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  1. Mr_Truth

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    Republicans have offered nothing constructive in their ideas or politics. All they do is attack and obstruct. Small wonder why they lost the recent election which is unusual in off year elections.
     
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    More bad news for Republicans -

    Healthcare plan enrollment surges in some states after rocky rollout
    Healthcare insurance enrollment increases in some states that run their own exchanges, boosting hopes of Obamacare backers.



    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obamacare-increase-20131119,0,6410053,full.story#axzz2lILVz3zZ



    WASHINGTON — Despite the disastrous rollout of the federal government's healthcare website, enrollment is surging in many states as tens of thousands of consumers sign up for insurance plans made available by President Obama's health law.

    A number of states that use their own systems, including California, are on track to hit enrollment targets for 2014 because of a sharp increase in November, according to state officials.

    "What we are seeing is incredible momentum," said Peter Lee, director of Covered California, the nation's largest state insurance marketplace, which accounted for a third of all enrollments nationally in October. California — which enrolled about 31,000 people in health plans last month — nearly doubled that in the first two weeks of this month.

    Several other states, including Connecticut and Kentucky, are outpacing their enrollment estimates, even as states that depend on the federal website lag far behind. In Minnesota, enrollment in the second half of October ran at triple the rate of the first half, officials said. Washington state is also on track to easily exceed its October enrollment figure, officials said.

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    The growing enrollment in those states is a rare bit of good news for backers of the Affordable Care Act and suggests that the serious problems with the law's rollout may not be fatal, despite critics' renewed calls for repeal.

    But the trend also emphasizes how widely experience with the new law varies by location.

    Fourteen states and the District of Columbia, covering about one-third of the nation's population, are operating their own Obamacare marketplaces and have their own enrollment websites. The others, including most states with Republican-led governments, have declined to do so, making their residents dependent on the malfunctioning federal site.

    In addition to better-functioning websites, many states that are running their own marketplaces also have significantly more resources to help consumers sign up for coverage.

    Many of the states that have declined to run their own websites have also refused to expand the joint federal-state Medicaid program, as the new law allows.

    Overall enrollment totals in states using the federal site were dismal in October, according to figures released last week by the Health and Human Services Department.

    For example, just 2,991 people successfully enrolled in health plans in Texas in October. That was fewer enrollees than in Kentucky, which has a sixth as many residents.

    Altogether, 106,000 people enrolled in health coverage nationwide last month, a figure far below administration projections.

    Nearly half of those who enrolled in October were in California or New York. Both states have continued to show growth in their numbers. In New York, enrollment has continued at roughly October's rate and stands at 24,509, according to state officials.

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    Even with the growing consumer interest in health insurance in many states, the new marketplaces created by the health law need millions more enrollees. The Obama administration aims to get 7 million consumers into health insurance plans in 2014 to ensure that the marketplaces have enough people to be sustainable.

    With fixes still being made to the federal website, it is unclear whether enrollment will catch up everywhere.

    White House officials repeatedly have said they hope to have the healthcare.gov website working for the "vast majority" of users by the end of this month. But spokesman Jay Carney said Monday that the administration also is working with insurance companies to allow consumers to bypass the troubled site and enroll directly with insurers.

    In California, Lee said Monday that the federal troubles have made enrollment more difficult even for states that use their own sites. State officials believe enrollment through Covered California has been depressed by media reports of problems with the federal site, Lee told reporters during a call organized by the consumer group Families USA.

    Covered California has had to change its marketing strategy to remind Californians that the state website is different from healthcare.gov.

    But while politicians in Washington, D.C., have been fixated on the website problems, many state officials are feeling considerably more optimistic about the law's long-term prospects.

    "We're going to ride all this stuff out," said Kevin Counihan, chief executive of Access Health CT, Connecticut's marketplace.

    Counihan, who worked for the marketplace that Massachusetts created after its trailblazing 2006 reforms, said he had been expecting even lower enrollment. Connecticut saw growing enrollment in November: 3,201 people signed up for health plans in the first two weeks of this month, nearing the 4,371 total for all of October.

    Enrollment has been even stronger in many Medicaid programs.

    About half the states have agreed to expand their Medicaid programs to most low-income residents in 2014. Under the law, the federal government picks up nearly the entire cost of that expansion for the first several years.

    Nationwide, nearly 400,000 new people qualified for Medicaid coverage in October, according to federal data. In Oregon, whose marketplace has been one of the few trouble-plagued state sites, the state reported that it had already signed up 70,000 new people for Medicaid.

    Officials nationwide cautioned that drawing firm conclusions about enrollment patterns was difficult at this early stage.

    "It's hard to know what normal looks like yet," said Bethany Frey, a spokeswoman for Washington state's marketplace, known as Washington Healthplanfinder.

    Many state officials say they think the biggest enrollment surge will take place after Thanksgiving. Consumers face a Dec. 15 deadline to sign up if coverage is to be effective Jan. 1.

    The open enrollment period under the law lasts until March 31, giving consumers an additional three months to select health plans in 2014.

    Experts also expect more people to sign up for coverage through 2014 as their circumstances change in ways that make them eligible to enroll outside of the regular enrollment period.

    "We are in the beginning of the first inning of a nine-inning game," Lee said.

    noam.levey@latimes.com






    Numbers are climbing every day!
     
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    Apparently all you have are bromides and platitudes. Lack of intellectual response noted.
     
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    I don't recall saying anything about "advantage" I said a mother or a father. That was quite clear.

    Reference for what, you admit a homosexual couple purposely denies a child either a mother or a father. You asked what is denied......DUH.
     
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    All you have is lies and hate.

    Deal with it.
     
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    exact headline quote: "75% say most Republicans in Congress don't deserve re-election" ... "21 percentage points higher than the 54% who say most Democrats don't deserve another term in office."

    So, by your 'methodology', 54% say that no Democrat deserves re-election! :roll:
     
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    .........according to Liberal doctrine. They seek to end the advancement of liberal progressives by shutting down stupid and ludicrous ideas. FDR started the push towards liberalism by introducing such things as Keynesian spending (deficit spending), welfare and the nanny state. Libs have been in charge since then. They have run our economy over the edge by progressive spending and not only maintaining the welfare state, but also expanding it. Now, it is required to belong to the nanny state, support it, and kneel to it. You do know that socialism has always failed, always. It is usually replaced with communism. Most socialists would argue that it isn't possible to resort to communism, but they actually fail to look back in history where those lessons lie.
    and this will change by the next elections. Obama is a failed leader and rock star. He has consistently lied about every damned thing.
    How does it feel to support a self-absorbed failure?

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    A radical ideological faction has recently arisen in the GOP that dismisses traditional Republicans as "RINOs!" and Democrats, as well as progressive, first world nations, as "Liberal!"

    Pragmatism necessitates reference to extant reality, not some Ayn Rand fantasyland.

    Norway, Australia, Netherlands, United States, New Zealand, Canada, Ireland, Liechtenstein, Germany, and Sweden have been rated the leading nations for quality of life. Of the ten, the US is, in many respects, the most conservative. (Consider universal health coverage or State-imposed death penalties as but two significant metrics.)

    If the irate ideologues can point to any actual, genuine nation they would proffer as a paradigm for their visionary ideal, what is it?

    There are nearly two-hundred nations on earth from which they can choose. Surely, they should be able to endorse one other than their Aynrandistan pipe dream.


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    Sign ups for ACA going higher every day, especially in California:



    http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/201...-old-signing-up-for-health-care-in-california


    In California, a state considered crucial to the success of the Affordable Care Act, older people are starting to enroll in the new health insurance marketplace in large numbers – as expected. But a demographic breakdown released Thursday of the early sign-ups suggests younger people are showing up in force, too.

    About 56 percent of the Californians who signed up for insurance in October are 46 or older, according to data released at a Sacramento board meeting of , the state's health insurance exchange. And nearly 23 percent of the enrollees are between 18 and 34 years old. Older people make up a higher percentage of enrollees than they do of the state's total population, while the proportion of younger enrollees more or less reflects their numbers statewide.

    Peter Lee, who directs California's insurance marketplace, says he is pleased at the number of young people who are already enrolling because it bodes well for the cost of California insurance premiums in 2015.
     
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    Well that would require you to read these things called books. Something internet liberals simply do not do.

    What separates fascism and Marxism is their their dialectic. Marx had a view of objective dialectic where the private would be absorbed by the public. Gentile the philosophical father of fascism believed in a subjective dialectic where where the public and private were a priori and one could not be absorbed into the other as they were both just parts of the state.

    Pardy rejects the objective dialectic of Marx and embraces the subjective dialectic of Gentile. Therefor, Pardy like almost all modern leftists is a fascist.
     
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    If there is not universal difference between what can be provided by a male parent and a female parent, what difference does it make whether a kid has two parents of the same gender or one parent of each gender?

    If a kid is not disadvantaged by having a second mother instead of a father (or a second father instead of a mother), then the fact that a kid is "denied" a parent of each gender is no more relevant than the fact that kids of heterosexual couples are "denied" a second parent of the same sex.
     
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    Please illustrate how "socialist" policies like public schooling, the military, and social security have resulted in communism.
    While you're at it, please explain why EVERY first-world democracy is not a communist state given that they all have socialised health care.
     
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    Are you talking about California?

    It should be good to know how many of those "young" subscribers are gay and have AIDS.

    Lets see how tax money is used to maintain the immoral alive... Lol
     
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    Did you seriously just insinuate that (a) most young people in California are gay, and that (b) AIDS and homosexuality go hand-in-hand...?

    I thought those baseless stereotypes died in the early 80s....
     
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    So having AIDS is a big joke to you.

    Well, thank you pal. You sure make your fellow right wingers look "good" with that one.
     
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    All that proves is that democrats are none too bright.
     
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    I will not vote for a Republican until Abe Lincoln come back fro the dead. Follow the link to my FB page below!!
     
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    OK, so the natural mother and father, in a stable, loving relationship, is best.

    The choice is whether the child in question gets homosexual parents or gets passed through a series of foster homes and state facilities.
    Which do you think is better?
     
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    I've asked this question so many times, in so many ways. I have never gotten a rational, reasonable response. They are so blinded by their fear and hatred that they can't see how ludicrous their position on adoption is. That hate gays more than they care about the kids. In fact they don't really care about the kids at all.
     
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    Socialism is about control of the private sector. First with communism where you had social ownership of the means of production. Later with fascism where the concept of control instead of ownership of the means of production was introduced.

    When you have string government regs about 3 types of insurance that can be offered, Gold, silver, and bronze. In a market that is kept small through regulation where only a few voices exist and they speak as one, in other words a corporate, what you have is fascism. The government has not taken ownership of health care but controls it through regulations and a small controlled corporate.
     
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    a hostile corporate takeover............all that money he desires to control I think the last number I saw was 7% of the nation's economy..........my o my, that's a bunch of bucks
     
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    That may be good for a cheap laugh but citizen republicans have always said none of them deserves to be re-elected. That's why it's so plainly obvious that every Republican in Congress is new.

    CNN... really??? Does Candi Crowley still work there?
     
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    socialism
    /ˈsəʊʃəlɪz(ə)m/
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    1. a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

    This applies, as I previously outlined, to services available to individuals which are paid for by the community at large via the government through taxes. Examples include (but are not limited to) public roads, public schools, the military, law enforcement, and social security.

    Please explain why every country with these "socialist" programs has not become a communist state.
     
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