"Snowfall Will Be a Thing of the Past"-2012 Warmists

Is that what happened in the last election?

 

No one is asking that you stop exploring global warming and learning more about it. Just hold off on taxing and punishing people till something concrete comes forward.... and spending is everything.... If a country doesnt have money, what can it offer its best scientist to stay and keep producing cutting edge technology? Science takes money.... I dont argue the science, i just dont think enough is their to start creating billion and trillion dollar regulations. I want some evidence that the money spent will combat a tangible problem.

 

Carbon cycle? Please do tell us about the carbon cycle, how do the current aspects of this carbon cycle compare to the carbon cycle of the Earth 800 million years ago? The problem is the Earth is older than that, so how about a comparison to 2.4 billion years ago... I'll patiently wait for what data you can present... I will reiterate once more, our current data is too limited to make broad based accusations or assumptions of what humanity can or cannot do to effect a climate system we still don't even fully understand.

 

Must be a reason we don't build giant walls to protect us from ocean-surge from every Hurricane ... say, like Europe does.

 

Yes, and climatologists have tools called thermometers and MSUs to measure the temperature of the atmosphere.

 

That is an invalid comparison as you well know...

 

But that science requires past data, LOTS OF IT, to compare and contrast. With out that data, what good is the current data? In science , you need a control... what is that control ?

With your fever scenario, the doctor already has countless libraries full of data stating that the average human temp is 98 point whatever... you can even take samples from other human beings and see what their average temperature is. Then, we can compare your temp to the average and determine from their. Or , a doctor can simply look at your past visits when your temp was taken (every time) and get a working average.....

 

I'm rather certain that practicality and cost are factors you are ignoring when it comes to building walls. Liberals won't even allow us to build a wall to keep out criminal aliens, you really think they'll build walls to keep out tides that aren't potential democrat votes in the future?

 

You will notice that not a single warmmonger in this thread has addressed the OP. Last year warmmongers blamed the lack of snow in Eastern US on global warming. This year they blame the excess of snow in eastern US on global warming. Do not expect any warmmonger to give you a straight comment in this thread.

 

That's fine. But you have several people here who don't even accept the fact that humans have a responsibility in the current warming trend.
Do you realize that the extreme weather conditions that climate change will produce will be more expensive than addressing the problem of warming? Think Sandy, the US drought, the Texas wildfires? An individual event cannot be attributed to AGW, but that does not mean that AGW is not responsible for some of the extreme weather.

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No I do not. Explain it to me.

 

I just don't think spending money will prevent hurricanes, fires, and other natural disasters. I wouldn't mind spending more money on disaster response.... that could save A LOT. gotta go play sims 3 for a little bit thanks for the discussion.

 

How is that going for you???



Oh we know we know you need 20 years. Of course 5 years ago it was 15. Five years from now it will be 25.

 

I see ... well must be a reason we build civilizations in *Tornado-Bait* areas ... probably to give Tornado-Siren builders a job ... like where I live ... yeah, when they go off we all huddle terrified ..

 

Which "warmmongers"? I want names and their predictions.

 

Sandy wasn't even a Hurricane when it made landfall. What caused all the damage wasn't sandy. It was the two massive cold fronts sandy ran into creating a major low pressure super storm. The devastation was caused by the cold not global warming.

 

The OP is a flat lie, quoting the unsupported assertion of a blog as reality, an all too common denier tactic.

 

More lies. It's statistics that determines what is necessary. I thought you were the statistics expert?

 

Wrong ... Sandys path was straight-out to sea ... then in less than 24 hrs. it turned landward ... N.Y. & N.J did the best they could ... as opposed to Bush who had birthday cake with McCain and strummed guitar while people died in Katrina ...

 

Nice try at distraction! Was it or was it not an extreme weather event?

 

Sandy was just a minor tropical storm. What turned it into a super storm was two low pressure systems. IE. cold weather.

 

You're still wrong ... quit embarrasing yourself.

 

Extreme weather event??? What happened to global warming. Prove that those cold low pressure systems that turned the very mild sandy into a super storm had anything to do with global warming.

 

More likely we built civilizations where they could prosper, as I'm uncertain there is any place in which some natural disaster is not a factor, be it tornado, hurricane, flooding...

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More likely we built civilizations where they could prosper, as I'm uncertain there is any place in which some natural disaster is not a factor, be it tornado, hurricane, flooding...

 

I'm actually well versed in stats as I use it for my work. However I'm not the one who set the bar at 15 years. It was your won Dr. Phil Jones.

http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/bams-sotc/climate-assessment-2008-lo-rez.pdf

Stings dont it. Dont worry I'm sure that the next thread you will complelty ignore it and try to make the same argument again.

You have argued this before. You know that Dr. Phil Jones set the bar at 15 years. Yet you call me a liar. Lets see if you know it isn't true what is the word for that. Its right on the tip of my tongue it begins with an L and rhymes with fire.

 

Its extremity was determined by its effect on humanity, as far as storms go it was not that extreme in terms of actual force, wind speeds, and such...