crashing in the worst recession in 80 years. The housing market was destroyed and we were headed straight for a depression.

But now the economy has been growing steadily for more than two years, the private sector has created jobs every month for almost two years, stock markets are up about 95% from their recession lows, and the unemployment rate has fallen from above 10% to 8.5%, and about 3.3 million private sector jobs have been added since Jan 2010.

I will accept your position "we can place sole blame on President Obama economic policies" for this remarkable turnaround.

 

Any less ironic than if the manipulation and distortion of Fox News propaganda stole the election?

 

Basing a President or a Presidency on sheer numbers is foolhardy.
Character is the most important asset/trait.
Obama wasn't elected on either numbers { he hadn't any except
a high number of " present " as a State Senator and Liberal Nay votes
as a freshman U.S. Senator} or traits such as character as he wasn't
vetted in the least.
You are playing the numbers game.As if numbers make the Man/President.
If that was so,how come I never heard a peep about Abe Lincoln's
numbers.

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Because Fox is EVIL ... eh.? The Boogeyman.
Like in - Candyman -.

Candyman
Candyman
Candyman !!!

 

Left Wing DNC talking points aside, in 1983, Ronald Reagan's economic policies provided substantial economic breakthrough in fiscal years 1983 and 1984. Ronald Reagan's economy grew at a 4.5% pace in 1983 and a remarkable 7.2 percent in 1984. In 2011, President Obama's economic polices produced 3.0% Real GDP growth. In 2012, President Obama's flawed economic policies provided a sluggish 1.7% in Real GDP growth. President Obama, the worst President in U.S. history will never achieve the superlative economic success "The Great Communicator" accomplished comparing fiscal years 1983, 1984 to Obama's fiscal years 2011, 2012. While President Obama continues make absurd claims that the economy is getting stronger, a fabrication of the truth, the stats indicate that President Obama is nothing more than a habitual liar. Jimmy Carter, the 2nd worst President in U.S. history inherited a 7.7 nation wide unemployment rate and his economy is outperforming President's Obama's.

1977-1980 Jimmy Carter, Democrat +3.25% (Average GDP growth )

 

Post 345 you use 8 years of Reagan.

 

There you go again. Reagan's 8 years to Obama's 3 years

 

You once again will not face facts

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth

 

You once again use fuzzy math. In 2011 it is down from 2010. Another words the economy is slowing. To many regulations from Obama and the EPA

 

Good work Redrum.


Good to see you here

 

Same thing in here to many who have blown apart his own lies about his claims to back up his arguments with facts.

When he loses he either attacks you personally or changes the argument to something different. Its a common tactic of the defeated.

 

The truth is it was economists from the Obama administration that said unemployment would not go up over 8% if we used the stimulus. So yes it was the Obama administration that said it. You were actually correct because it was Obama's administration that said it.

 

Well the EXACT numbers came from the site you linked to prove that Reagan had 169,000,000 new unemployment claims.

IF you wish to continue to use YOUR OWN site as proof of the New unemployment claims. Then you MUST also accept their numbers of jobs lost under to incompetent, wasteful, failed policies of obama. And that number is: 7,698,097 fewer people with jobs after 35 months of obama's incredibly stupid and wasteful policies. If you NOW dispute the site, YOU USED, as inaccurate, then please link to an accurate site to prove Reagan had 165M or 169M new unemployment claims in his 8 years.

And your BLS site your also linked above shows obama with a net loss of jobs after 3 years and Reagan with a net gain of jobs after the same time period in office. Reagan's was marked by a greater percentage of the workforce filing new unemployment claims in the beginning and a far lessor number after 3 years. Also Reagan's highest rate of unemployment was 10.8% compared to obama's 10.3% and Reagan had the additional problems of high interest rates and high inflation rates. So the weakling obama faced less unemployment, lower interest and lower inflation and spent more than 3 times as much money to end up with a 1.8% GDP and a net loss of jobs.

The numbers are at:

http://ows.doleta.gov/unemploy/wkclaims/report.asp

YOUR CHOSEN WEBSITE

01/24/2009 workforce [far right column ] 133,886,830
12/31/2011 workforce 126,188,733

You do the math.

THAT IS FAILURE.

Look it up in the dictionary, b.o.'s portrait is there.

Discounting you loony liberal claims is like changing a baby's diaper. Smells bad but its easy to do.

 

I would rate that as post of the year!

It is so typical of the lying liberal lip servers on the other side to be biased and selective in their posting of statistics. On behalf of a majority of members of this forum who are weary of the constant barrage of falsehoods to protect an incompetent, arrogant, lazy, dishonest and self serving Owebama and his wasteful ways I thank you for exposing this on-going fraud.


It reminds me though, that some weeks ago I made a simple error when listing Owebama's many lies. Despite having apologized and corrected that ,I was demonized, harassed and trolled for days. I had to apologize twice for a simple mistake.....

And you and I both know we will not see such integrity in this regard.


The only problem I have? Putting the likes of "The One" in the same post as Ronald Reagan is an insult to Reagan. This guy is not fit to shine Reagan's shoes.

 

Well, thank you for that. However the poster in question would not accept that as an explanation as my post had inferred Owebama had said those words. The poster was quite viral in his insistence, following me to posts on other topics, calling me liar and so forth

So, I apologized a second time just to end that harassment. I know that it is clearly against the rules....but it continued and continued anyway. So, it was nothing to apologize, we all make mistakes and true men, people of honor and integrity have no problem doing so.

 

You made no error, Obama Economic council made that forecast in the report they used to sell the stimulus. The head of that council who became head of the President's Economic Advisers later stated she regretted making that forecast. Some would rather turn the issue into one of whether a forecast is a prediction is a promise ad nausem in order to avoid the fact, that was their forecast. When asked recently if they over-promised or misjudged the situation he unequivocally said no.

 

His council spoke for him and the report was submitted on his behalf.

 

Liberals would use all the bandwidth of the Internet denying that, but it is fact. b.o.'s economic advisers said it and b.o. went along with it.

Liberal policy in short:

Its Bush's fault.

Tax the rich.

It's Fox's fault.

Spend more, but don't call it Stimulus.

It's Beck's fault.

Tax the rich.

It was worse then we "thought."

Spend more.

Barrack who?

Tax the rich.

The people are dumb!

Spend more.

Its the tea party's fault.

Tax the rich.

Conservative's are racist.

Spend more.

Give us time, we've only had control since 1/2007

Tax the rich.

The tea party is dangerous.

Spend more.

Its somebody else's fault.

Tax the rich.

Republican's just say no, its not our fault.

Spend more.

The tea party is racist.

 

Obama is responsible for what his administration officially releases

Here is where the Quote came from

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...chele-bachmann-says-white-house-promised-sti/

 

Um Hmmm. Weird. I was actually expecting unemployment to rise after the holidays. Then I saw this:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fiw-stock-market-20120119,0,2462756.story

What? Unemployment claims the lowest in four years. That's back up by that other Liberal Rag, the WSJ.
I own an employment agency (although it's rather "high-end") and we are doing better than we have since 2007. We're hiring two new people next month. We have more contracts than we can fill.

I think FOX has slanted this one a bit. I watch FOX and contrary to what our lovely Lib posters claim, don't think they lie - but just like MSNBC, they do slant. A LOT. I think this is one of those times.

 

Yet predictions are it will not be very much in 2012

http://www.kiplinger.com/businessresource/economic_outlook/