Navy releases map showing location of fleet positions during Benghazi attacks

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  1. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    Yes...good old president Droney McGitmo.
     
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    I honestly thought they were joking.....but they werent
     
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    ah yes one of my favs. Ever see the one where those guys were hiding....well hang on
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGYV3JirmyA
     
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    [video=youtube;AHTOuAXAs6A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHTOuAXAs6A[/video]

    If Hillary Clinton's State Dept had paid attention to the deteriorating conditions in Benghazi and got the Navy to move the U.S.S. New York from the south Red Sea to off the coast of Benghazi there could have been 4 of these attack choppers over the Benghazi mission in a matter of minutes as well as a ground contingent of Marines to escort them all to safety. Too bad we didn't have a Secretary of State with that kind of leadership ability.
     
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    Looks to me more like the so called conservatives are on the down side of the learning curve on that one.....at least on this thread.
     
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    Okay, so now you are saying Obama was actually involved and told Panetta to do everything possible. And all this time people claimed he was in bed asleep. Thanks for reminding us he was involved after all. And yet, you say he should be impeached. That makes no sense.

    Because that is exactly what he did. I still go back to the captain Phillips movie. Panetta and our military were doing the same thing. They just didn't have enough time. I've noticed for quite some time with your juvenile name calling of the president and others, that your logic is driven by hate. Once your argument becomes a little more diluted, then you begin with the silly names. If you were to set hate aside and use logical deductive reasoning for a change, you might begin to stay with the debate. But you are too obvious with this insane hate of yours.

    I think my last couple of statements speaks for these last few by you. Your out of control hate has gotten the best of you.
     
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    neither did the 241 americans in lebanon
     
  8. Professor Peabody

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    How big was that Embassy? 241 assigned personnel plus the Ambassador. Somehow that doesn't sound right link to an embassy that large please.
     
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    But wait a minute. I thought all the Benghazi experts like Wehrwolfens on this forum were actually there and that's how they new so much more than the rest of us on this forum?

    I agree! This Benghazi nonsense has been such an unbelievable circus, it's hard to believe grown people can actually believe the amount of BS they keep bringing up. And most of the time if you will notice, it's some of the same old repetitive broken record nonsense. Why they are not totally embarrassed of themselves, I haven't a clue.
     
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    I do not know if anyone else has pointed this out that none of the warships on that diagram that were within reasonable and realistic range of Benghazi, that is, within the Mediterranean, carry any organic ability to have responded to the attack short of a cruise missile strike on the compound.

    As for the other resources in the area, in order to reposition either of the two Carrier Groups would have taken several hours, if not days. Pointing out where the replenishment ships and the minesweepers were doesn't prove a damn thing. In fact, an oiler in combat is a pyrotechnic show waiting for a match, and a minesweeper will be little more than driftwood after an attack, they carry very limited weaponry, and all of it is self-defensive in nature.
     
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    I am not so sure that is a good idea. When the Soviet Empire crashed the same commies grabbed all the goodies and a good bit of the people blamed anyone but the commies for the resulting pain.
     
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    They are politicians...'Under Oath' meant zip during the Clinton Follies and both could pass a lie detector while lying non stop....
     
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    Didn't Lerner say she did nothing wrong then promptly take the 5th?
     
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    It has been addressed, but for some reason, republicons seem to have a problem grasping that sort of thing, probably because they have such limited military training themselves.

    The few military people they do have seem t go along with it just to strengthen their positions if they decide to run for office latter. Gotta keep the war profiteers on their side, come fund raising time.
     
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    Sending Rice out to lie a week later is not 'the nation reacting'......

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    About 470 miles from Sigonella...but wait, military aircraft fly faster than that every hour.....
     
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    Is breaking the law to get your folk elected really wrong? Only when conservatives do it....
     
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    Hillary Clinton's State Dept had up to 6 months to prepare for the attack in Benghazi. The amphibious assault ship U.S.S. New York was at the south end of the Red Sea. Clinton's State dept could have requested the New York and it's attack helicopters position itself offshore in Benghazi well in advance of the 9/11 attack. But, that's not what happened is it? I think Hillary Clinton simply doesn't have the "right stuff" to lead the whole country as President, hell she couldn't even get it right within the State Dept.
     
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    Air power in this scenario would not have helped. Who do you attack if a) you cannot see them and b) how could you be certain you would not be causing injury or death to friendlies?
     
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    None of the warships could have made it there in 4 to 6 MONTHS! That's how long the State Dept had with all the security incidents taking place.

    Are you saying after all this Hillary Clinton's State Dept had no time to coordinate with the Military and the Libyan Government to protect the Consulate in Benghazi with the deteriorating security conditions? Really?
     
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    From a AH-1 Super Cobra it would have been easy to spot the hostiles given the lay of the land.
     
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    Moot. You didn't have any deployed anywhere near Benghazi.
     
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    So you mean they made a pork barrel spending bill that ultimately did nothing. Yes, we already know how Democrats operate. Financial illiterates. If Bush 'followed' up with more spending(and he did, the DHS). That would(and did) hear Democratic complaints.

    The Democratic Party of America: "We hate spending, unless we're the ones doing it."
     
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    Correct, THAT'S THE POINT!. Why wasn't there any deployed considering the security issues since Dec 2011? The same idiot that was in charge of the State Dept at the time is the same person the Democrats want for President in 2016........THAT IS THE POINT!
     
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    Thats it isnt it.?

    There was zero back up for an Ambassador in the most dangerous place in the world on the anniversary of Sept 11....

    A country controlled by Al Queda....

    Where al queda had made threats and actually carried out those threats on the Red Cross, and the British Embassy....
     
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    How much 'back-up' is enough? The Benghazi Embassy was attacked by up to 150 people. You cannot plan for every contingency unfortunately.
     
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