Obama Birth Certificate - Analysis of Key Facts Surrounding the Document

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  1. LogicallyYours

    LogicallyYours New Member

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    Sure they don't. Why is it the Stock Market is reached it's highest levels during this administration?...Why have the last 4 year been the best ever for major industries? Why is it, you're too stupid to know none of that would be possible if Obama was a Communist?

    Come back when you grow a brain.
     
  2. Libertarianforlife

    Libertarianforlife Well-Known Member

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    Why is the labor participation rate lowest it's been in 50 years? Why are the number of people on food stamps doubling under his presidency? You speak of "best 4 years" for major industries?" Ironically, that also lines up with the 4 years of high unemployment. Surprise surprise, when a company hires fewer workers, it posts a higher profit. No (*)(*)(*)(*) sherlock! What would we do without partisan blind Obama dick sucking liberals to tell us everything is peachy in candyland?

    So to use your own words, grow a brain and learn what "labor burden" means.

    http://www.sleeter.com/supplemental/articles/Labor_Burden_Gilson.pdf

    The "stock market" is being artificially inflated by something called quantitative easing. Its basically a gov't funded ponzi scheme. Read about it.

    http://investorplace.com/2012/12/beware-the-qe-asset-bubble/#.Uvo-VWJdV8E

    The stock market has been at its highest with every subsequent president. That means nothing. You forgot to mention it took 5 years for Obama to bring the stock market to the same level it was under Bush. So that would mean, had Obama NOT been voted in for a second term, we could easily say the stock market was higher under Bush than under Obama. The stock market is doing good despite Obama, not because of him.

    Come back after you've removed the liberal blinders.
     
  3. birddog

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    Calling me stupid is laughable considering the level of your comments, and how your username is an obvious oxymoron!
     
  4. LogicallyYours

    LogicallyYours New Member

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    Derp...drool.....

    So, tell me....how could have all those industries and companies had such good years...made some much money, if Obama was a Communist?

    Want to rethink your vacuous claim?
     
  5. Libertarianforlife

    Libertarianforlife Well-Known Member

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    "As bond yields have now contracted to the point where they barely yield anything, people look for interest income in other securities. They move into dividend-paying stocks. They also move into equities in general to hunt for capital gains to replace the lost yields. The result is an artificial rise in the prices of stocks — increases in stock prices not due to earnings growth or the execution of the companies in question, but simply because money is fleeing other assets."

    Obama could be a jellyfish and the economy be doing better.
     
  6. SFJEFF

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    Birthers are lying, non-transparent anti-Constitutional gullible POS and those who promote them should apologize to all real Americans.
     
  7. scott e.

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    he is a jellyfish. man o war... to be specific
     
  8. birddog

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    Typical liberal, dumbass response! :roll:
     
  9. SFJEFF

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    Well to be fair- I was responding to a typical Birther dumbass statement.
     
  10. leftysergeant

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    Got proof that you get any other kind of certificate from Hawaii these days? You just made the counter-intuitive statement. Up to you to prove it.
     
  11. birddog

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    Non-sensible ignorance like yours is just that! Whatever you say the "rules" are regarding destroying an original document, it seems to be only a convenient excuse for illegality.
     
  12. toddwv

    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hahaha... you do realize that most of America laughs at the birthers now, right?

    That link doesn't contain new information? It's just the same rehashed birther garbage that they've been using for the past what? 6-7 years now?

    Just because I create a new blog post with the same garbage, doesn't mean the garbage is new.
     
  13. toddwv

    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure, we all believe that. That's why Ted Cruz was given the birther stamp of approval almost immediately.

    Please. Nobody listens to birthers except other birthers unless they need a good laugh.
     
  14. birddog

    birddog New Member

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    Your gullibility and willingness to be duped is sad and pathetic!
     
  15. SFJEFF

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    That is hilariously ironic coming from a Birther.
     
  16. birddog

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    I doubt you are capable of recognizing true irony!:roll:
     
  17. yguy

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    Not so, as if he's ineligible, every federal statute enacted since W left office is constitutionally null and void.

    As for the BC, the perception of its authenticity rests on the credibility of the handful of people who have seen the original filed with the state, all of them presumably DoH employees. Said credibility became open to question when the late DDoH Fuddy claimed to have discretionary authority to issue a certified copy of the long form to Obama when under the relevant HI law she was obligated to do so for any registrant who paid the fee.
     
  18. Locke9-05

    Locke9-05 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure why you're disagreeing with the above statement, I said his place of birth would be the only thing dictating whether or not he should be prosecuted (in terms of his eligibility for presidency--which includes any actions he's taken as president), I didn't elaborate on what all he could/should be prosecuted for if concrete evidence exists that he is not eligible.

    I don't disagree with this.
     
  19. rahl

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    nope. the only mechanism for removing a sitting president is impeachment. any and all acts which took place during his term in office would of course remain in full effect unless repealed.
     
  20. yguy

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    If that's what you meant to say, fine, but it's not what you did say.

    You do understand that what I said has implications far beyond any personal consequences to Obama, right?
     
  21. SFJEFF

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    If any President were to be found, after being elected, confirmed and sworn in, to be ineligible, then he would still be President until Congress impeached him, and under the defacto officer doctrine, all actions taken would be legal until he or she was removed.

    As with all Birth certificates, there is an assumption of authenticity that must be overcome with evidence.

    The persons who have publicly confirmed that they have examined the original, and that the original shows that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii are:

    Dr. Fukino, Director of Health, Republican, appointed by Republican Governer Lingle, who examined Obama's BC at the governers request
    Loretta Fuddy, Director of Health, Democrat, appointed by Democratic Governer Abercrombie, who examined the BC when Barack Obama made a special request for a certified photo copy of his original Birth Certificate.
    Dr. Alvin Onaka- Registrar of Records- civil service employee

    Information is available here

    http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/faq-obama/
     
  22. Locke9-05

    Locke9-05 Well-Known Member

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    Yes I did. I said:

    That's exactly what I said... And you're saying it's not what I said yet it might be what I "meant to say..." How do you figure? Now what he would then be prosecuted for is a different line of thought entirely, but I think your initial inaccurate interpretation of my post caused your line of argument to suggest that I was simplifying the charges or implications of what it would mean if the President were actually ineligible for Presidency. I made the self-evident statement that the place of birth is what is in question and the answer to that question--whether it's been honestly provided or not--is what dictates whether or not he should face the types of charges your argument seems to be suggesting.

    Herp derp. Yes. You're overanalyzing my original post and interpreting it inaccurately. Don't try to deflect with attempted condescension.
     
  23. birddog

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    All that says is that they cannot or will not show his true, original BC!
     
  24. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Key facts re: Obama's birth certificate:

    - 38% believe that the US has found clear evidence in Iraq that Saddam Hussein was working closely with Al Qaeda.

    - 31% believe that Iraq gave substantial support to Al Qaeda but was not involved with the September attacks while an additional 15% believe that Iraq was directly involved in carrying out the September 11 attacks.

    - 26% believe that Iraq had WMDs just before the Iraq War.

    - 16% believe that WMDs were found in Iraq.

    Read more at http://themoderatevoice.com/121921/...with-911-attack-persists/#PMI6v4pOZOvglIWt.99

    A large percentage of Americans will believe crazy (*)(*)(*)(*) regardless of how undeniable the factual evidence disproving it.

    That is the key fact.
     
  25. birddog

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    Throughout history, often the majority were wrong. Take the practice of medicine for example.
     

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