Holder begs court to stop document release on fast and furious

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  1. DonGlock26

    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    This is a dirty administration. They have been caught red handed supplying Mexican drug cartels with assault weapons. Then, they lied to congress about it. They are attempting to block the people's access to the actual documents. This is gangster gov't.
     
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    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For ObamaCo, "transparency" OBVIOUSLY meant "you'll be able to see right through us"
     
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    The Supreme Court has not really set a precedent on Executive Priviledge other than to take it on a case by case bases. Sometimes they side with the President and sometimes they don't. As such, the lower courts really have no guideline to follow in the release of classified materials. Hell, in US v Nixon the Supreme Court did not make him turn over tapes right away. He had plenty of time to destroy all the tapes if he wanted because up until the time it was ruled on they were still his personal property.
     
  4. DonGlock26

    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    These seem like an attempt to read DoJ documents and not Oval Office tapes.
     
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    Unless Obama slaps Executive Priviledge on them which I believe he has.
     
  6. DonGlock26

    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Sure, but it's not Oval Office communication. This was an ATF operation gone bad and a cover-up.
     
  7. Albert Di Salvo

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    I don't think obama has the moral standing to speak on the subject of gun control because he is a gun runner himself.
     
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    What are they scared of? What information within the documents could possibly be so bad?

    Why aren't Obama supporters beating down the White House doors, demanding to know why 300 Mexicans have been killed as a result of 'assault weapons' the government walked into Mexico?
     
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    Those documents could make the difference between skating off to a comfy retirement and some 300 counts of Criminally Negligent Manslaughter and the grey bar motel for a long time.

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    Sounds kinda racist to me that they aren't.
     
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    Obama's first step to keeping guns out of the hands of criminals should be to fire Holder
     
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    He should be begging the relatives of officer Brian Terry and the Mexican Nationals killed because of this for forgiveness from a federal jail cell looking forward to a very long stretch.
     
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    Which makes Latino support for this admin all the more confusing. But then again, perhaps they think the implication of amnesty balances things out.
     
  13. Albert Di Salvo

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    More americans died in Chicago from gunfire last year than died from combat in afghanistan. But no one says anything about the Chicago deaths.
     
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    that's because it is not politically correct to point out that about half the murder victims in this country are black and over 90% of those were killed by their fellow blacks.
     
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    Apparently Holder didnt do a back ground check on the mexican drug runners.
     
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    Incredible, isn't it?

    Things are so bad in Chicago, that a U.S. military medic would fail to impress a Chicago E.R. tech with their war stories.
     
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    I think their continuing support of Obama cements the premise that American Hispanics are far more concerned with government handouts than any amnesty for "disenfranchised, oppressed" illegals.

    He promised them major immigration reform, and delivered next to nothing...
    He walked in and lost track of thousands of weapons that have, and will continue to fall into the hands of criminals who kill their southern brothers and sisters.

    but Obama's gravy train is still delivering the goods.
     
  18. Albert Di Salvo

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    The dishonesty of the left and its control of the media is why the old political rules no longer apply. Events beyond anyone's control will humble the leftists.
     
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    Sure he did. Holder knew that these guys were gun runners and he knew that Mexicans and maybe even a few Americans would be killed with the guns that he let walk; all for the purpose of showing how bad assault weapons are. That was the idea but there are some real American in the ATF who couldn't keep such a treason secret.

    Not many of the liberal/progressive horde in here defending BHO and Holder.

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    Sure he did. Holder knew that these guys were gun runners and he knew that Mexicans and maybe even a few Americans would be killed with the guns that he let walk; all for the purpose of showing how bad assault weapons are. That was the idea but there are some real American in the ATF who couldn't keep such a treason secret.

    Not many of the liberal/progressive horde in here defending BHO and Holder.
     
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    They are just "bumps in the road" that the One must maneuver his bus over on the way to the next vacation.
     
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    The One sees the Sandy Hook shootings as a smooth ride down the hill to the peaceful valley of total government control of our lives. As BH Obama picks up speed he may notice that there are some serious curves on the road he has chosen and his brakes aren't working.
     
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    I say he should get Jon Hammar's cell in Matamoro.
     
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    So true. He and Holder have placed more automatic weapons out in the hands of criminals then anyone. He needs to make sure they are being banned from him and Holder!! :wink:

    Definitely a cover-up. The strangest thing to me is that no one in the mainstream seems to care. Do you think they'd have just let this go had it been George W. Bush who had let 2000 automatic weapons out in the hands of criminals????? Hell no.
     
  24. Albert Di Salvo

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    The media has shown itself to be nothing more than Obama's Ministry of Propaganda. The combination of Executive Branch power with Media power is a dangerous development the existence of which can no longer be denied.

    George Orwell recognized the same phenomenon in several of his books. The phenomenon is a clear and present danger to every American who loves liberty.
     
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    People are dead because of F&F. The administration stone walls. Liberals, the press, silent.
    People are dead in Benghazi. The administration stone walls. Liberals, the press, silent.
    People are dead in Newtown. The administration, liberals and the press want to tear up and shed the 2nd amendment and slander/destroy any law abiding citizen or group of law abiding citizens in opposition.

    The duplicity, hypocrisy and strict allegiance to Obama's anti-American progressive ideals is blatantly obviously.
     

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