I believe in God , and here's why

The earliest traces back show that our ancestors worhsipped a goddess figure and male god figure. They represented different aspects of nature. Often there were multiple god and goddesses. The Indian Vedic gods and goddesses date back as far as 5500 B.C.E (or B.C.). That is about 5500 years before Christianity. The Greek Pantheon and Norse Pantheon was around long before Christianity also.

 

If you base your belief off of what a book says, what makes your religion any more valid or better than a religion like Scientology, Any of the Neo-Pagan beliefs, or Jedism?

 

I thought salvation was from the Jews?

 

Actually it is......According to the bible, everyone who goes to heaven is giving a new body.

 

ME ME ME! PICK ME! I WANNA LIVE FOR EVER! Heaven and hell sound like awful places! I want to live for ever. See the world. Watch humanity grow and evolve! It would be an amazing ride!

 

But why do you believe that?

 

Human history was way back than 5500 BC. The Indian is an ancient civilization, but not the oldest. This is a bad example. Middle East countries like Israel or Iran or Iraq are much older.

I don't think we should cut out the history before Christ came to earth from Christianity, because we don't cut the old testament from our Bible either.

Christianity should count as old as the Judaism.

 

You misunderstand what I said. God's original plan for us to stay on Earth, doesn't mean we can't travel the space and other planets.

 

Good, everybody should want to live forever. Come back to Jesus and you will have quality eternal life.

 

Israel was formed in 1948.

 

Or I could just talk the guys at IBM into putting my brain into a computer chip. In 80 years I'll bet they'd be closer to unlocking immortality than a 2000 year old dead guy. If Jesus could live forever he'd be alive.

 

God will destroy this plan, no matter how hard human to achieve immortality, they will not get it without him.

 

Yeah,,, if you can believe this,, wouldn't JC do more good alive than dead?

 

I think you prolly spelled imortality incorrectly , so before I reply , I'll allow you to clarify yourself .

well , with all respect , what in your view is salvation ?

 

Everything mankind has done has been without God. Including invent God.

All God has ever done is hold mankind's advancement back. Demonizing those who progress science forward.

 

"Hold mankind's advancement back" is absolutely correct. That ideology is even found in scripture:

"Gen 11:5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
Gen 11:6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people [is] one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
Gen 11:7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
Gen 11:8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
Gen 11:9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth. "

Mess with the bull and you get the horn. So Yes. God slowed them down and as a result of that procedure that God used, there is not a doubt that God did "hold mankind's advancement back." Oh Well.

 

Yes I corrected it here:

I did mean Immortality. Thank you Hillbilly.

 

Jesus is alive , Tao , he's never died , he just went home .

Jesus is alive and in the heart & soul of everyone , all you have to do for proof is to get your heart right with God , and get on your knees and pray an honest & sincere prayer of forgiveness , pray for a loved one , for a friend , or a neighbor , that's all it takes , and God will bless you with his grace & peace . You'll feel it , deep in your soul .

well Tao , I have never met a Godly man that has ever demonized those scientists & doctors that have invented the polio vacine , Jonas Salk himself came to God , as have many other brilliant scientists of any age , present or past . . I don't know what God thinks of nuclear power or global warming , of a microwave oven or toasters or satellite TV , or of electric cars or electric razors , but , it seems to me that if God didn't want us to discover / invent these things , we would not have them . .

RST , you are most welcome , my hard-headed friend . I'd never take a cheap shot at a friend . . . if the day ever comes when our technology can deliver immortality , me and you both will have been dead for many , many years . . so I'll just hang on to my Faith and John 3 : 16 .

 

No I'm pretty sure he's dead. People don't live to be 2000 years old.

Why in the world would you accept that as truth. It just completely boggles my mind. The entire world is out there. An entire universe to explore and limitless potential in technology. Why on Earth would you follow a belief that says we only get what some mystical being we can't see hear or feel says we can.

My life is amazing. I love it. I've got everything going for me in the right direction. But I don't thank God for it. God is worthless. He's some (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) in a book written thousands of years ago by men who wanted nothing more than to set a bunch of meaningless rules to follow. If God existed wouldn't someone like me...someone who thinks God is a fictional being; who thinks if he were real he'd make one childish (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)...get such a happy and fulfilling life?

Wouldn't God put all the best things in life in the hands of his followers?

 

Or do they?

 

All this time! How could we not see it! Joan Rivers is the holy virgin!

 

Joan Rivers is many things, but holy and/or virgin, that would take miracles.

 

I believe in God, but that's not why. I see too much of people saying to just believe in God and Jesus, without even scratching the surface of what it means. It's not fair. It's not fair to the believers whom they try to represent. It's not fair to the unbelievers who only want some reason as to why they or anyone should believe in something they've never seen. It's not fair to those who want to have faith, but don't know how to when their logical minds seem to contradict what they "should" believe.

 

No--there is a bodily resurrection AFTER the END of TIME. Eternity is not "immortality." The body dies and reintegrates with the matter of the earth. This is fact. What God does at the end of time is something different and a "new body" in a different plane of existence outside of time in eternity is not the same as "immortality"--it is "everlasting life."

Look at the etymology of "immortality" --"mort"--and you will see that in God's schema, the body does die due to the effects of sin.

 

Above I outlined what i meant concerning "immortality"--

Salvation is the redemption of the fallen nature of man. "Everlasting life" is not immortality. Man does die. Due to Christ's death and resurrection, we too can die and live again--but that is not "never dying" in the sense that the body never dies (which is what im MORT ality suggests).