Part 9 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

I thought he had you on ignore?? Like...forever, and ever...Amen.

 

He does.
I don't have him there, though.

 

Strikes me as a justification for Bullsh*t.

 

Ahhh,,..I don't think I've encountered too many people that revel in their irrationality as this one does. There seems to be a Bible passage to cover every irrational contradiction that he's confronted with. So when confronted by his own illogical assault on reason, just reach for the Bible to bail your ass out.

 

Evidently you are now, because you do not know what an Ape is.

 

Show us irrefutable "PROOF" of what an Ape really is.

 

Ape

Hominoidea

Are you done wasting my time with semantics?

 

Hey dude... all you have done is supplied two links to the opinions of other people. You didn't even add a single word of your own in explanation of that information. Do you have a complete and irrefutable comprehension of all that is said on those two websites?

 

No need to reinvent the wheel. Do you need a manual and or proof on how to wipe your ass?

 

Just send me a picture of yourself and that is all that would be needed for me to accomplish that task.

 

Sure, I'll send you a picture of and Ape.

 

Well where is it?

 

Let me give both of you a thorough explanation.

Genesis 1:1 NAS states, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
So what do you think the heavens consists of? Let me tell you, the heavens consists of stars, galaxies, etc. Actually, the Hebrew phrase translated "heavens and earth" refer to the entire created universe.

Gen. 1:2 NAS, goes on to say, "And the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep; and the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters."

The earth was dark because of thick clouds covering the entire earth. This fact will be important to understand the next few verses.

Gen. 1:3 NAS, then God said, "Let there be light, and there was light."

Where is the light? It's on the surface of the earth for the first time. Where does the light come from. The text does not say directly, but it gives a lot of clues. Did God create the light? No! If God had created the light, the text would have said so, like it does in the rest of Genesis one. It says that God "let it be." Let's read the rest of the first day to get the clues.

"And God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness. And God called the light day and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day."---Gen 1:4-5 NAS

The text says that there was day and night on the earth on the first day. This tells us that the light that was shining on the earth was directional...from one source. So let's put it all together. God created the earth with a thick layer of clouds around it that caused it to be dark.

When God said "Let there be light" it is most logical to conclude that God removed at least some of those thick clouds so that light would fall on the surface of the earth. Where did the light come from?

The Sun shining on a rotating earth. You might protest, "But the text never said God created the Sun." It actually does. As stated previously, the Hebrew term "the heavens and the earth" in Gen. 1:1 refers to the entire created universe.

So, the Sun, stars, moon and earth were all created at the beginning of day 1.

Now let's go to day 4.

Gen. 1:14-18 NLT, then God said, "Let great lights appear in the sky to separate the day from the night. Let them mark off the seasons, days, and years. Let these lights in the sky shine down on the earth. And that is what happened. God made two great lights, the sun and the moon---the larger one to govern the day, and the smaller one to govern the night. He also made the stars. God set these lights in the sky to light the earth, to govern the day and night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good."

It is rather obvious here in this passage of day 4 we can again logically conclude that God removed the thick blanket of clouds covering the entire earth so that great lights would appear so now the sun, moon, and stars can be visually seen in the sky as viewed from the earth.

So in conclusion the sun was created on day 1 and not on day 4.

 

There is NO mention of a "thick layer of clouds" ...none. Also it says SPECIFICALLY that on the Fourth Day "God made two great lights, the sun and the moon"....on that Day, not Day One.

You can't just DENY what is written....and then ADD stuff that isn't even in the Bible (not even an interpretation, actually ADDING new material) and say that "solves the contradiction". It doesn't.

Clearly the Bible says God made the Sun, Moon, and stars on the Fourth Day. It's right there in the quote. Which means it's also true He created the plants on the Third Day.

No Sun?....the Earth is at about -250 Celsius (interstellar cold) and all the plants die.

 

The Earth was formed after the sun, not the other way around. Keep trying to fit that square peg in the round hole.

 

Funny how "logically conclude" means "You have to add stuff to the Bible to make it work", isn't it???

 

What are you using as a reference material for that statement?

 

Why do you insist on reinventing the wheel?

The accepted age of the Sun is greater than the Earth. Please, if you have some ground breaking evidence that suggests otherwise, do present it.

 

Oh I see. You are using the speculative age based on mathematics which is not conclusive with regard to reality. At least according to Einstein. Do I need to provide that quote to you again?

 

You have no ground breaking evidence that suggests otherwise. Got it. Just more silly and stupid games to play.

My original sentence stands. The Sun is older than the Earth.

 

Then show your "proof" as defined at www.thefreedictionary.com/proof definition #1 (the very first definition listed).

 

Thank you for resorting to the worthless tactic of getting to a dictionary in pathetic attempt to derail the point that you have no ground breaking evidence top suggest that the Sun is younger than the Earth.

Hence the book of genesis is wrong. This would be that the god the bible is speaks of is fallible. Since this is the case, then the god the bible speaks of, cannot exist.

We can see why you must try and resort to silly dictionary games,

 

Hence you have no 'proof'. Now you are trying to change the goal posts by switching from "semantic games" to "dictionary games". Well, look again at that definition I provided for the term "semantics". It also includes the meaning of words... which by the way come from ... that's right.... dictionaries.

You are also now attempting to lean on the Bible for an excuse but you have in the past rejected the teachings of the Bible. You really do need to make up your mind regarding which side of the fence from which you are participating.

Since you have emphatically stated that the book of genesis in the Bible is "wrong", then again, I must ask "where is your "proof" that the book of genesis is wrong"?

 

Yet another post as a smoke screen because you have no evidence stating that The Sun is younger than the Earth.


Once again, if you have some earth-shattering evidence that the Sun is younger than the Earth, please do state it. Otherwise my statement:

stands

 

Yes indeed. Yours is the smoke screen. When asked to show "proof" of your claim, you back peddle and run for the hills. You cannot support your argument with any type of "PROOF". You lose. Your argument not only does not stand, but it faltered and fell flat on its face when you don't provide that "proof".