Republicans won't let Benghazi go . . .

Thank you for proving there was no "stand down" order, confirming my posts proving the Fox lie.

So back to the beginning. Why are you relying on Fox News which you've now confirmed lied about Benghazi?

 

no Fox did not lie they reported what was told to them by a government official they did not make up a stand down order
again your playing a silly game of word semantics
the premise of the report remains the same an order was given not to go and help

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it wasn't a surprised attack there was plenty of indication an attack was going to happen

 

In Oppressive translation, Fox did what good journalist do, report the news.

Once again, the only thing that has been proven is that Fox reported what Obama, Rice and Clinton said--- the lies are all theirs.

 

Good journalists don't intentionally and repeatedly lie and then change their stories without notice like Fox.

Just my view.

[quiote]Once again, the only thing that has been proven is that Fox reported what Obama, Rice and Clinton said--- the lies are all theirs.[/QUOTE]

Fox's "stand down" was a lie.

 

It was the anniversary of 9/11...there had been rioting going on already,he blamed it on a 'video'


there was NO surprise

 

Be truthful....it's more than your 'view'...it's your opinion.....based on nothing..

Fox's "stand down" was a lie.[/QUOTE]

 

Nope. It is the view of the bi partisan Senate Intelligence Committee after a year long investigation. Though the fact that Fox changed its story without notice is a matter of record.

 

Ahh,you have citation then?

And since when has fox been obligated to tell viewers when they 'change a story'?

 

Of course.

The Committee explored claims that there was a "stand down" order given to the security team at the Annex. Although some members of the security team expressed frustration that they were unable to respond more quickly to the Mission compound, 12 the Committee found no evidence of intentional delay or obstruction by the Chief of Base or any other party. ... The Committee has reviewed the allegations that U.S. personnel, including in the IC (Intelligence Community) or DoD, prevented the mounting of any military relief effort during the attacks, but the Committee has not found any of these allegations to be substantiated.

http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/benghazi2014/benghazi.pdf

Just what honest journalists do, IMO. When you print a story and it contains false information, you at least should note the error and the correction, if credibility is important.

Fox, as it has done in the past, made a factual error in its reporting. And when the undeniable proof showed it was false, they simply changed their story as if they had never published the falsity.

 

Instance?...and getting a story wrong isn't 'lying'

 

Anyone can verify for themselves how Fox changed its story without notice in its "stand down" lie. The proof is here: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=302698&page=26&p=1062631107#post1062631107

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Fox's initial story claiming "stand down" was false, and they repeated this charge over and over again, at best, not having any credible evidence to support it.

A flat out lie. No one was ever told to "stand down". And certainly not the only one: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=339618

So tell me. If you credit Fox News, why in your view did DOD command order people to "stand down" if they could have helped at Benghazi? You figure Special Ops Command just didn't care if people died and were negligent? Or do you figure that Special Ops command really wanted the men dead and used the attack as opportunity to have them killed?

 

It turned out, it very well could have been the video according to the bipartisan senate committee investigation. And Bush had warnings of 9/11 as well; http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html?_r=0

 

Good point. From the bipartisan report of the Senate Intel committee:

It remains unclear if any group or person exercised overall command and control of the attacks or whether extremist group leaders directed their members to participate. Some intelligence suggests the attacks were likely put together in short order, following that day's violent protests in Cairo against an inflammatory video, suggesting that these and other terrorist groups could conduct similar attacks with little advance warning.

Another Fox News lie.

 

I think in all likelihood it was an attack that was very loosely organized for many months, and executed when the tactical situation was ideal. The leader of the militia responsible for the attacks is on the record saying that he could crush the compound easily - which infers that they had at the very least looked into the security arrangements there, and found them utterly lacking (which they were). Also worth nothing is that the militia that carried out the attacks was responsible for security in that very neighbourhood, which means that they had plenty of time to gather intelligence, make some contingency plans and then wait for the right moment.

As per usual, it is extremely difficult to sort through the partisan nonsense, and also as per usual, the truth almost certainly lies in the middle. I believe that the video played a part in the attack - it was the momentum that pushed the militia from the planning stage to the action stage.

 

Right......Libyans had all access to the internet....come on,use your brain.


And were there jets flying around the WTC threatening to crash?

He had no actionable warnings...Owebama however..

 

It's all they have got.

 

So Some intelligence also does NOT suggest that,right?

I wonder if you can read...

 

That is not a necessary logical inference. The fact that some evidence suggests one thing does not mean that there exists other evidence suggesting something else.

Why do you wonder that?

Speaking of ability to read, why did you dodge my question?

So tell me. If you credit Fox News, why in your view did DOD command order people to "stand down" if they could have helped at Benghazi? You figure Special Ops Command just didn't care if people died and were negligent? Or do you figure that Special Ops command really wanted the men dead and used the attack as opportunity to have them killed?

 

I never avoided any question...and if you think a bunch of technology deprived terrorists got their knickers in a twist over an internet video......

 

Are you of the opinion that terrorists don't make heavy use of the internet?

Because it is common knowledge that they do. I would be very surprised if you weren't aware how much social media has been used as a recruiting tool for extremist groups.

 

Four men died! The Hildebeast and The Kenyan should be in prison! Not comparable to other incidents.

 

When did you answer this one:

So tell me. If you credit Fox News, why in your view did DOD command order people to "stand down" if they could have helped at Benghazi? You figure Special Ops Command just didn't care if people died and were negligent? Or do you figure that Special Ops command really wanted the men dead and used the attack as opportunity to have them killed?

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No actionable warnings? You mean other than the multiple attacks by Al Queda in the years prior to 9-11 and the intel saying that they were planning attacks on NY and federal buildings and hijacking aircraft?

 

Never said 'attacks on New York' and hijacking planes up till then didn't mean flying them into buildings

 

The common 'foot soldier' terrorist no.....all they need is a faith based network of mosques....The college educated,wealthier terrorists,however,are another story..

I'm not trying to infer they all are stuck in the 12th century..

 

Fair enough. However, I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that the wealthier, college-educated terrorists made this video available to the other extremists as a propaganda tool.

Keep in mind that I'm not defending Obama here. I'm just saying that I think what really happened is that the terrorists were loosely planning this attack for some time, they were gathering intelligence about the compound and drawing up ideas, and then the video gave them the ideal reason to strike.