And if you can produce that imaginary victim then please, give them a contact number for their local ACORN office - or whatever they call themselves now.
The way I read it, supporting documentation is only neccesary when the name on the ID doesn't match the name on the voter registration. So if you were Martha Jones when you registered but then changed your name to Martha Smith and got a new ID , when you went to vote you would have to prove that you legally changed your name. In my mind, that DOES seem ridiculous, as it is unlikely that a woman named Martha Smith who matched the description on her ID would attempt to vote for Martha Jones.
The supporting documents are needed to get a new updated ID card. They are not needed at the voting place.
I am saying that when challenged to prove your assertion of millions of fraudulant votes, you danced away from the challenge. I think its because you can't prove that there has been voter fraud to the degree that you asserted.
If a person is unable or unwilling to obtain legal documents pertaining to herself, what does that say about her ability to maintain a simple documentation process for an employer? Can you name a job that doesn't require workers to properly fill out paperwork and file it?
Liberals want all the social welfare programs, which also require a lot of paperwork, including ID. I don't get it.
What voters can't get the proper paper work to get their voter ID? Illegal immigrants? I'm inclined to agree with the several people here who are making the assumption that you're insinuating that Texas voters are intellectually incapable of figuring out how to legally vote. I don't think our Founding Fathers would agree with ignoring immigration laws. Voting, back then, was also much more strictly enforced. They would tell you "I told you so," when you started lobbying for more voting rights for everyone (all men/women, property and non-property owners, young adults, etc). Now you guys are fighting for voting rights for prisoners and illegal immigrants. They actually warned that once you start letting more people vote, it won't stop there - it'll open the flood gates, so that everyone gets a say. It used to be restricted to land ownership in 1790, so you'd probably have an uphill battle ahead of you, if you were to argue with the FFs. Just sayin'.
That's not how I read it, and if that IS the case, then what the hell? Arkansas has had that law forever, you can't just show up and get an ID in a different name without proving why lol.
I love how the left keeps claiming voter disenfranchisement anytime voter ID is required. I notice they do not challenge rules by banks to require proper ID to cash a check, or for the government in requiring employers to verify the identity of employees during the hiring process. Yet requiring the same information for someone wanting to vote is not allowed. Frankly, the claims made in this article is the stupidest that I have seen yet. The article claims that 66% of all Texas women either do not have a drivers license, got married within 30 days of the election or are in violation of Texas Driving laws. From the Texas Department of Public Safety: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/driverlicense/changes.htm Is this article really claiming that women lose the original copy of their marriage license within the first 30 days? The claims made by this article is complete BS.
Why on God's Green Earth, should one on welfare be allowed to vote in the first place? Does a hen in the chicken coop unlatch the door and tell the fox to come on in? Good Grief, Charley Brown.
The estimates for number of illegals here are what, 12 million? Yeah, right. Anyway, I don't see anything irrational about a voter ID laws. Citizenship is a requirement for voting. If it affects women, it's an unintended consequence. So have a pro-abortion rally and bring all the benevolent bureaucrats with you to help women get their IDs and registered to vote Democrat. Seems like an opportunity for you.
Well, Jeff, there wasn't a known problem with voter fraud back then... and there is now. You libs even claimed as much in the 2000 and 2004 elections, remember? How funny that your tunes change in such a short period of time.
Preaching to the choir. I believe that anyone who has collected any form of welfare assistance for more than 25% of any election cycle should be ineligible to vote in said election. So for a Presidential election, if you were on welfare for more than one calender year out of the previous 4, you're ineligible to vote in that election.
Really? So what is the known voter fraud now- that didn't exist then? How many proven fraudulant votes were cast in the last Presidential election? I haven't seen anything which demonstrates that there is any bigger problem now than there has ever been- only that there are people who suddenly demand that 80 year olds prove that they can legally vote, after voting for 60 years without needing to.
If they have obtained a state driver's license, or other state issued ID, they should have had that documented already. The way I read it, a woman would need that photo ID, and the name change documents to vote. I call that just a little over the top, ok, a lot over the top. I do favor having a valid state ID for voting purposes, I don't see what is so hard or disenfranchising about providing proof of identification, but if you have the proper ID, anything beyond that is asinine.
Man, a lot of farmers who receive one form or another of government assistance are going to be pissed about not being able to vote.
You're right. Voting registration is a big problem, as was proved during the 2008 election with ACORN. Here's how that effects voting, though... If fake/dead people or illegal immigrants are allowed to register to vote, and those registrants are accepted, and people are not required to use an ID to vote... then what's to stop people from voting more than once under one of those fake names, or what's to stop an illegal immigrant from voting? Additionally, even if a real/alive/non-illegal person IS registered, what's to stop someone from voting on behalf of that person, if no ID is required? Such an instance has been proven to occur in DC. How many other times does it/can it happen? And if someone decided not to vote, for whatever reason, what's to stop someone else from voting for that person for whoever they want? The electoral process is broken... it has been for some time. It's time to fix it.
Liberals, just admit you don't want voter ID laws because you want illegals to vote Democrat. Please quit boring us with this disenfranchising crap. This is definitely one of your weakest positions. I think the GOP can seize on it and get a bounce. If there ever was an issue that says - look how stupid we (politicians) think you ( American people) are, it's this one.
How about all these witch hunters who are looking for fraudulent votes to tally, and come away with zip, zero nada? Even when the investigations are run by Republicans, they come up empty handed. Care to acknowledge those cases? Care to admit that voter fraud as a whole is nothing but an imaginary scare tactic employed by the Hard Right to get people in line with the Fuhrur's doctrine from the top of the Koch Commandos? I didn't think so, because you have been fed this story from the Right Wing Faux Media, that massive voter fraud exists. When both sides, despite claims to the contrary can't dig up much of anything.
who cares ? I seriously doubt that very many people attempt to claim they are someone else when they go to buy a gun either, but I want ID checked , just in case. AND if you don't have ID, guess what? Tough (*)(*)(*)(*), you don't get to buy a gun. Hell, I was out and about Saturday and wanted a beer with lunch , I didn't have my ID on me, tough (*)(*)(*)(*) for me no beer even though I'm clearly over 21.
2012 Fraud Reports: http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/the-big-list-of-vote-fraud-reports/ https://www.sos.state.oh.us/SOS/mediaCenter/2013/2013-05-23.aspx http://michellemalkin.com/category/voter-fraud/ http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/340174/voter-fraud-never-happens-keeps-coming-back-john-fund http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/06/report-475-cases-of-alleged-voter-fraud-in-nc-from-2008-2012/ 2008 Fraud Reports: http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2012/04/more-2008-election-fraud-uncovered/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...2008-election/2012/04/24/gIQAkqwueT_blog.html http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB124182750646102435 http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/25349 http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/02/4-indiana-dems-charged-with-election-fraud-in-2008/ http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/91776779.html http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=8301269 I could go on...
I have no idea which state you live in, but I would be shaking the dust of that frigging place off of my boots, forthwith. At damned near 78, if asked for ID to buy a beer, that would be the absolute last time I ever set foot in that establishment, presuming I didn't get up and walk out first. No disrespect or offense meant to you, Sir.
My grandpa got his drivers license by filling out a form and mailing it in. He was driving long before driver's licenses were required. Back in the early 1900s, there wasn't a DMV like there is today. People in their 80s and 90s, and some in their 70s have a more difficult time because there wasn't a vital statistics department in all states or the families didn't register their birth with the vital statistics office. Some births were even recorded in family bibles, and that was used as proof of citizenship. A lot of these more elderly people were born during a time when there was no such thing as a social security card. I don't know how things work in your state, but I have a voter registration card. Once I applied for voter registration, I got a card in the mail. I show them my card and they mark my name off the list of registered voters. It would be a bit difficult for me to try and get everyone on my blocks voter registration card so I could cast more votes than one.
