America Has The Richest Poor In The World

So...your retort is to illustrate another positive?

You brought it up; you should tell us what you think that means.

Who has to accept their own personal situation if they do not want it? They live in America, which gives them the opportunity to change it.

And not illegitimately simply vote for a politician who is willing to take it from people like me.

And if you have to offer red herrings in response, the unreasonable one is you.

 

This is another interesting point:

When you look at the numbers, Bush's recession was better than what Obama is calling a recovery.

 

Bottom line: Perpetually bolstering the wealth of the most wealthy... is not necessarily or always good for America.

There is enough evidence to see that is true, if one wishes to see it.

 

More on how the middle class is screwed.

 

Have you read my post on how the FED is propagating what you're speaking of?

Asked again.

 

I check back into this forum from time to time and sometimes like today a topic of such dumbness prompts me to chuckle at the nonsense of it all.

"american poor are the richest in the world"

Now to ignore the obvious ironey at the above statement. There is a striking realisation.

Which is this. The usa poor instead of securing themselves and protecting themselves within a country in out of control capitalism. Ie spending their hard earned dole money on the many forms of policies america offers including healthcare and other insurances. They spend it on large screen tvs and techy gadgets while in the process leaving themselves at the mercy within said country if they have problems. Now they can't afford to help themselves because all their hard earned dole money has been spent on new toasters and other such irrelevance.

So usa poor > biggest idiots in the world.

btw Mods, Has the racism been cleaned up on this site or still a free for all.

 

Here is more to consider.

 

So...if I understand you correctly...you're saying that the single biggest factor that causes the poor to remain poor is lack of personal responsibility and discipline?

 

Out of context failure.

 

I have to fully agree with the statement of the OP.

I have a question thought. How many in here have been to other countries? How many have seen what living conditions are like in another continent?

Probably few to none. I have, in several continents.

I have seen people living in tin shacks in the desert. I have seen people picking through trash to try and get something they can sell for food. And this was done often by families.

And no, I have never seen this in the US, other then the mentally challenged homeless. And I do not count them, because they are there of their own free will.

In the US, go and visit a Housing Project. I have many times, back when I did food delivery. And it always left me troubled.

Here you have people living in a Government Housing Project, who are ordering delivery pizza 3-4 times a week. I look in their homes, and see leather couches, big screen TVs, multiple game systems, and often with far newer cars then I had.

All this in a region where housing is easily available for $500 a month or less.

Our "poor" are horribly spoiled. And there are countless programs to get them out of poverty, if they really want to do that. But no, we are a nation of enablers. We pat them on the fanny, and give them more cheese and grants and tell them that things will get better. That it is not their fault they are poor, that "the system" abused them.

Meanwhile, the urge or desire to go out and make something of themselves has been totally destroyed. But they still have enough money to get Pizza delivered to their home on a regular basis.

I would love to see how some of them would react if kicked out of their nice AC apartments with runing water and food stamps, and told to grub for a living like those in the Third World. Where the main problem facing the poor is not obesity but malnutrition.

 

That is a rational responce although another topic in why poverty exists on a mass scale. To the subject at hand.

If i was poor in america with the usa attitude to anti socialist policies. It would be shooting ones self in the foot to spend all the money i had on useless techy gadgets. Now stuck relying on medicaid and other usa goverment half assed attempts.

Be easier moving to canada to enjoy the sunshine under the well funded social umbrella and with any extra money now can spend it on new toasters.

To add: I been to the usa multiple times back in the days my family had a holiday home in that country before they fell in love with spain. Visited dozens of states and i do remember the poverty i witnessed. In california, escondido the poor given old food from local supermarkets. New york the homeless problem which is just as bad as parts of London and texas. Which i always remember for the sheer balls of it. A dirty bastard outside the airport tried to steal my luggage. Although he could have been a taxi driver, still not sure but a eye opener to america. Beneath all the soundbites and feel good patroism it is the same as anywhere else.

 

You guys defend the most wealthy, yet pretend the system is just fine. It won't be corrected, until the whole house of cards falls down on the wealthy. That day is surely coming.

 

There is somebody I know. Single mom with son; no income, no child support... living totally off the system. Rent and utilities paid by the government. She walks up and down the streets collecting half-used cigarettes and cleaning the street- takes tips that no one gives her.

She is bare bones poor.

She has a pretty good life. She has it much better than a woman in Ethiopia.

I have to agree with the OP

 

Libs screw the middle class on a regualr basis.

Libs back unions which take away freedom of workers to work in non union shops and states. Also the unions take a portion of their wages and waste it on political campaigns the workers may not support

Libs screw over the middle class with theri energy policy which has seen the price of gas double since Obama has taken office while they have wasted BILLIONS on failed "green" energy programs. It is costing the average middle class family over a $1,000 year

Libs have screwed over the middle class with increasing the debt in record time and record amounts which will end up costing workers more in money, in jobs, and debt their kids will never be able to pay off

Need more examples on libs actually do screw over the people they claim to care about?

 

When your poor people are the only poor in the world suffering from obesity I think we can safely say we are more than reasonable.

 

Why comparing to ethopia? What is the point?

Like comparing yourself to a brain damaged coma patient and saying "yeah i got it better"

Use countries that are more your level. Norway, sweden even australia. There are a few new zealanders on this site, they enjoy a nice life.

 

FDR started America down the road of dependence. He set in motion the wheels of massive government programs that their sole purpose was to keep people on the government programs - thus signing up lifetime Dem voters

Dems NEVER want to see anyone get off a government program. They want them to stay on them so they can keep expanding the program (and the budget)

When anyone speaks out in opposition the Dems scream who you are heartless, meanspirited, uncaring, greedy, and want people to die in the streets

Of course Dems also never talk about the success of their anti-poverty programs. Dems have had over 40 years and spent over $9 trillion to end poverty in America and what do we have to show for it?

Besides a National debt of over $14 trillion and a credit downgrade?

 

Your right. We should compare our poor with every other country in the world. Well, his claim still holds true. Now what?

 

What is the point to this?

An american woman picking ciggerate "i was going to say (*)(*)(*) but this site proberly censors it" off the floor, has a better living condition than a person in ethopia?

Well that is nice!

Although better comparisons would be social saftey nets in foriegn countries, how they protect/compare their people vs your own.

 

If people want to see REAL poverty go to Viet Nam, Bangladesh, or parts of India

Here in the US, we do indeed have the richest poor in the world

 

None of the "labels" you can name are the total problem. The things which surely ail us today are the culmination of at least decades of political and economic policies which represent the entire political spectrum.

I mean yes, we can likely point out what each side has or hasn't done to exacerbate the problems we see in America, but surely reasonable people accept that it's not only "Liberals", "Conservatives", "Democrats", "Republicans"...etc.

My eyes look to the MONEY, and how it is programed to be reinvested (or not) into America itself. Now, as a Liberal I do point out and criticize Conservatives more... as I don't think the Conservative philosophies are superior to Progressive or Liberal philosophies... but those differences are worth threads of their own.

In any case, I could from the bottom of my heart assure anyone that I don't think we can blame today's problems on only ONE side. Still, I am (for enough good reasons) adamant about Liberalism being at least part of the answer to the solutions we see as a nation. And NO WAY will someone have me thinking that ONLY Conservatism (especially in its present incarnation) has the answers.

The middle class is indeed screwed-over significantly... and boosting the hyper-wealthy isn't going to help that; trickle-down theory has been tried FOR A VERY LONG TIME... and it is clear (finally) that it cannot be THE (sole or primary) answer.

 

Maybe this topic is the usa take on french surrealism.

"Richest poor in the world"

But they are still poor!

 

They are not poor!

Look at what they have. It is clear the "poor" have it pretty darn good in the US

 

Well, as the richest nation, we should well have the richest poor.

It's all relative and the poor here are the poor, here.

Poor is poor as in first nation status.

Third world poor is the poorest of the poor.

Thank God that we aren't that poor, either.

 

They are poor by a false definition of poor. If you get free food, free housing, free healthcare, electrical assistance, student financial aid, wic, and a slew of other welfare programs, you are not poor. Your lazy and if you can't pull yourself up with all those benefits you need to be sterilized. Our poor enjoy a better standard of living than the average middle class of Europe.