'Knockout Game' Suspect Charged With Hate Crime

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  1. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

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    That "imagining a crime" (*)(*)(*)(*) does get people killed a lot, like in Florida where some thug with a gun figured anybody he didn't know was just as big a punk as he is.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    While overall the "knockout game" has not been shown to be racially motivated criminal behavior it unquestionably is in some cases as noted.

    The problem is with many "whites" (based upon anti-black racial prejudice) is that they use racial stereotyping in claiming that all of these criminal acts reflect anti-white racism by blacks but the evidence doesn't support that. They also ignore the fact that "hate crimes" are generally determined by local law enforcement agencies (as in this case) that have generally exhibited an anti-black racial prejudice according to many studies. Finally is the fact that the FBI statistics, reporting on race-based hate crimes from local law enforcement, indicate that per capita African-Americans are roughly 25-times more likely to be a victim of a racially motivated hate crime than a white person.

    We need only remember that someone with anti-black racial prejudice is going to go to extreme lengths to rationalize their anti-black racial prejudice and that has been the case related to the "knockdown game" that is universally condemned across the board by everyone as it is an invidious criminal act not based upon anti-white racism in the vast majority of cases.
     
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    Even charging it as a "hate crime" may be going a little overboard, but it is clearly a most heinous offense.

    It is, however, in my opinion, not on the same level as a grand cross burning in front of the local schools or a couple sticks of dynamite against the wall of a church while the Sunday School children's choir is practicing.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Actually, based upon racial stereotyping, he assumed that any young black person was in the neighborhood for nefarious criminal purposes and eventually he killed an innocent young black teenager because his racial prejudice and stereotyping lead to a physical confrontation.
     
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    GeddonM3 Well-Known Member

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    tell me, how often do we hear about that these days?
     
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    I agree, but while we have them its time we start using the legislation equally. If this had been white youths targeting black people it would have been called hate crimes without question. But this has been going on for quite a few years, and now its just started to be looked at as a hate crime even though its obvious the game has very racial ties.
     
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    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    Hate crime laws work, but only when they are against straight white males, because minorities can't be prejudiced in the same way.
     
  8. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

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    Really, how did the racist find out about it? Were the stories on Stormfront?

    How about Susan Smith was that story just told in Union, SC? Was the Charles Stuart case only told in the Boston Herald? How about the Central Park 5, how many years did they do in prison for a crime they didn't commit? How many nights did any of the Duke Lacrosse players spend in jail?

    What happened to the criminals in the Wichita and Knoxville massacres? Were any of those defendants arrested 45 days after they had committed those heinous crimes?

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    I agree with your post 100%.
     
  9. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

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    Is it a hate crime when these same black youth target innocent black folks? See the problem is you have to have evidence its a hate crime.
     
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    are you still talking ?
     
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    From looking at these "Knock out" crimes---which seems to always be one people of color attacking another people of color, or religion or perhaps sexual orientation---it seems that if the victim is a Jew or a gay, then yes a hate crime has been commited.
     
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    its very rare they target a black person first of all. secondly most of the victims are white and so far all of the aggressors have been black. there have been instances in which whites have been targeted and been called "cracker" or yelling "get that white (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)" and it was not listed as a hate crime.

    but hey, dont let me interrupt your 100% biased fantasy world where blacks targeting whites is not racist.
     
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    Lol, scary thing is, that's there is actually people who think like this.
     
  14. Gatewood

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    The irony is that until Sean Hannity of Fox news forced Al Sharpton's hand with his coverage of the Polar Bear Hunting game the prior week MOST leftwingers seemed to think that way, to actually BELIEVE that; "Hate crime laws work, but only when they are against straight white males, because minorities can't be prejudiced in the same way." Now that Al Sharpton has been forced to speak out against such thinking . . . only race-baiters now think that way. Sharpton just made that official.
     
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    The irony is that you are completely wrong.
     
  16. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That statement is not supported by the facts at hand.

    Most hate crimes are due to anti black bias, not anti white as you claimed.

    71.9 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-black bias.

    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2011/narratives/victims
     
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    Not according to Al Sharpton.
     
  18. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

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    How is that racism against whites when the criminals responsible are being charged.
     
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    You are aware that's because hate crimes against Whites are almost NEVER written up as hate crimes, yes?
     
  20. superbadbrutha

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    Is that why the criminal in NY was charged with one?
     
  21. After Hours

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    The ironic thing is that Hannity and the crew over at Fox are bigger race baiters than Sharpton.

    But then again, conservatives have always been the best at race baiting. Ronald "I believe in state rights" Reagan was elected president due to race baiting, which basically makes him the greatest race baiter that ever lived.
     
  22. Gatewood

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    When? You mean after three years of turning a blind eye to reality because nobody was supposed to accept that there could be such a thing as Hate Crimes against Whites? Sweet!
     
  23. Kurmugeon

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    So for YEARS these attacks have been going on,... But the Targets (victims? or did they "Deserve it!") were White Bubbas.

    So now the Black Thugs made the mistake of attacking Jewish people, and suddenly, SHAZAAAM!, its a hate crime!

    Go Figure.

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    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Am I aware that people make up statements based on preconceived notions of race?

    Yes, I am very aware of it.

    What does "written up" mean? The notion that bias crimes by blacks are not noted has to be one of the most ridiculous things I have read in a post in a very long time.

    So let's see how you are incorrect on this.

    20.9 percent were black

    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2011/narratives/offenders


    Yes, 20.9% of known offenders are indeed black. Now I am not sure how that translates to "almost never".

    But let's keep going.

    16.3 percent were victims of an anti-white bias.

    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2011/narratives/victims

    Yes, 16.9% of victims are the subject of anti white racism.Now I am not sure where your "almost never". Sorry, "almost NEVER".

    Your position does not seem to be supported by the facts.
     
  25. Gatewood

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    Actually when leftwingers collectively relabelled Brown-Hispanic George Zimmerman White so that they could falsely call the killing of Trayvon Martin a White versus Black killing, that was race-baiting on a massive scale by the entirety of the Left . . . as lead by Barack Obama, Jessie Jackson, and Al Sharpton. "Trayvon could have been my son," Would NOT have been uttered if the Left had KEPT George Zimmerman in the category of a Brown man.
     

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