National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Troianii, Aug 1, 2012.

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Would you support my proposal?

  1. Yes.

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  2. No.

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  3. I would support it, with some minor changes.

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  4. other.

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  1. leftlegmoderate

    leftlegmoderate New Member

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    Not all 18 y/o's are adults, some 30 y/o's are not adults. This is about damage control.

    The gun argument is a bit different. We have guns so that we can defend ourselves against aggressors whether they be foreign or domestic. We've clearly been granted this right, and we've also regulated this right... for good reason.
     
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    That's nonsense. I was totally responsible at 18. As were many others. I did no crime. What some others may have done was none of my concern.
     
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    Stop thinking in terms of black and white, in terms of principal. It's just alcohol for Christ sake. It's not like we're telling 18 y/o's they can only eat certain types of food and such. This is not tyranny, this is common sense.
     
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    Alcohol is extremely easy for underage children to get anyway. Making alcohol consumption legal for 18 year olds isn't going to cause some sort of spike in alcohol consumption that'll raise the crime rate. Plus, driving under the influence would be just as prevalent as it is now, and it's not like it would suddenly become more legal than before.
     
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    Are you trying to argue that there wouldn't be an increase in 18 y/o's legally buying, consuming, and making the mistakes associated with alcohol if they could?

    Toothpicks.... really?
     
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    And what, people aren't killed by drunk drivers over 21 every year?
     
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    It will be your concern once an irresponsible 18 year old affects you negatively. If you're okay with that... well, don't know what to say... other than stop thinking in terms of principal only.
     
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    Do you think their wouldn't be an increase of 18 year olds addding to the problem if they legally could? Is their right to drink alcohol worth negatively affecting others?
     
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    Just because it isn't a big deal for you, doesn't make it that way for others. A responsibly 20 year old should be able to have a bottle of wine with his fiance at a restaurant,for Gods sake. Most 18-20 year olds aren't perpetually drunk, irresponsible people.
     
  10. leftlegmoderate

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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    So your basing everything off assumptions, wow.
     
  12. leftlegmoderate

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    Again, he can wait to have his wine legally, it's not a big deal. If he's smart, he can just ask someone to buy it for him, then stay home and chill.
     
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    No, I'm basing things off of logic and personal experience... rather than some black and white argument based off of irresponsible principals.
     
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    He's an adult, he should be able to do as he wishes with his body.
     
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    At the potential expense of someone else's body... mangled in a car? Nope. He can wait a year.
     
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    Everyone has that potential, that's a ridiculous statement.
     
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    Irresponcible principals, huh?
    I guess they're better than hypocritical principals.
     
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    No...It's about collectivist thinking. It's about emphasizing the "the common good" over the constitutionally protected rights, liberties and accountability of individual adults. It's about "seperate but equal" all over again.
     
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    Bingo....
     
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    So you would rather him break the law...


    makes total sense.
     
  21. leftlegmoderate

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    That's right, so there is no sense in increasing the number of people who could potentially do such a thing.
     
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    You just don't like drinking in general it seems. Well, it's legal, and discriminating against young adults is wrong.
     
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    Increasing the number of people who can be negatively affected by a thing, just to grant someone a right that's rather pointless, is very hypocritical. That's what Libertarians often fail to understand. By increasing the freedom of some, your jeopardizing others at the same time.
     
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    The constitution says nothing about what age a person should be granted the right to legally consume and purchase alcohol. That's left up to us, and I think we've chosen wisely.
     
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    Hell no, I love my beer. But I'm not an ideologue who thinks in black and white. I also know how dangerous it is. I know how foolish I was at 18, how foolish my friends were at 18. I'm GLAD I couldn't legally buy and consume alcohol. It greatly hindered my ability to access it... which was a good thing.
     

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