The Helen Wambach Ph. D. research, NDE's and the issue of ABORTION??!!

DennisTate · Mar 25, 2013

Helen Wambach Ph. D. did a fascinating study on volunteers who were hypnotized in which they reported having some sort of higher dimensional consciousness that existed before birth. This consciousness came into the foetus at or near birth!!!!!!

http://www.carolmoore.net/articles/helenwambach.html

In Life Before Life Dr. Wambach described the results of hypnotizing another 750 people and taking them to the time between their past and current lives. One of her most controversial findings was that people have some choice in their current lives and that the disembodied consciousness or soul does not enter the body until near birth. "The soul usually enters the body near birth, and has a choice of which fetus to enter. If one fetus is aborted, it is possible to choose another. In some cases, the soul who will occupy the fetus, is in contact with the soul of the mother, and can influence her decision regarding abortion."

Dr. Wambach found that 89% of those hypnotized said they did not become part of the fetus until after six months of gestation. A large group said they did not join the fetus, or experience inside it, until just before or during the birth process. They existed fully conscious as an entity apart from the fetus and even after six months many reported being 'in' and 'out' of the fetal body. "Many subjects reported that the onrush of physical sensations on emerging from the birth canal was disturbing and very unpleasant. Apparently the soul exists in a quite different environment in the between-life state. The physical senses bring so much vivid input that the soul feels almost 'drowned' in light, cold air, sounds. Surprising to me was the frequent report that the new-born infant feels cut off, diminished, alone compared to the between-life state. To be alive in a body is to be alone and unconnected. Perhaps we are alive to learn to break through the screen of the senses, to experience while in a body the transcendent self we truly are."
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Kevin Williams is one of the most off the scale brilliant intellects that I have ever had the privilege to read tons of web pages by and he is personally pro-choice due to his research on NDE accounts:

http://near-death.com/atwater/column/archives/2005/2005_11.html

"A woman whose sister had an abortion years ago, then in recent years became very religious and was feeling guilty and troubled about the abortion she once had, contacted me to see if there were any insights in near-death research that might help her sister.
"I have never really done much research about abortions except that I know the Bible is actually pro-choice because of all the abortions "God" caused in the Old Testament, and the abortions which the prophet Moses prayed would happen to Israel's enemies which "God" answered (See 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14). And I know about the story ofJosiane Antonette who had an abortion which resulted in a near-death experience - a wonderful one. I am pro-choice myself and believe NDErs in general support pro-choice. But to find out, I spent most of the day searching case histories concerning abortions and miscarriages. I stumbled across one particular near-death experience involving a miscarriage that, truly, was one of the best cases I had ever heard of. It was so full of insights, so very touching, it just "blew" me away. Then I discovered to my complete amazement that I had been reading about your near-death experience. You!
"One of the many aspects to your testimony that amazed me was that you chose not to have an abortion, yet you stated that you would defend any woman's right to choose to have one. This was all the confirmation I needed to answer the woman concerned about her sister. But, I'd like to ask you, is there an NDE-position on abortion? What have you found in your research?" -- Kevin Williams
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On the other hand.....I must advocate caution on this issue due to the implications of what was shown to Christian Andreason during his NDE regarding his over -soul?????!!!!

DennisTate · Mar 25, 2013

Christian Andreason was shown that our Creator always views us as our real us....the Man/Woman on the Throne...that is within each of us!

My conclusion is that it is probably this higher level aspect of our soul that endures a first trimester abortion!!!!!!

Christian Andreason, Chapter 2:
The Man on the Throne

There was a moment during my experience where I saw myself approaching what looked to be a gigantic, magnificent man, sitting on a alabaster throne. Thru a kind of veil that was partially covering him, I was able to detect that he had very stunning chiseled features. In fact, he was so perfect looking, he almost looked statuesque.

The man was wearing what appeared to be a gleaming white robe and I saw that he had the most fantastic muscular body. It was not large and gross, but truly beautiful and symmetrical. The man's arm was resting on a flat smooth surface that was part of the throne, and when he would move his hand (even the slightest amount) a musical, sparkling rainbow colored essence would fall out and away from within his robe, eventually creating a pool of Light around his feet on the floor.

Initially, the thought that came into my mind that I was seeing God! But then, as soon as I thought this, very quickly, it was revealed to me that this thought was only partially true.
It was immediately made known to me that the physical form I was observing was actually an astral version of "me" in Spirit form, as God saw me existing as already!

I heard inside my mind, "This is your Higher Self." As I looked deeply into this beings eyes, I saw my own reflection and realized that the "inner voice" I had been hearing my whole life (as the voice of my own conscience) had actually been guidance coming for this personage−−who still resides in Heaven in a greater degree of wholeness and Light than I do here on Earth. In fact, I realized that I had only taken a very small portion of my Higher Self's Light with me for my journey here this go round. By doing this I would be encouraged to dig deeper and develop my faith and intuition; and secondly, I do not see how my human brain really could have tolerated too much more Light, as I believe now it would caused my body and mind to short circuit.

It was in the Realm that I learned God only sees each of us as our Higher Selves. It is only our ego mind that defines us as being something lower. I also understood that all other parts of me (in total) make my Highest Self who he is. Later, I realized that the gold and rainbow colored Light that had come out from underneath the robehad actually been the essence or Light of God." (Christian Andreason)
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http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html

Burz · Mar 25, 2013

I think you're missing something. With soul transmigration, I don't really see why abortion matters.

But then, I didn't give a damn in the first place.

DennisTate · Mar 25, 2013

Burz said: ↑

I think you're missing something. With soul transmigration, I don't really see why abortion matters.

But then, I didn't give a damn in the first place.
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Good question Burz!!!

I guess the whole thing comes down to the case that can be presented that we human may have an obligation to love and appreciate our Creator/creator as much as we expect our computers to do what we want them to do?????!!!

Planning and orchestrating an infinite number of Big Bang events over infinite time in the past.....could indicate a Creator that is extremely emotionally involved in our lives....due to the astonishing amount of effort over time that went into inventing us???!!!

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html#a05

Mellen Benedict on part of his near death experience:

When I say that I could see or perceive forever, I mean that I could experience all of creation generating itself. It was without beginning and without end. That's a mind-expanding thought, isn't it? Scientists perceive the Big Bang as a single event which created the universe. I saw that the Big Bang is only one of an infinite number of Big Bangs creating universes endlessly and simultaneously. The only images that even come close in human terms would be those created by supercomputers using fractal geometry equations.
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DennisTate · Mar 25, 2013

What Mellen Benedict describes fits amazingly well with a chapter in Stephen Hawking's Universe entitled The Anthropic Principle!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_model

In the 1920s, theoretical physicists, most notably Albert Einstein, considered the possibility of a cyclic model for the universe as an (everlasting) alternative to the model of an expanding universe. However, work by Richard C. Tolman in 1934 showed that these early attempts failed because of the cyclic problem: according to the Second Law of Thermodynamics, entropy can only increase.[1] This implies that successive cycles grow longer and larger. Extrapolating back in time, cycles before the present one become shorter and smaller culminating again in a Big Bang and thus not replacing it. This puzzling situation remained for many decades until the early 21st century when the recently discovered dark energy component provided new hope for a consistent cyclic cosmology.[2] In 2011, a five-year survey of 200,000 galaxies and spanning 7 billion years of cosmic time confirmed that "dark energy is driving our universe apart at accelerating speeds."[3][4]

One new cyclic model is a brane cosmology model of the creation of the universe, derived from the earlier ekpyrotic model. It was proposed in 2001 by Paul Steinhardt of Princeton University and Neil Turok of Cambridge University. The theory describes a universe exploding into existence not just once, but repeatedly over time.[5][6] The theory could potentially explain why a mysterious, repulsive form of energy known as the cosmological constant, which is accelerating the expansion of the universe, is several orders of magnitude smaller than predicted by the standard Big Bang model.

A different cyclic model relying on the notion of phantom energy was proposed in 2007 by Lauris Baum and Paul Frampton of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.[7]
Other cyclic models include Conformal Cyclic Cosmology and Loop quantum cosmology.
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Burz · Mar 25, 2013

There is no abstract creator. It should also be quite evident that a lot is permitted in the world. You are also not very good with English.

This really belongs in the religion section, but I never visit that.

DennisTate · Mar 25, 2013

Burz said: ↑

There is no abstract creator. It should also be quite evident that a lot is permitted in the world. You are also not very good with English.

This really belongs in the religion section, but I never visit that.
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On the other hand if intelligence and consciousness originated in fundamental or nearly fundamental energy....there is logic in the idea that a Creator who may have planned and choreographed an infinite number of Big Bang events previous to our Big Bang would tend perhaps to become emotionally involved with the creation....us!!!!!!!

You are correct....I am lousy at grammar and spelling!!!

You are right that this could be written up in a way that would fit with religion and philosophy....but our opinions of religion and philosophy affect how we view political questions. If Christians regarded God as perhaps being the most emotionally connected being in the universe....they would try harder to make life easier for God....which would mean doing much more to assist the poor....which could transform the world into a place where many women no longer feel like they are in a Masada like predicament when they first find out they are pregnant!!!??

This of course would tend to decrease the percentage of women deciding to have abortions!

http://www.christianforums.com/t7701455/
North American churches should each have their own currency!

I am of the belief that each large church in North America should discuss the printing up of their own church currency unit such as has been done by a group of socially active citizens in Calgary, Canada with their CalgaryDollars.ca

Here is a good article on how important local currencies were during the Great Depression:

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http://www.whatcomwatch.org/php/WW_open.php?id=717

City in Austria Printed Local Currency

Worgl, like many other European towns and cities, was hit hard by the Great Depression. There was mass unemployment; four of the five local factories had closed, and the people were starving in the streets. Nobody had any money to buy anything. One of the features of an economic depression is that there is not enough money in circulation to ensure that people can meet their basic needs, and in the 1930s, the shortage of currency in many countries of the world became catastrophic.

The mayor of Worgl, together with local businessmen, decided to try to break this economic impasse by creating their own local currency. They printed and issued 60,000 Austrian shillings worth of local currency. These shillings could only be spent in Worgl, so they remained in the local community and were exchanged over and over again.

The positive impact was immediate and surprising to everyone. In only six weeks, unemployment disappeared, all the factories had reopened and everyone had food. For the inhabitants of Worgl, the economic depression was gone. This dramatic transformation became known as the “miracle of Worgl.” Surrounding towns, inspired by the success of Worgl, immediately started printing their own local currencies.

Sadly, the miracle did not last long. When the Austrian Central Bank heard about Worgl’s local currency, they initiated legal proceedings against the mayor and local businessmen. According to Austrian banking law, it was illegal for anyone except the Austrian Central Bank to issue money. The bank won the court case, and the mayor was ordered to shut down the local currency, which he did, under threat of imprisonment. The town then returned to the devastating economic depression of the 1930s, with all the human pain and suffering associated with this catastrophe. Factories closed, and once again, the people starved.

Alternative Currency in the U.S.

Irving Fisher, an American professor of economics at Yale University, visited Worgl before the local currency was suppressed and witnessed the ‘miracle’ firsthand. When he returned to the United States, Fisher spread the word by traveling and lecturing across the country, advocating the use of the Worgl ‘scrip’ everywhere. Inspired by his vision, hundreds of communities began issuing their own currency, and by 1934 there were over 1,000 local communities using ‘scrip’ throughout the U.S.

Every one of these communities experienced a tremendous rejuvenation of their local economies. They thrived while others suffered. Fisher then met with President Franklin D. Roosevelt, proposing the implementation of government-sanctioned local ‘scrip’ in every community in America. When FDR consulted with his top financial advisors and bankers, however, he was advised to shut all the ‘scrip’ systems down, which he did. Instead, he borrowed large amounts of money from bankers, at interest, and used it to pay for the Reconstruction Finance Corporation and the other work-creation projects, which collectively came to be known as the ‘New Deal.’ So ended the last widespread use of a local currency within the U.S.
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Surely everybody who reads this article would agree that we have many advantages over the people who lived in Worgl, Austria during the Great Depression?!

If they can do it....why can't we?

Here in Canada the only problem that we have to watch out for is that we must pay the same rate of taxation if we earn Calgary Dollars as if we had earned Canadian dollars....so we have to keep our level of bartering at the point where our tax bill doesn't get to high.....but if we volunteered our time and our church earned a local currency from another church....it could be amazing where this could lead!

DennisTate · Mar 25, 2013

Fundamental energy Mom and Dad would almost certainly evolve in two forms.....one generally feminine.....one more masculine!

http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/gender/g1.htm

"Pulling and gravitation, which resemble basic feminine traits, are the dominant properties of the magnetic loop. Consequently, magnetic loops have a capacity for storing energy and act to maintain the structural integrity of the entire wave formation. The electronic/energetic loop consists of expanding properties that disperse energetic matter that disappears into space. This is synonymous with masculine characteristics." (Dr. Chaim Tejman)
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grandunifiedtheory.org.il/fund/fund3.htm

"The swirling and spinning motion creates circular formations. To finish
constructing the wave, the energetic matter must complete two semi-circular rounds. The figures are executed perpendicular to each other, and their energetic paths are in a state of superposition. The closed formation allows the energetic matter to move along closed energetic paths and maintain its energetic matter. It creates two internal swirls (vortices), which are neither identical nor symmetrical. In other words, the same type of energetic matter that moves along a common path that is shared by both swirls within a particular wave formation. Nevertheless, the swirls do not contain equal amounts of energy even in units with the same amount of space." (Dr. Chaim Tejman)
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After his near death experience Mr. Christian Andreason reports that he feels that God the Mother is identifiable with The Holy Spirit of Christian theology!

"When I was a child, I was most comfortable with seeing God literally as my "Heavenly Father" and I would hear from Him speaking to me with a voice I can only think to call male. Even today, with my enlightened way of seeing and thinking about God, I am still often comforted by a vision of God as a kind, strong, older man. Especially as it is becoming more obvious that we are living in a world where there is so little well-balanced male leadership and honest-to-goodness integrity!

"Yet at the same time, I am aware that my Soul has had many lifetimes and existed in many religious belief systems where I have been comforted by the conscious notion of God as a masculine presence. But I know in my Heart of Hearts that God ALSO exists as a Divine Feminine presence. For years now my Spirit has told me that this is the part of God we see as, "The Holy Spirit." And since I am mentioning this here, I also want to make it quite clear that I believe our world and humanity has developed a tremendous unbalance due to the fact that The Divine Feminine has not been properly regarded in our religious systems. I think in order to have a healthy Self image of your own Spirit, you need to have both masculine and feminine principle represented and properly regarded. Until then the ego will define gender roles for us and subject many people to unnecessary trials and tribulations." (Christian Andreason, chapter 2)
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http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html

Burz · Mar 25, 2013

DennisTate said: ↑

If Christians regarded God as perhaps being the most emotionally connected being in the universe....they would try harder to make life easier for God....which would mean doing much more to assist the poor....which could transform the world into a place where many women no longer feel like they are in a Masada like predicament when they first find out they are pregnant!!!??
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There are people here you can empathize with, there is no need to empathize with god.

DennisTate · Apr 4, 2013

Burz said: ↑

There are people here you can empathize with, there is no need to empathize with god.
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Good point! Empathizing with each other is one of the truly big lessons in life!

When the Gay Community and New Agers succeed in convincing the rest of us that the Dr. Ian Stevenson and Helen Wambach research explains how they were "born that way" then human to human empathy will surge to a whole new height never attained in the past!!!

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...essage-gods-has-many-plans-gay-community.html

NDE message that God's has many plans for the Gay Community???

When I first read the following message I was rather puzzled!

It took me about five years to begin to understand some of the specific plans that God obviously has for the Gay Community at this critical time in history!

http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html#nine
Christian Andreason:

What about sexually diverse people?

If this world was to ever find out just a small amount of what sexually diverse (gay) people are here to do on this planet, there would never be one single wisecrack or hurtful remark made ever again. Instead there would be great respect! People who speak disrespectful things about people of this orientation ... enact judgment, and do so from a place of unenlightenment, insecurity, ego and socially induced prejudice. Some may use mistranslated scriptures taught to them, not by the Holy Spirit ... but by fear-filled human beings. Many will choose to sustain a Divinely unsupported satanic hate-based rage against these children of God, rather than using Love to bring understanding and healing between both peoples. Christ said, THE GREATEST COMMANDMENT IS THAT WE ARE TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER! When people sling condemnation, judgment and bitterness at others, they are not practicing the great commandment. They are allowing their Souls to fall into darkness.
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DennisTate · Apr 4, 2013

Dr. Ian Stevenson devoted decades to researching the cases of children who had memories of past lives. What he found out about birthmarks or moles corresponding with wounds received in a past life were pretty convincing!

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation01.html

Birthmarks and Birth Defects Corresponding to Wounds on Deceased Persons

ABSTRACT

Ian Stevenson, Department of Psychiatric Medicine, University of Virginia, School of Medicine, Charlottesville, Virginia 22908

Almost nothing is known about why pigmented birthmarks (moles or nevi) occur in particular locations of the skin. The causes of most birth defects are also unknown. About 35% of children who claim to remember previous lives have birthmarks and/or birth defects that they (or adult informants) attribute to wounds on a person whose life the child remembers. The cases of 210 such children have been investigated. The birthmarks were usually areas of hairless, puckered skin; some were areas of little or no pigmentation (hypopigmented macules); others were areas of increased pigmentation (hyperpigmented nevi). The birth defects were nearly always of rare types. In cases in which a deceased person was identified the details of whose life unmistakably matched the child's statements, a close correspondence was nearly always found between the birthmarks and/or birth defects on the child and the wounds on the deceased person. In 43 of 49 cases in which a medical document (usually a postmortem report) was obtained, it confirmed the correspondence between wounds and birthmarks (or birth defects). There is little evidence that parents and other informants imposed a false identity on the child in order to explain the child's birthmark or birth defect. Some paranormal process seems required to account for at least some of the details of these cases, including the birthmarks and birth defects.
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DennisTate · Apr 15, 2013

Burz said: ↑

I think you're missing something. With soul transmigration, I don't really see why abortion matters.

But then, I didn't give a damn in the first place.
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What do you think of the idea of sixty percent of women who had an abortion claiming that they were pressured into it by boyfriends, husbands or other family members?

http://video.intelligencer.ca/video...grasseschi-is-marching-for-life/2264442278001

Faytene Grasseschi is marching for life

Pro-life activist Faytene Grasseschi joins Brian Lilley to discuss her upcoming walk from Montreal to Canada's Supreme Court in Ottawa to protest 25 years of abortion lawlessness in Canada.

DennisTate · Apr 19, 2013

Burz said: ↑

I think you're missing something. With soul transmigration, I don't really see why abortion matters.

But then, I didn't give a damn in the first place.
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What do you think of the issue of Gendericide Burz?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRpUYzleWvo&list=UUtcaphSdgOmZOFZQBtyYNoQ&index=1
Update on Motion 408 - Gendercide In Canada

Burz · Apr 20, 2013

DennisTate said: ↑

What do you think of the issue of Gendericide Burz?
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That depends who is doing it.

DennisTate · Apr 20, 2013

Burz said: ↑

That depends who is doing it.
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Based on statistics, far more than fifty percent of the babies that are killed, even after surviving an abortion, by doctors who operate like Dr. Gosnell are girls!

I posted a reply to this article!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...aw-Ten-Babies-Breathe-Before-They-Were-Killed

Archie Bunker: 2 days ago

Half the MURDERED babies would have been WOMEN....what about their RIGHTS.
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Dennis Tate Archie Bunker • 2 hours ago −

Actually, far far more than half of those murdered babies would have been female because people from many cultures deliberately put pressure on a wife or daughter who has found out that the foetus is female! Sixty percent of women who decide to have an abortion claim that they were pressured into it by boyfriends, husbands or their family. We have zero legal protection for the unborn here in Canada so at the least doctors should be protected from being sued by patients if they decide to NOT perform an abortion if they feel that a female foetus is being targeted, or perhaps if they have good reason to believe that the mother is being pressured into the abortion against her actual wishes.
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DennisTate · Apr 20, 2013

Burz said: ↑

That depends who is doing it.
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Let's imagine that you are Dr. Burz M. D. and a couple has came into your abortion clinic. You let the couple know that the foetus is a girl....and the husband cannot contain his disappointment. A few days later the mother comes in and asks for an abortion.....but you are 98% certain that she has been pressured into this decision and her words requesting the procedure were probably put into her mouth by her husband and other family members. Do you feel that you as a physician should have legal protection from any form of law suit by your patient if you refuse to perform the abortion under those circumstances?

Unifier · Apr 20, 2013

The atheists will say, "There'z no such thingz as a soul!!!! We're all just meats!!! So there'z nothing wrong with aborshun!!! .........even though it's still wrong to kill for some reason."

Yeah, I don't get it either. It's completely arbitrary.

Burz · Apr 20, 2013

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Do you feel that you as a physician should have legal protection from any form of law suit by your patient if you refuse to perform the abortion under those circumstances?
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Sure. I'm not pressuring people to have abortions, the conservatives are pressuring people not to, and unlike them I am in favour of more support for parents, or for children whose parents don't want them.

DennisTate · Apr 21, 2013

Unifier said: ↑

The atheists will say, "There'z no such thingz as a soul!!!! We're all just meats!!! So there'z nothing wrong with aborshun!!! .........even though it's still wrong to kill for some reason."

Yeah, I don't get it either. It's completely arbitrary.
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I am of the opinion that Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua may have been in basic agreement with the judgment call by the Machabees that it was OK to fight back and even take the lives of Greco-Syrians soldiers who attacked their villages on the Sabbath!!!!

I believe that although these Jewish soldiers killed Greco-Syrian soldiers, this was not murder and the commandment should actually be translated "thou shalt do no murder" rather "than thou shall not kill."

Also....it seems that it is permissible on the Sabbath, to technically violate the Sabbath in order to save the lives of your family and fellow Jews!

Mark 3:4 "And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace."

http://www.drbo.org/chapter/45002.htm

And they said: We will not come forth, neither will we obey the king' s edict, to profane the sabbath day. [35] And they made haste to give them battle.

[36] But they answered them not, neither did they cast a stone at them, nor stopped up the secret places, [37] Saying: Let us all die in our innocency: and heaven and earth shall be witnesses for us, that you put us to death wrongfully. [38] So they gave them battle on the sabbath: and they were slain with their wives, and their children, and their cattle, to the number of a thousand persons. [39] And Mathathias and his friends heard of it, and they mourned for them exceedingly. [40] And every man said to his neighbour: If we shall all do as our brethren have done, and not fight against the heathens for our lives, and our justifications: they will now quickly root us out of the earth.

[41] And they determined in that day, saying: Whosoever shall come up against us to fight on the sabbath day, we will fight against him: and we will not all die, as our brethren that were slain in the secret places.
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To a degree.....when a woman decides to have an abortion it is somewhat similar to the Jewish rebels at Masada who committed suicide rather than be taken as slaves and/or crucified.....

Women feel that having their baby can put them into a situation of near slavery in our society and economy. Whether or not they are correct or not is between them and God.....I cannot judge them for their decision....but I am responsible to make sure that people are more fully informed of all the evidence that I believe relates to this topic!

DennisTate · Apr 21, 2013

Burz said: ↑

Sure. I'm not pressuring people to have abortions, the conservatives are pressuring people not to, and unlike them I am in favour of more support for parents, or for children whose parents don't want them.
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I agree. It is theoretically possible to transform our economies and make them vastly more compassionate!?

http://www.bankingsystemsflaws.blogspot.ca

My 2006 provincial level campaign as an independent:

When well trained workers have high quality technology to work with then the total of all wages and benefits paid out to employees is only a fraction of the retail value of the products they produce. As a result of this fact the only way to move products out of warehouses is to extend higher and higher levels of credit.

One problem with an abundance of red ink is that compound interest on all this government, business and personal debt over a period of decades will grow to astronomical levels. At this time there is approximately TEN TIMES as much debt in Canada as there is money. A simple explanation for how this happened can be seen here:
http://www.michaeljournal.org/plenty34.htm

In my opinion this rather simple mathematical problem is perhaps the number one cause of inflation in the Canadian economy over the past three decades. This is also perhaps the number one reason why our costs of production are so high and Canadian products cannot compete on the world markets as well as they could under better conditions.

From 1940 to 1970 the Government of Canada put roughly half of the total money supply into the economy through loans issued through the federally owned Bank of Canada. Provincial and municipal governments could borrow the money to build roads, schools, hospitals and sewage treatment facilities at zero or one percent interest.

In 1970 we changed our system and since that time a higher and higher percentage of all government debt is financed through loans issued through privately owned banks. At this time it is ninety eight percent. This policy may be great for our banking sector but it was estimated that in the one year of 1995 alone our federal government could have saved roughly SIXTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in interest payments if we had gone back to creating half the total money supply through these low interest rate loans issued through the bank that is OWNED BY ALL CANADIANS.

Considering that our deficit was approximately thirty billion dollars for that year, simply by changing back to an already proven monetary and banking system, we could theoretically have had a FEDERAL BUDGET SURPLUS OF THIRTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in 1995.

The massive cutbacks in the Canadian military, in health care, highway construction, social programs and education were profoundly affected by these accounting practices?

So what can you and I do about this problem?
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DennisTate · Aug 6, 2014

Burz said: ↑

I think you're missing something. With soul transmigration, I don't really see why abortion matters.

But then, I didn't give a damn in the first place.
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So then you probably would not be interested in this opinion poll began by Hoosier8.

http://www.politicalforum.com/opinion-polls/366788-abortion.html
Abortion

It is my take that the country is pretty divided on this so I would like to see what the forum members choose.

My choice is the last one.
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DennisTate · Nov 1, 2014

Burz said: ↑

There are people here you can empathize with, there is no need to empathize with god.
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Burz…. do you agree with me that this research might just be of use in decreasing hatred of one race for another?

http://www.politicalforum.com/race-...esearch-could-help-end-race-based-hatred.html
The Helen Wambach Ph. D. research could help to end race based hatred.
I read both of Helen Wambach Ph. D.'s books back in the 1990's.

I was impressed by how she conducted her research and rather shocked by the results.

http://www.carolmoore.net/articles/helenwambach.html

DR. HELEN WAMBACH AND REINCARNATION
Dr. Helen Wambach (Ph.D.) was one of the earliest scientific researchers into past lives and reincaration. She was the author of Reliving Past Lives and Life Before Life (both published in 1978 by Bantam paperback books). The updated Reliving Past Lives: The Evidence Under Hypnosis was published in 1984. Mass Dreams of the Future was published by Chet Snow in 1993 after her death was based on her research.

Initially motivated by a desire to debunk reincarnation, beginning in the mid-1960s, Helen Wambach conducted a 10-year survey of past-life recalls under hypnosis among 1,088 subjects. She asked very specific questions about the time periods in which people lived and the clothing, footwear, utensils, money, housing, etc. which they used or came in contact with. Wambach concluded found peoples' recollections to be amazingly accurate and wrote that ''fantasy and genetic memory could not account for the patterns that emerged in the results. With the exception of 11 subjects, all descriptions of clothing, footwear, and utensils were consistent with historical records.''
Victor Zammit describes Wambach's research thus:

By doing a scientific analysis on the past lives reported by her 10,000 plus volunteers she came up with some startling evidence in favor of reincarnation:

• 50.6 % of the past lives reported were male and 49.4 % were female — this is exactly in accordance with biological fact.

• The number of people reporting upper class or comfortable lives was in exactly the same proportion to the estimates of historians of the class distribution of the period.

• The recall by subjects of clothing, footwear, type of food and utensils used was better than that in popular history books. She found over and over again that her subjects knew better than most historians — when she went to obscure experts her subjects were invariably correct.

Her conclusion was:

'I don't believe in reincarnation — I know it!'
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(Wambach 197.
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If you take a white volunteer and hypnotize them and regress them in time several centuries.. for some reason they will have astonishingly realistic impressions in their mind of what it is like to be black and perhaps to be a slave.

If you take a black person and hypnotize them and regress them in time several centuries.. for some reason they will have astonishingly realistic impressions in their mind of what it is like to be white.. and perhaps be the owner of slaves?!

DennisTate · Feb 17, 2015

One of the rather shocking conclusions that I have came to as I thought about how all this probably fits together is that abortions that take place during the first trimester of pregnancy it is probably the part of our soul - spirit that is closest to the Ancient of Days - and the Word - Logos - Messiah ...... who are taking upon themselves the pain of being aborted?!

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http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/index.html

The Man on the Throne

There was a moment during my experience where I saw myself approaching what looked to be a gigantic, magnificent man, sitting on a alabaster throne. Thru a kind of veil that was partially covering him, I was able to detect that he had very stunning chiseled features. In fact, he was so perfect looking, he almost looked statuesque.

The man was wearing what appeared to be a gleaming white robe and I saw that he had the most fantastic muscular body. It was not large and gross, but truly beautiful and symmetrical. The man's arm was resting on a flat smooth surface that was part of the throne, and when he would move his hand (even the slightest amount) a musical, sparkling rainbow colored essence would fall out and away from within his robe, eventually creating a pool of Light around his feet on the floor.

Initially, the thought that came into my mind that I was seeing God! But then, as soon as I thought this, very quickly, it was revealed to me that this thought was only partially true.

It was immediately made known to me that the physical form I was observing was actually an astral version of "me" in Spirit form, as God saw me existing as already!

I heard inside my mind, "This is your Higher Self." As I looked deeply into this beings eyes, I saw my own reflection and realized that the "inner voice" I had been hearing my whole life (as the voice of my own conscience) had actually been guidance coming for this personage−−who still resides in Heaven in a greater degree of wholeness and Light than I do here on Earth. In fact, I realized that I had only taken a very small portion of my Higher Self's Light with me for my journey here this go round. By doing this I would be encouraged to dig deeper and develop my faith and intuition; and secondly, I do not see how my human brain really could have tolerated too much more Light, as I believe now it would caused my body and mind to short circuit." (Christian Andreason, chapter 2)
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I could be wrong about this...... but I have to ask myself if it is not the soul - spirit that I receive at birth that goes through a first trimester abortion...... then what part of my soul - spirit would it be?????????

DennisTate · May 9, 2015

Unifier said: ↑

The atheists will say, "There'z no such thingz as a soul!!!! We're all just meats!!! So there'z nothing wrong with aborshun!!! .........even though it's still wrong to kill for some reason."

Yeah, I don't get it either. It's completely arbitrary.
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Actually it is surprising how many people who term themselves Atheists actually believe in an afterlife. Their problem seems to be with the God of Abraham as presented in Jewish, Christian and Islamic scriptures.

DennisTate · Feb 13, 2016

The tenth chapter of Ariela Solsol's book about her near death experience will be of special interest to anybody interested in the issue of abortion.

https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/7757629.Ariela_Solsol

Chapter 10…..”In this part of the Lord’s revelation to me, there was a deep message of forgiveness. Jesus allowed me to see my own little children who were in this marvelous place. They were so happy to see me and I was crying tears of joy to be reunited with them again! I knew that there would be a huge empty space in my life because of their absence. They would have enriched and blessed my life if they had lived. I was the great loser. Abortion is a sin against the child, but every bit as much a sin against the mother, also. We have no way of knowing how this unborn child could have influenced our life, had it been allowed to live.

The abortion, that I would have would be due to a doctor;s orders, but it was an abortion nonetheless. The miscarriage was no fault of my own, but the spirit of that child must life forever. I know because I saw their sweet faces in paradise! Jesus, my babies and myself were all joyous at this reunion. His forgiveness was TOTAL! His understanding was TOTAL! His empathy was TOTAL! Not for one second did I feel accused or judged by Him as this incredible scene was unfolding before my spiritual eyes.”

This part of my experience, I believe, has a message fro women who have aborted or miscarried babies. Society and the culture they live in told them they were aborting a blob or a fetus. Society neglected to inform that they were indeed murdering their own child! Now, after many years, perhaps, they find themselves laden with tremendous guilt, and hopelessness in their souls. The guilt may come many years later when they finally realize the sad truth and consequence of their action. Sooner or later they must come face to face with the honest realization that they did not allow their child to be given life.
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