Nationalization and Dictatorship

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  1. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    Who said that? Is that the voice in your head assuming conservatives think anything Bush did was okay? Your delusional.

    Obama does not require anyone else but himself to put this fascist plan into action. That's a dictatorship. Constitutional checks on power have been completely ignored.

    No. Thank you for showing how you'll gladly cut the nose off your own hyper partisan face because Obama is behind this fascism.

    You are a very obedient German. Say hi to your friends in the work camp for me.
     
  2. Radio Refugee

    Radio Refugee New Member

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    Good point. I want Obama to get the 3AM phone call. Screw the Constitution.
     
  3. rahl

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    can you define marxism, and provide specific examples that makes obama one?
     
  4. a777pilot

    a777pilot Well-Known Member

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    Those that have not passed a budget in over three years are the Senate Democrats. This is the only process they have open to ensure that this Fool, Bobo, the Post Turtle gets the money he needs to spend us into bankruptcy.

    I don't want this Fool or the Congressional Democrats to be anywhere near that 0300 phone call.
     
  5. a777pilot

    a777pilot Well-Known Member

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    Actually Bobo, the Post Turtle, is not a classical Marxist. He is more of an advocate of National Socialism, but not totally. He defies labeling, except for that narcissistic label. That he wears quite well.
     
  6. rstones199

    rstones199 Well-Known Member

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    In bold: Read the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing article I posted in Post #42 :roll:

    With your opening remark in this post, its clear you did not read the article. This makes the rest of the post worthless rhetoric. Good job :thumbsup:
     
  7. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    Yeah, I read what you posted and already dismissed it in my other post on this issue.
    Did you read that? It's post #45 if you are confused or forgetful.

    While this latest EO from Obama is indeed using similar orders from other presidents to build upon (as if that makes conscripted forced labor okay) what you are defending is Obama's right to be a clone of George Bush (whom you hate) and Reagan (ditto) in issuing to himself the authority to decide it's time to seize control of the nation's infrastructure (energy, food, water, transportation, conscripted labor, etc.) and revoke our constitution.

    So by this "morality" (though it's surely amoral) and non logic if Barry Obama suddenly decided to suspend Habeus Corpus laws, silence free speech and throw Germans, Japanese and Italians in concentration camps you wouldn't be alarmed because other presidents have done this all before.
    I'm surprised. Usually sheep don't have access to a computer keyboard.
     
  8. sweetdaddy620

    sweetdaddy620 New Member

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    Yeah not constant offense in its own populous

    And also not for constant foreign entanglements either

    COMMON DEFENSE PRETTY SIMPLE THO NOBODY CAN KEEP IT SIMPLE
     
  9. sweetdaddy620

    sweetdaddy620 New Member

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    I read you post about Bush 43 & socalled conservative

    Let me be perfectly clear Bush 43 terrible Potus from my Stances
    Obama makes bush look like a a 3rd grader

    Bush was an is no conservative,obama has done everything bush did
    and furthered it

    I don't like the 2 party tyranny of masters this country lives under
    too much power too much centralization

    The Anti Federalist warned of this and just look how long ago that was
     
  10. ronmatt

    ronmatt New Member

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    This is how the government provides for the common defense..from what? The government?
     
  11. rstones199

    rstones199 Well-Known Member

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    You are clearly here to throw ad homs and bash O-bum-ba because quite rankly, you don't have a clue as to what you are saying.

    Here:

    Bush (43) made two changes to this, yet you could careless. Clinton is the originator of the bill (more on this in a second), you could careless. But O-Bum-ba makes a change and you are up in arms about this. Go figure

    Further proof is this: Clinton was the originator of this. Bush (41) and Reagan HAD NOTHING TO DO with this act. Let me say this one more time: CLINTON WAS THE ORIGINATOR of this bill. Yet you claim that O-bum-ba wants to be Bush and Reagan clones. Please tell us how Reagan and Bush (41) are connected with this bill. I'll be waiting.

    You clearly have no idea what this executive order is, what the purpose is, the history of it, etc. You are just using this an attempt to bash O-bum-ba. Why don't you just start a thread called "I hate Obama" and get it over with. Atleast that is honorable.

    PS: I do not hate Reagan or Bush (41). :roll:
     
  12. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    If you knew half as much as you think you do you'd still know next to nothing about this issue.
    I've forgotten more about the sources of this E.O. than you could possibly ever know (which, considering who I'm talking about, is no big deal).

    Let me hit you with some knowledge (ala Dodgeball): The Defense Production Act (the model on which the Clinton and now Obama Executive Orders have built on) started under Harry Truman.
    "The Defense Production Act has been in effect since the Truman Administration, and authorizes the President to direct private business to allocate resources to national defense as needed in a time of national emergency." http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/no-its-not-martial-law-its-preparedness/
    You think this all originated with Bill Clinton? You have no idea!

    Why not actually read about this issue instead of shooting off your mouth?
    You might learn something. I don't agree with the premise of my link, but it is full of good information (don't worry...it's not catching and you probably will remain hopelessly ignorant of the issue).
     
  13. rstones199

    rstones199 Well-Known Member

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    Ofcourse you have :sleepy:

    From your own link:

    The one we are debating in this thread was started under Clinton, amended twice by Bush (43) and once by O-bum-ba. Unreal. You do know what 'superseded' means right? :no:

    With all due respect, your being to bore the hell out of me :bored:
     
  14. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    Wrong! And I've already documented how this whole process began with Harry Truman and his defense preparedness executive order.

    "It has been superseded a number of times, starting in 1951 by nearly every President through Bill Clinton, and amended twice by George W. Bush."

    How is it humanly possible for someone to post this and then claim that Bill Clinton is somehow the author of what Obama is updating when your own cited information tells us that nearly every president since '51 superseded Truman's original order.

    How in hell, in your frightening mind, does Bill Clinton get credit for an executive order that a whole string of presidents have superseded and added to? :no: duuuhhh....



    How ironic, considering.
     
  15. rstones199

    rstones199 Well-Known Member

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    “National Defense Resources Preparedness” executive order: Power grab or mere update?

    Im not sure how to explain something that should be so simple.

    I think you just like to argue over anything.
     
  16. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    rstones199 Well-Known Member

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    There is a difference between updating and rewriting. Your failure to understand this is NOT my problem.
     

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