Lance Armstrong stripped of Titles and Banned for Life

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  1. RosePop

    RosePop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, at least his cancer was legit!
     
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    I'd need serious drugs to keep me on those tiny seats for all those miles.
     
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    I imagine that's why Palin gave up being governor of Alaska as well.
     
  4. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    So the guy has not raced in years, he won 7 in a row, and just now they are charging him with cheating?

    Are you (*)(*)(*)(*)ing kidding me?
     
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    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    See if you were a liberal you would enjoy it much more.
     
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    He was accused but never proven to be guilty. He refused arbitration where an arbitrator decides his guilt and where athletes almost never win (2 out of 58), nothing like a trial where he would have a chance of proving himself innocent. He passed all doping tests, thousands of them.

    This is not "the appropriate authorities" but an organization using one mans word against another.
     
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    Leo2 Well-Known Member

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    LOL, your grasp of fact appears as shaky as your spelling. I am a citizen of the UK, not an Aussie. :D
     
  8. Leffe

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    Samples are kept and when new testing methods are developed they can be applied to retrospective samples.

    This is quite normal practice.

    Bottom line is that Lance was more than probably doping.
     
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    Well, that's not exactly true. When you're fighting for innocence you don't get your money back. We have tons of people who go only so far then take a plea. Armstrong's attorneys no doubt cost between $700 and $1000 an hour, paralegals at $300.

    Over time you can lose a fortune because of it.
     
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    I don't know the nature of the evidence or even if there is evidence. I've heard only that he passed every drug test. How was he found guilty?
     
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    Player haters.
     
  12. TheHat

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    Best comment of the thread. In fact, only comment actually discussing the facts.

    The OP created this tread in a ridiculous attempt to somehow tie it to Romney. Absolutely ridiculous and stupid.

    Armstrong hasn't failed anything yet the USADA is banning him for.......for what? Winning????

    I read Armstrong's full statement last night and in it he says the USADA is breaking their own rules to ban him.

    It's really a weird situation.
     
  13. AceFrehley

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    I think it's a shame so much time was wasted on this. I hope this witch hunt agency isn't taxpayer-funded.
     
  14. Think for myself

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    Armstrong is a liar and a cheat.

    If he had a bit of honor and class he would it and turn his awards back in. Instead he has opted to remain a liar and a cheat.

    Did he dope? Of course. Vaughters. Hincapie. Landis. Hamilton. Leipheimer. All teammates of his have all stated they all doped. All of them are lying and Armstrong is telling the truth? He beat guys like Pantani in the climbs and Ulrich in the flats, guys who were notorious cheats yet he was clean? You have got to be (*)(*)(*)(*)ing kidding me.

    This is lance Armstrong when he thinks no one can see. Forward to about the 30 second mark. he hits someone for no reason. The guy is a raging (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) with no honor.

    [video=youtube;kQsqS-mY3jI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQsqS-mY3jI[/video]

    Armstrong charging Pantani on Mt. Ventoux. Armstrong beat a doped up Pirata in a climb? Up Mt Ventoux? No way. Simply no way. He outweighed him by 20 pounds.

    [video=youtube;FXPXHK7I1iQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXPXHK7I1iQ[/video]
     
  15. Think for myself

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    Not quite true.

    During his first TDF win he tested positive and magically produced a prescription that for some topical cream magically made it's way into his bloodstream.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/cycling/st...ot-fight-us-anti-doping-agency-charges-082312

    He was leading the race when a trace amount of a banned anti-inflammatory corticosteroid was found in his urine; cycling officials said he was authorized to use a small amount of a cream to treat saddle sores.
     
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    I noticed that the typical anti-American, pro-obama sycophants are relishing in Armstrong being stripped of his individual achievements.

    Armstrong has a good case for defamation of character.
     
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    It is by no means clear whether the USADA has the right to revoke Armstrong's Tour de France wins, as this is more properly the jurisdiction of the International Cycling Union (UCI). It is not the evil foreigners who are going after Lance, but rather the U.S. cycling body. Their case against him includes:

    1. Blood sample from 2009 and 2010 that are supposed to be "fully consistent with doping".
    2. Four other riders with much less prestigious records were also charged with doping, but got plea-bargained to minor sentences in exchange for agreeing to testify against Armstrong.
    3. His former cycling team chief Jonathan Vaughters also testified against him.
    4. Much was made of the fact that Lance's cycling doctor for a while was Michele Ferrari, who is now serving a world-wide lifetime ban for doping violations.

    This may not be full-out fire, but there's an awful lot of smoke. I think the vindictiveness of the current prosecution may come from the fact that when allegations were made at the height of Armstrong's career, the USADA was quick to defend him after Lance confirmed to them that he was not doping. They now feel they were lied to and used and are looking for some payback.
     
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    Did you write that about Bradley Manning before the trial?

    Or the Duke Lacrosse team members?

    Or Julian Assange?
     
  19. Think for myself

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    He does? He is a cheat and a liar. I am not sure why stating the obvious is defamation.
     
  20. keymanjim

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    ^^^^Case in point.^^^^
     
  21. Think for myself

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    He has opted not to. He conceded and does not want to be part of the process.
     
  22. exotix

    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    You think the USADA as a taxpayer-funded non-profit organization and the national anti-doping organization (NADO) for the United States just goes around persecuting select-star-athletes and prosecuting them on a whim ?

    You might as well accuse Issa and the right-wing congressional wingbats of the same thing about Holder ... right ?



    United States Anti-Doping Agency

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Anti-Doping_Agency


    History and independence

    Recognizing the increased negative attention on doping in the Olympics, and a lack of credibility in the international community of the United States in anti-doping matters prior to 2000, the United State Olympic Committee's Select Task Force on Drug Externalization made the recommendation that an independent organization manage the anti-doping program on the USOC's behalf, rather than the USOC itself.

    In October 1999, the USOC announced the creation of USADA, to begin operation in October 2000.

    USADA's independence from the USOC contrasts the norm in the United States in which most professional sport organizations (MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL) manage the anti-doping aspects of their sports.
     
  23. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So he is not a cheat and a liar?

    I am not sure I understand your argument here.
     
  24. Beevee

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    Who would dare to kid an American about an American. Rest assured, he is whiter than white and it's all anti-American rhetoric and abject jealousy. If he wasn't an American, then it would all be true, but as he is, it isn't.
     
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    I don't think a lot of people know this.

    Armstrong maintained his relationship with Ferrari after Ferrari was initially caught participating in blood doping.

    http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/8...ari-prior-to-2010-Tour-de-France-updated.aspx
     

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