Anyone remember Bob Mcdonell?

Watch the first and second segment of Rachel Maddow and you will find out; http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show

 

Yet that does not seem to be what they are charged with: The indictment alleges a lot of irrelevant facts. They are charged with a handful of counts of receiving things; a handful of counts of using interstate wire system as part of receiving those things; and a handful of counts of lying or obstruction of justice related to trying to cover up those things as I stated. If you look at the last page of the indictment, other than trying to make them pay for the intangibles, they are seeking to make them surrender some golf equipment and items of clothing and accessories.

 

A handful of indictments? 14 felony charges is a handful? Okay, I see where your part of the argument is going; nowhere fast. They are charged with receiving gifts in exchange for promoting a product for receiving those gifts. It's not hard to understand. Again, trying to spin this to take it somewhere else, isn't going to do you any good.

 

They are not charged with violating Virginia law. Virginia law allows this other than the reporting issues so thus the conflict of laws issues. Yes a handful of indictments. Given the alleged violations, they should have had thousands of "using the interstate communications" system indictments and thousands of "inducing commercial transaction" indictments the way some are trying to portray their acts when they have 4 or 5 of each and some obstruction of justice charges. I am not trying to "spin" this, but have an interesting conversation about it, but this far your left wing spin is neither interesting or conversational.

Should anyone who actually has something to say that did not come from Rachel Maddow or the democratic underground read this, which should trump--the actual Virginia ethics rules or the generic federal statutes they use for the "We don't like you" prosecutions? This sort of tactic is sometimes used in securities cases as well. The feds exempt certain securities from registration but then use the interstate communications nonsense to prosecute people when they don't like what happened as a result of their exemption because someone dared to use a telephone once in discussing these otherwise exempt securities.

 

Citing Rachel Maddow? yeah, because liberals would take criticism directly citing Coulter very seriously.

Republicans actually care about this stuff, once the full story is out. Rly, Republicans are essentially forced to resign when they have a sex scandal, Democrats are lauded.

 

I have no interest in making the conversation interesting. It is what it is. By the way you, can find more information believe me other than Rachel Maddow on this. You can inject as many conversational variables that you wish, but prosecutors made charges, they think they can prove their case that these gifts were directly tied to bribes, and that's it. No interesting conversation needed.

 

Ummmm no that havent and you really do not want to bet me do you! I would suggest watching what you type.

 

I did. She looks like a real B to me. She reminds me of Romney's wife with her 'holier than thou' attitude. Glad to see those two fall. I just hope they do time, and not wiggle their way out of it (paying fines or some such). Start throwing these corrupt creeps in jail, and MAYBE, the arrogance of the rich, power craving scumbags will begin to subside. MAYBE.

 

Thing is, the feds believe they can prove he accepted these gifts, in exchange for political favors. Strange though, that the state of Virginia (who is supposed to be known as the 'we're not NY', or one of those other corrupt places that the less moral thrive, kind of place), would be so lax with their gifts for politicians to begin with. Just goes to show you the hypocrisy does indeed run through, and through, no matter where.

 

That too, and since he was a former Attorney General, it's gonna be kind of though for him to say "Gee, I forgot about reporting that". I've been waiting for this self righteous, indignant hypocrite to down down for months. It certainly took long enough but I'm glad to see it. I hope there are many more to follow. Maybe snag some other corporate wheeler, dealers along with him as this all plays out. Some rich creep hiding in the shadows that somebody drops the dime on during the fed investigation. Oh, happy day.

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Exactly. Pointing the finger at everybody else while enriching himself and abusing power. Typical hypocrite.

 

That's cause nobody takes that dude seriously. He's on FOX.

 

Maybe, but don't count on it. Money and power, once they get a taste, is the venom that rules their world. Corporate america got themselves a big taste, and they're not giving it up either. No matter what they have to do to keep it. Legal or illegal!

 

Well, I hope it's publicized to death over time, should that happen. I don't doubt that that's a possibility though.

 

I wish the Feds hadn't waited until Bob and his family moved out of the Governor's mansion before dropping the indictments on him.

 

I think they made a deal to keep it 'hush, hush' until after the election (that the democrat won anyway).

 

What a load of garbage.

Remember Vitter?

 

That is pretty obvious. Maybe Rachel will have something new for you this evening. In the meantime, to be so guilty, one would think they could come up with something better than "They are bad people who used a telephone and cashed some checks that were legal under the state law, but we don't like that Virginia does things differently, so we will charge them with 5 counts of telephone call making; 5 counts of check cashing; and 4 counts of not yielding to our agenda."

 

It's going to get lot's of traction. I suspected when I first heard about it, it eventually would. The right kept ignoring it, but now it's in their faces. Bob Mcdonnell, presidential material; . Yea right!

 

Bribery isn't a universally accepted practice for all Republican governors yet but, they're obviously working on it.

 

it sounds like it is bad for him but let's wait until he is convicted

Well said

see above

We could gone down a list the is full of pieces of (*)(*)(*)(*) from both sides.

 

All the more so since McDonnell was a protoge of Pat Robertson!

 

You forgot to finish your sentence. "They are bad people who used a telephone and cashed some checks that were legal under the state law, which ended up being illegal when that money was accepted as a bribe to promote a product by the governor and his wife for the product to be sold commercially".

Speaking of Virginia doing things differently; what does that exactly mean anyway? That certain laws are meant to be broken, and only some get handed a wrist slapping while others have to do the full time and pay the full fines? I didn't know Virginia's laws meant something different for Virginia.

 

I am hoping that people like Liberty University/Jerry Falwell types get exposed for their support of Governor Ultrasound. Liberty was involved in pressuring the indicted criminal to mandate forced ultrasounds and they supported him along the way. Hope they do down too.

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More right wing hypocrites. They seem to flock together, and collectively point the finger at everyone else, telling them how bad they are. I love seeing these creeps fall.

 

And that would prove Trollani's post false:

Agreed?