If we did not allow Muslim foreigners into the United States...........

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  1. McCorkindale

    McCorkindale New Member Past Donor

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    ......there would not have been a Boston Marathon bombing. Duh!

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    At this time those coming in are far more decent morally than the average American.
     
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  4. McCorkindale

    McCorkindale New Member Past Donor

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    I am sure I am not alone when I ask you for a fact link to support that opinion. :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

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    If we didn't allow Muslim's in there would be none standing for their Maker.
     
  6. McCorkindale

    McCorkindale New Member Past Donor

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    Bottom line, just get them out. They cause nothing but problems. Foreign Muslims do not understand that they have been given an opportunity in America, they are here to LEARN, not TEACH!
    They had their chance deport them back to the third world.

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    "They are here to learn not teach" ? Have you any idea how arrogant that sounds and how untrue that is.
    Most " foreign" Muslims are here to work and live.
    Or are you referring to foreign Muslim students.
    Are you aware that the United States was built by immigrants and " foreigners" Do you have any idea what that big statue is in NYC? And what that represents.
    Have we as a nation now reached the point that we religiously profile our " foreigners"?
    Behavior like this from american citizens sends the United States to the 3rd world.

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    "They are here to learn not teach" ? Have you any idea how arrogant that sounds and how untrue that is.
    Most " foreign" Muslims are here to work and live.
    Or are you referring to foreign Muslim students.
    Are you aware that the United States was built by immigrants and " foreigners" Do you have any idea what that big statue is in NYC? And what that represents.
    Have we as a nation now reached the point that we religiously profile our " foreigners"?
    Behavior like this from american citizens sends the United States to the 3rd world.
     
  8. Burz

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    French supremacy?
     
  9. Mayerling

    Mayerling Well-Known Member

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    Love your reply. The French did help us with that little revolution. I guess then every revolution is more or less a proxy war at some point.
     
  10. McCorkindale

    McCorkindale New Member Past Donor

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    Oh this is rich. My family has been in the United States for 300 years, and I am going to receive a lecture on what America is about. :eyepopping: :smile:

    You know it is not like we draft Muslims and drag them to this country against their will. We tried that once with African-Americans, and we still have not given them their just reward. We are not interested in your Koran, your inappropriate dress on American streets, or your attitude that America owes you something. If you do not like our way of life, leave. You are here to assimilate, and we can do this nicely or with pressure. Frankly, it does not look like the polite approach is working.

    You are a immigrant, you are at the bottom of the food chain. In three, maybe four generations we will consider some opportunity. Until then, my people built the country, and you will learn to live our rules, or be deported.

    Yes, the United States was built by European immigrants, and up until the 1960s most of our immigrants came from Europe, and fit in nicely. We made a mistake by letting the Johnny Jihad's in. Now we have a mess to clean up.

    As to that big statue in New York. We did not make it. It was a gift from the French. If you took the time to learn American history, you would know that. Besides the message encouraging the downtrodden was written over a hundred years ago, not in the 21st century when we have every third world freeloader trying to get into our country after turning their old country into a slum.

    The U. S. Congress is currently reviewing immigration reform. While the headline is "Pathway to citizenship," the first priority is "Secure the Borders." We want the foreign Muslims out. We know how to make that work, and with incidents like the Boston Marathon Bombing, you are playing right into the hands of tough new laws regarding immigrants. You didn't really believe that my family spent the last 300 years building America to give it to you? Did you?

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    and your family stole it from someone who had been here 20,000 years. your 300 is peanuts
     
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    Let me extend this a step further. Egypt really did better than we did. They overthrew their government without any help. They are still fighting things out over there. What America needs to do is confront the third world. You want freedom in your country? Feel free to read our founding documents and history. Stop whining to the United States, and do things for yourself. You might want to start by getting off your asses and cleaning up your slums. We certainly do not want your mess in the United States. Stay home!

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    Another historically incorrect remark. What a surprise in the Political Forum.

    Weather we like it or not, geopolitical boundaries are determined by who won the war. Doesn't matter the country or region of the world. The winner sets the rules. The United States was wrong during the 19th Century by forcing the Monroe Doctrine to make America from "Sea to Shining Sea." Unfortunately, we can not change the past. And the past for Native Americans is not much cleaner than the past of the United States. Everyone pulled some nasty, dirty tricks.

    In the end the United States won all the wars. But, as we rolled into the 20th Century we gave Native Americans things we did not give our own citizens. Start with free medical care. Basically, free middle class housing, and on college admittance, Native Americans go before U. S. citizens. Does this even the score? I doubt it, but these were things the United States did to make things better for Native Americans. And, today these tribes own casinos and are awash with money to build their lives the way they want.

    300 years is peanuts? I don't think so, because 300 years ago the Spanish had just come here, and were building their empire, which we took from them. In the 1840s after the Mexican American War the United States forgave Mexico its war debt, and paid them $18,000,000 for our southern border as it now stands. We did not have to do this we won the war. We do what we can for those we have hurt, but none the less, we won the war. It is our way or the highway. Am I getting through to any foreign Muslims out there? Frankly, it does not matter. Our country, our rules.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_gaming

    "Because these areas have tribal sovereignty, states have limited ability to forbid gambling there,
    as codified by the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act of 1988. As of 2011, there were 460 gambling operations run by 240 tribes,
    with total annual revenue of $27 billion."
     
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    wars are ended by legally binding treaties. America broke every frickin one they signed. theft, pure and simple. live with it!
     
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    We would still have right-wingers like Eric Rudolph and Timothy McVeigh carrying-out the same, or worse.
     
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    Links please. Prove that America "broke every fricking one they signed." Again, an overstatement from someone who has obviously seen too many television westers.

    There are few facts, if any to support you. And, in my quote I acknowledge "Everyone pulled some, nasty, dirty tricks."

    I notice you did not address the 27 BILLION A YEAR that 240 tribes take in from gambling casino revenues.
     
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    McCorkindale New Member Past Donor

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    The point is that if we remove foreign Muslims we will have more resources to deal with the Eric Rudolph's and Timothy McVeigh who are clearly an American responsibility.

    I will ask again, name one major contribution of foreign Muslims to creating a better lifestyle in America. Foreign Muslims absorb taxpayer resources and reward us problems, PROBLEMS, PROBLEMS!
     
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    You are a racist.

    Diversity is our strength. We must retain diversity because it is the right thing to do. Even if it means people will be killed. Even if it means cultures and languages will fade away into history. Even if it means entire ethnic groups are removed from existence.

    Because this is the righteous thing to do. Sacrifices must be made to get rid of racism and racist people who oppose diversity.
     
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    Name a contribution of the Religious Right.
     
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    You do know that our nation's defenses are not omnipresent nor omniscient, right? Somewhere, someday, another attack is going to happen. It may not be by a Muslim. There are multiple terrorist attacks carried out by all sorts of people in this country. Is it more likely to be a Muslim? Yes, probably. Why? Is it because they are all evil and deserve to be kicked out of this country? No. Is it because we are at war in two Middle Eastern countries and are constantly bombing people to maintain our supremacy over the region? Yeah, that sounds more like it. Instead of kicking out people who have had NOTHING to do with these attacks and many whose families have been here for GENERATIONS, I have a better solution. One that isn't insane and immoral for a whole slew of reasons.

    STOP goose stepping around the Middle East like it is our playground. We have been overthrowing governments covertly and overtly in the region for over 60 years, it's time we got the hell out of there. Oh, and spend the money from our misadventures on INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES.

    There, fixed the problem.
     
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    Not all Muslims are bad. Actually, I suspect very few of them are. It's a religion. If you don't like it, think back to all the wars that your religion has caused (Atheist Excluded. Sorry guys :D )
     
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    http://future.state.gov/when/timeline/1830_timeline/indian_treaties_and_the_removal_act_of_1830.html
     
  23. Mayerling

    Mayerling Well-Known Member

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    FYI I am American born and bred with MY family being here as long as yours. And no, I am not of Arab or Muslim descent- pure WASP. My major was history so pleasedon't lecture me. And I am of the generation who was taught us history, civics and since I was brought up in CA (in fact my grandparents lived in pacific palisade and my father and cousin were raised there) I was taught calif history as well.
    I, however, am not a racist.
     
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    I'm curious, McCorkindale. Do you have any figures about what percentage of Muslims in the US have committed acts of terrorism? Or have participated in marches like in the picture you showed? Here's a thought for you - maybe we shouldn't throw out over a million average, normal, hard-working Americans because their religion happens to share a name (and some basic tenets, but not the more important ones) with that of a handful of (*)(*)(*)(*)ing sociopaths.
     
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    Non-Muslim Americans kill far more Americans than Muslim Americans or foreign Muslims.
     

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