Navy releases map showing location of fleet positions during Benghazi attacks

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  1. ErikBEggs

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    Conservatives need to get the (*)(*)(*)(*) over Benghazi.
     
  2. Yosh Shmenge

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    What goes for Leon and Barry goes equally for their many military advisers as well.

    NONE of them were prescient wizards, able to foretell how long the attack on our compound would go on, and therefore NONE were able to declare "We'll never be able to get our forces there in time". Any suggestion by you to the contrary IS weak and not worthy of comment or discussion.
    Frankly, you don't even seem to try to make serious points here.
     
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    So Bush had the same info and did nothing. This happened on Bush watch so he is responcible what was Clinton supposed to do exatly when he was out of office? Maybe he should have ran a thrid term. We wouldnt still be cleaning up the Bush Republican mess.
     
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    In my opinion this is the right answer. The Destroyers and oilers and command ships were too far away and they do not have the right weapons for this kind of fight. One has to wonder why the ships were where they were that day.

    The unanswered question is why the aircraft on alert in Italy were not sent aloft in the first 30 minutes of the attack. They could have arrived on station in about two hours. Then 30-50 minutes later better armed aircraft could have arrived. Instead, nothing was done, several people died who might not have, the US looked stupid, weak and foolish.And the Marxist in office looks more and more like an active enemy of the US.

    Hmmm, I wonder if he would be on the president's kill list to be destroyed by an unmanned aerial system firing a Hellfire missile...He has harmed the US more than Al Qaeda's destruction of the trade center towers and the Pentagon. It just took him a little longer and we just might not recover from the damage the One has done to us.
     
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    I'm sure they will when everyone involved is held accountable.............including Hillary.
     
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    "The map shows all effective help to have been at least several hours away....It does not address help from US bases in Italy, who could have been on station in a couple of hours if tasked."

    Explain your statement, please. JIMV correctly said hours.

    I understand the differences in our Constitutions. You prefer Hamilton's version. Constitutional Conservatives prefer the one that was actually ratified. The rest of your chatter was interesting. No. Really, it wasn't. So, if you can, explain just the part of your statement about hours apparently being minutes. If you can.
     
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    What exactly did you expect Bush to do in less than 8 months that Clinton couldn't accomplish in 2 years? Be specific.
     
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    As long as the regime stonewalls and their minions pretend nothing serious happened we will not discover why the Regime bungled and will probably bungle again.
     
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    Based on the PowerPoint slide the aircraft carriers would have had a tough time getting to the targets in time to make any difference. I do not believe the aircraft carrier was in the position it was shown in. Still it shows the value of having on aircraft carrier battle group per chokepoint. That is more battle groups than we have. Under the Marxist soon one will have to visit a museum to see aircraft carrier battle groups at all.

    The answer lies in Italy.
     
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    I can imagine. Four million conservatives stayed home. I am beginning to think it was the right thing to do. The US is going down fast. When the nation crashes, I want it to be unmistakingly the fault of the Marxist.
    And interestingly, so do you.
     
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    I have to assume that "you people" refers to the liberal political elites? They have to lie because they could not get elected if they told the truth about what they stand for and what they intended to do to the nation and to the nation's people.
     
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    Was Hillary questioned under oath?
    Has Obama been questioned under oath?
     
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    I am not a right winger but I am a Constitutional Conservative. I served for 20 years. Military Intelligence. It may be a different military now. There were not that many liberals in the military. Times change.
     
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    That's easy. Who received warnings of numerous security incidents? Who not only didn't increase security, but REDUCED it? Who exactly was Secretary of State on 09/11/2012?
     
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    The attack lasted about eight hours.

    Ships could have responded, but they would not have helped.

    We receive intelligence pretty darned quickly. Of course we have to actually be looking for it. The NSA was probably too busy monitoring my phone calls to bother with such mundane, routine things like an ambassador being murdered. If unarmed aircraft, or aircraft improperly provisioned for a ground fight is all you have then launch them and develop the situation. The next pair in the air can have a better weapons load out.
     
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    Keep working on different angles....eventually you'll find nothing....but keep working on it anyway.
     
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    If you had ever bothered to follow the day to day, week to week, month to month series of events and all the players and policy decisions that were made other than by her, way before this attack ever occurred, you wouldn't be asking these questions. You never bothered researching all those details, and it's not likely you ever will. Why? Because you do not want to know.
     
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    of course you're an enemy of the country and want it to fail

    in reality, the usa is a capitalist stronghold
     
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    Based on this stunning revelation one would assume actual intelligence at work here.
     
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    The main damage had been done in less than 90 minutes; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9iO8ZCq3R8
     
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    But then you post rhetorical nonsense like this.
     
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    Just flying over and breaking glass could have changed the timeline.Engagements usually occur with neither side fully aware of what assets the others have enroute. Add fear, uncertainty and doubt by responding with what you have. Then properly provision follow on forces for the real fight. There should have been air cover from a few hours after the Stevens and Smith were killed until we had at least an additional reinforcing platoon on the ground.

    Instead, we did absolutely nothing.
     
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    Unless you count the two who died in the last hour of the battle about seven hours after the first attack on the compound. What do you think the main damage was and when do you think it occurred.
    In my opinion the main damage occurred when the US did absolutely nothing.

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    You don't have to like it. In fact, given what I have seen from you just in this thread of messages alone I am not surprised. You like the Marxist.
     
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    there's a distinct possibility that not over-reacting prevented a huge blow up
     
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    I respectfully disagree. Bill apparently acted every time he even remotely had a chance. In fact, one of his targets accused him of rape.
     
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