food stamp use among military rises again

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  1. Riot

    Riot New Member

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    Yes lies just like all other campaign promises. Like transparency
    Like no lobbyist
    Like bills sitting one his desk for five days.
    Like gitmo
    Like non bid contracts to Haliburton
    Like Obama care
    Like not raising taxes on the middle class
    Like the NSA
    Like wistle blower he promised to protect.
    Like stoping federal funds to colleges that don't lower cost
    Like his promise to have annual state of the union address.
    Like his promise to lower tax rates for factories in the US
    Like his promise for veteran job corp
    Like his promise to eliminate oil and gas loophole tax rates.
    Like his promise to extend childcare tax credits
    His promise to have a foreclosure protection plan.
    His promise to end income taxes for seniors making less than $50,000.00 a year
    How many more of his lies do you need.
    How about his promise to have an immigration bill by the end if the year. How many years ago was that?
    How about his promise not to sign the NDAA. You know the one his lawyers wrote.
    The man is a liar.
    To stay on topic where is his veteran work corp he promised? That sure would help these guys. Nowhere because he just said it to get elected. Lied to get his hands on lobbyist money and power.
     
  2. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course, but that's not really where I'm coming from. There are only 4 ways to put food on your plate: theft, taxation, labor, or charity. I am only prepared to exercise the latter two. The left is prepared to exercise the latter three.

    I don't see how this makes me some sort of evil person, I reject taxation to pay for meals for the same reason the left rejects theft. It's really the most elementary of disagreements.
     
  3. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    you should get a grip on reality, it's the gop that wants food stamps cut


    you're projecting your own situation


    "Frankly, the Obama administration was more transparent about this effort than we were in the Bush administration,"

    - General Michael Hayden, NSA director under former president George W. Bush
     
  4. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lucky you.

    My service friends tell me this isn't true anywhere around here.

    But why bother with the military people now? You got YOUR goodies so screw 'em, right?
     
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    Agreed.

    But libs have to face the reality that the welfare baby and food stamp president SOLD YOU OUT.
     
  6. Mac-7

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    Rather than provide food stamps for welfare queens who never wore the uniform or served in combat why not raise the pay of young patriots who are serving on active duty?

    It's the dems ho want to cut funding o the military and screw the soldiers.
     
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    Obviously this is only part of the story.

    The definition of family for example. Some sources report a growing number of single parents within the military, in fact some have encouraged single moms to enlist because of the great benefits and child care.

    Another unexplained part is the growth of military families in general.

    There is a little known rule in the military which basically requires a single enlisted person to ask for and recieve permission from his or her commander before getting married. It is little known because it is never invoked any more. It was not very long ago that it was enforced.

    A few decades ago it was normal for senior enisted personnel and officers to be married while most rank and file enlisted personnel were single. There are many reasons why this changed not the least of which is the military specifically began trying to recruit more people by making enlisted service more attractive to young married people.

    Several years ago it briefly made national news when the Marine Corps very seriously considered prohibiting marriage among jr enlisted personnel. They intended to require Marines to delay marriage until they reached the rank of Sgt. The idea made sense since that allows a few more years to build maturity and a stable income. It was mainly public outcry and congress which pressured the Marine Corps to drop the proposal. The leadership of the UCMJ felt they could make it work and still get a stronger and more capable corps as a result.

    Probably the entire military would benefit from such ideas. The resistance would come from congress and liberals who treat the military as a lab for societal experiments and as a jobs/welfare training program. Ironically limiting marriage within the military would also benefit the tax payer.
     
  8. dujac

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    how does any of what you wrote, excuse not taking care of needy families?


    nobody sold me out, you're making up fairy tales again
     
  9. Riot

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    What? What have they been transparent about? The NSA nope.
    The. IRS nope.
    The drone program nope
    The non bid contracts to Haliburton nope
    This has been the worst in transparent administrations.
     
  10. dujac

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    the former director, under the previous gop administration, says you're wrong
     
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    We are talking about this administration. Stay focused. Did Obama come clean about the level of spying? Nope. Did clapper lie to congress and the American people. That isn't transparency
     
  12. dujac

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    try to get a clue

    "Frankly, the Obama administration was more transparent about this effort than we were in the Bush administration,"

    - General Michael Hayden, NSA director under former president George W. Bush
     
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    What administration did he lie under? And how transparent was he before he was busted?
     
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    I don't really see the utility in making this about any one President. Obama is a pretty hardline hawk when it comes to executive privilege and confidentiality. But that has been the case with most Presidents. I think the issue goes far beyond party politics - what matters is that all Presidents conceal the truth, and that the decision on what needs to be exposed and what needs to remain secret should be made by the people.

    My suggestion is a civilian panel, formed using the same process as Grand Jury, empowered by Congress to determine what whistleblowers need to be protected, what information needs to be revealed, and privy to just about everything the government does. All decisions must be made by the group, via democratic vote. I have far more trust in the ability of the average American to sort out what needs to be secret and what doesn't than I do our Congressional leaders.
     
  15. dujac

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    it's too bad you won't take my advice and get a clue
     
  16. Riot

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    It's too bad you have done nothing on this forum that is honest. Obama licking of his boots
     
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    Yes, if you're a junior enlisted with 2 or 3 children, you may need supplemental food assistance.

    The Basic Allowance for Subsistence or BAS as it's referred... is meant to offset the cost of meals for the enlisted and officers. ,BAS is not intended to cover the costs of meals for family, hence the need for Federal supplemental food assistance also if there are more mouths to feed.

    The enlisted get $352.27 a month as part of BAS, at least as of 2013.

    Obviously if you have a family, that's not going to cut it when combined with a base pay of only around $1,700 a month for an E-2; around $20,400 annually.
     
  18. dujac

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    i posted the exact quote, with a reference, honest

    all you did was reply with looney questions
     
  19. Durandal

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    This fiscal conservative would like to see the military budget (and the military itself) significantly reduced, and of course see the petrodollar wars brought to an end.

    I suppose, though, that you think the thousands employed by the military should all be given more taxed and borrowed money, eh? Cause, gosh, that's so much better than letting these poor deceived dopes go get food stamps, which of course are ultimately funded in the same ways.
     
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    you're not very good at making suppositions


    funny

    "I want to create a White House that is more transparent and accountable than any government agency we've seen before," Obama said while campaigning in 2008.


    "Frankly, the Obama administration was more transparent about this effort than we were in the Bush administration," said Michael Hayden in 2013
     
  22. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Then why are you calling out fiscal conservatives? Did you think they would support spending even more on the military?
     
  23. dujac

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    the op makes it pretty clear

    some might, but i doubt it
     
  24. MickSpeed

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    "allowing military families to have problems feeding their families?"

    What a strange phrase?
     
  25. dujac

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    how is it strange?


    Troops reach out for help feeding their families

    Hundreds of financially strained military families in the Washington area are lining up for turkeys and free groceries this holiday season, depending on the USO to help put food on the table.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/troops-reach-out-for-help-feeding-their-families/2011/11/22/gIQAQDtXpN_story.html
     

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