Taxes on the rich already gone...

We'll, when you have a republican party that advocates getting rid of the public school system where they can teach such skills, many of the poor just can't afford to enter into any type Trade or Vocational school that charges tuition. The whole conspiracy is to privatize everything where the certain privileged get access to all the opportunities, while the already welfare /food stamp poor, are weeded out from society. When you privatize everything, you eventually can accomplish just that. Because they know there are not enough, and will never be enough jobs out there to cater to the welfare population. And as a result, there will always be the poor. Just look at the Sequester. We take away food nutrition instead of loopholes for oil companies. I mean, really. If that isn't a conspiracy I don't know what is. But there are many of the poor who know this is going on, and they just try and milk the system for as long as they can. GOOD FOR THEM! The whole thing is stacked against them, no matter which way they turn.

 

For a long time!

 

Granny says, "Dat's right - keep taxin' dem rich folks till dey bring back the jobs dey outsourced...

Another Tax-the-Rich Plan Introduced in Congress
March 8, 2013 - Congressional liberals aren't done taxing wealthy Americans.

 

Actually no! http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/07/12/study-offshoring-creates-as-many-u-s-jobs-as-it-kills/Offshoring creates as many U.S. jobs as it kills, study says

 

1. I am a democrat.
2. Most school systems offer some vocational training.
3. 2 year colleges tend to have such programs.
I live in a small Alabama Town in Southeast AL. Within 25 miles are 3 such junior colleges which teach not only basic freshman type course but cabinet making, auto and engine repair, Aviation Electronics, Aviation frame and wiring repair, ATC, Airport management and operations, and other trades that provide education for good jobs. These schools (and others) offer low cost programs with many within the $$$$ that poor students get in grants. So lets talk reality instead of having a tirade against republicans. BTW, Alabama tends to be a GOP state.

I don't see the conspiracy you are talking about. We have a good public school system and several of our local high schools have been in the top 200 schools judged by success of students nationwide. Instead of trying to place blame, whereas there is plenty to go around, lets work to improve what we give to our young people.

 

foreign outsourcing creates as many jobs in the USA as it sends overseas... lol, yeah right

 

Outsourcing is only a minor part of the problem.

http://www.automationworld.com/semiconductors/outsourcing-not-culprit-manufacturing-job-loss

Close the borders, and the unskilled are still unemployed.

Even China is not immune:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/foxcponn-apple-iphone-ipad-robot,19088.html

How many does Foxconn employ?

Are skilled jobs being replaced by "automation". TurboTax, Legal Zoom, Quicken, etc.have replaced high paying professional jobs.

As an engineer, software has done a lot to increase productivity - which means, 1 person can do the work it used to take 2, 3, 5 engineers to do. Circuit modelling is so good products require fewer iterations pror to volume production, reducing the number of technical staff required for testing interim designs. Technology is growing so fast that jobs haven't been "lost", just never created.

 

From my perspective and in that alternative, it is simple moral issue; if labor is required to have an extra-legal "work ethic" then employers should be required to have an extra-legal "employment ethic" in any at-will employment State in our republic, as comity, and privilege and immunity.

 

There are many job openings that go unfilled. College is a waste of time if you get a degree with little demand in the work place.

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/ri...here-the-jobs-are-and-the-college-grads-arent

http://www.theatlantic.com/business...rads-are-jobless-or-underemployed-how/256237/

 

Foreign labor remitting funds to their country of origin also helps create jobs in the US to the extent we trade with those foreign countries.

 

Actually no for taxes or jobs? Because he's right. The taxes of the rich haven't gone up. They just went back to where they were.

 

Did you read the study? Do you understand the statistics? If the answer to both questions is "yes" you are not open to the facts.

 

It is my opinion that "work ethic" tends to be balanced by wage. Those who work the hardest get the most within the same skill set. Employers are required to pay their employees IAW their production or they will lose those workers to someone who will pay them.

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It is my opinion that "work ethic" tends to be balanced by wage. Those who work the hardest get the most within the same skill set. Employers are required to pay their employees IAW their production or they will lose those workers to someone who will pay them.

 

Correct, and in my opinion ALL OF THE BUSH TAX CUTS should have been repealed, and there should be sufficient surcharges on the higher progressive rates such that during good business cycles there are enough revenues to keep the government going during poor business cycles. (structural deficits/debt)

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Correct, and in my opinion ALL OF THE BUSH TAX CUTS should have been repealed, and there should be sufficient surcharges on the higher progressive rates such that during good business cycles there are enough revenues to keep the government going during poor business cycles. (structural deficits/debt)

 

I can go along with that.

 

do you live in the real world, we need less jobs cause so many soldiers (Americans) are overseas, yet we still have less jobs available for those that want one then before outsourcing began to become such a problem

republicans have talked of raising the age of Social Security... meaning even less jobs as many people will need to work longer


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What objection can there be to ensuring full employment of resources in the market for labor, with existing laws and existing infrastructure in every State of the Union and the federal districts.

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I believe we should merely "free ride" on any privileges and immunities established by persons of wealth under our republican form of Government.

Corporate welfare even has paid multimillion dollar bonuses.

 

How do you account for any "natural" rate of unemployment engendered by Capitalism?

And, you didn't address the issue of that privilege and immunity being extended to only the wealthiest in our republic instead of the intent and letter of existing laws?

 

I wouldn't call "crony capitalism" a "conspiracy" even if it may involve some conspiracy; as a label.

 

Whether you want to accept it or not, automation has more to do with the fewer jobs.

I worry about the intransigence of the GOP too. As a moderate democrat I worry about the extremes of both parties.

 

The "natural" rate of unemployment is increased by:

1. Minimum wage laws (reduces hiring of the young and unskilled)
2. Requirements to provide health care (reduces hiring of the sick and elderly)
3. Disability (you can't earn over $1000 a month - which is less than minimum wage), etc.
4. Productivity (when a person produces 10 times what they consume, you don't need 9 workers)

Only one of those has anything to do with capitalism (although Reiver will tell you that worker owned companies are even more productive) - the other 3 are nanny statism....

 

Assume SSI in a steady state.

1. Work for 45 years (20 - 65), and retire for 15 years (65 - 80). Three employees per retiree.
2. Work for 50 years (20 - 70), and retire for 10 years (70 - 80). Five employees per retiree.
3. Work for 55 years (20 - 75), and retire for 5 years (75 - 80). Eleven employees per retiree.

The current spending for SSI and Medicare is $1.4T, averages $10.7K per taxpayer.

Is that sustainable?

Is a 65 year old today, as old as a 65 year old was in 1940 when SSI was created? Or even a 65 year old in 1965 when Medicare was created?

 

Nonsense. In the 40 years following WW II, no major country was more energetic in pursuing automation than Japan, and no major country consistently had a lower unemployment rate. Automation just frees human labor to do jobs machines can't do. It's TAXING economic activity through payroll taxes, income tax, and sales tax, and raising labor costs through union monopolies and over-regulation, that mainly cause unemployment. You'll note that in the decades when it enjoyed low unemployment, Japan had no sales tax and the lowest rates of income and payroll tax on low and middle incomes of any developed country (it's income tax was steeply progressive on high incomes). As soon as they brought in a sales tax (1989) and raised income and payroll taxes on the poor and middle class, their economy tanked.

 

over half the people paying into ssi will not ever receive it

remove the caps for the rich and ssi would be fine, make the rich pay the SAME amount per dollar they earn as the rest of us do

no reason the rich should not have to pay as much per dollar they earn as the rest of us do for every dollar we earn

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