Why do blacks in America think that the Democrats actually care about them?

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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    Nonsense. Ike sent in troops to desegregate the schools that democrats segregated. Progressives at the time were busy with eugenics.

    Leftists have always seen people as property. That is why you are fine with big taxation and big spending. Fine with abortion. That is why progressive Woodrow Wilson was happy to get an income tax on the American public so he can drag us into a war we had no business in and show his white brethren how Anglophile he was. Also, progressive Wilson celebrated the revival of the klan.

    Your unions were also racist and yet you celebrate their history. Why is that? Why when we talk about the unions do we give them credit for things they didnt do and gloss over all the black people they cracked in the head with clubs so they could force their employer into paying them more? Do you think it is right to beat black people so they can't get the job you want? Then why not speak out against the horrible racist history of progressive unions? Why is it always the republicans history of treating people equally that upsets you so much? Has the Republican Party ever done anything as hateful to black people as the afl CIO you all love?
     
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    Progressives wanted equality, Conservatives wanted to maintain Segregation.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    Yeah about 3 like I said. 1000s remained. Then republicans took over the south gradually and racism and problems declined her at about the same rate. Now all the race riots are in democrat run towns. As they always have been. Hate crimes are also more prevalent in democrat towns and FBI crime stats back up everything I have said and yes per capita too.
     
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    Black Americans aren't stupid. They know which party has their best interests at heart.

    Thats why they have been solidly Democrat/Progressive since FDR.
     
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    But what happened in 1964 was relevant then, right now, Republicans are trying to disenfranchise blacks with voter ID laws.
    Right now, the Democrats have a black president in the White House.
    Right now, 30% of black males in Florida are disenfranchised by felon disenfranchisement laws.
    Right now, all the black people in the House and Senate are Democrats.

    So right now, black support of the Democratic party is overwhelming, because of things that are going on right now.
    In 1865, black support of the Republican Party was overwhelming, because of things that were going on in 1865.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    Nonsense! When have the progressives wanted equal treatment under the law? Name the year. Don't go to far back, you will get to eugenics, don't go with the present, they pass laws that discriminate by race all the time today. Discrimination is a core principle.

    Also, why dodge every question? If I limited it to one would you answer and not deflect?
     
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    Bullsh-t. The French Revolutionaries were extremely liberal in one way, and extremely closed minded in others. Get it through your head that the terms "liberal" and "conservative," other than as convenient placeholders and shorthand only in the -now-, can be twisted around any old way, making their usefulness nil in describing any real political history or ideologies. They are way too vague and imprecise.

    So Locke's (Jefferson's/Paine) political theory, arguably an intellectual anchor of the Enlightenment, of strong property rights and extremely limited government is liberal? So as a liberal you support strong property rights and highly limited government? You never told me you were a Tea Party member, imagine that! Since Jefferson was a strong Lockean, naming him as a liberal puts you right up there at the front of the Tea Party rally. So tell me, when you and your fellow liberal Tea Party members conduct your liberal rallies and reference Lockean ideals of government, what do you personally put on your placard? Maybe a coiled snake or a large block text "COMMON SENSE?" Do you talk about Thomas Paine at your liberal Tea Party rallies? Because I've seen lots of TPers referencing his work. Somehow, I don't see lots of TP reference to Burke. Hmm. I would have thought that someone like you would claim that the TP was a conservative, not a liberal outfit. Oh well, stranger things have happened. Who will be your liberal tea party candidate of choice in 2016?

    See?It is indeed Very Easy... and stick a fork in you. I'll come up with an even better switcheroo next time, maybe I'll have you claiming Sarah Palin is a liberal or something equally amusing. Stay tuned.

    The only thing I'm sure of is that trying to use the convenient short hand terms "liberal" and "conservative" as politically ideologies in themselves, especially in attempts to explain the past, deflect from historical behavior of political parties, or replace one false propaganda narrative with another, is moronic.

    Hmm, so you are a godly tea partier, not just a tea partier. Gotcha. As far as Jesus, "no man cometh unto the father but by me?" Sounds pretty conservative. "Render unto Caesar?" that sounds kind of conservative. That first plank of whatsit's purported "foundation of conservatism" is belief in god. I think Jesus probably qualifies as a believer, wouldn't you agree? Myself? I'm an atheist, so right off the bat your own "authority" disqualifies me from the "foundational conservative ideology." Oh crap, a lot of your personal insults and invective against me hinges on me being blinded by my conservatism... damn, did all your crap just fly out the window? And I am pro-abortion to boot! Ouchie.

    Trying to shoehorn "liberal" and "conservative" as foundational ideologies is a fool's errand. The end. If you wrote books trying to do that, well I hope you got your advance up front.

    Vapid, obvious strawman noted. The terms are very useful... as shorthand in the NOW. I've stated and restated this over and over. Keep squirming in the fallacies.

    You aren't making your case, just stating conclusions. Wilson -is- admired as a liberal and the father of progressivism. There are -many- conservative elements in JFK and LBJ's actions. Hitler was -not- far right wing, Mao was probably the most "liberal" political leader of the 20th century, but surely had conservative elements in his regime. My conclusory statement is that trying to categorize historical figures as "liberal" or "conservative" for partisan narrative purposes is erroneous and a fool's errand, and I stand by that as unrefuted.
     
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    1964 and onwards.

    Progressives freed the slaves, gave them the right to vote, and ended Segregation.
     
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    Felons can vote in FL. Two of my employees are former felons and it took 5 minutes to get their rights restored.

    Why do you think laws against felons are discriminatory against blacks?

    The only black senator is a republican.

    You guys ran racist attack ads against black conservatives. Allen west with a gold tooth punching old white women. That is the democrat party for you. If that as was run by republicans against Obama you would never stop talking about it. Want to see it?
     
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    So why do you think that blacks choose the Democrats, by a 19 to 1 margin?
     
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    Progressives revived the klan, started eugenics and tried to exterminate black people. Those are facts are they not?

    Progressive feel free to take the fruits of another mans labor don't they?

    Progressives fight for discrimination under the law today, isn't that correct?
     
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    Propaganda and terror. Democrats since blacks could vote punish blacks that vote republican. Used to hang them, now they ostracisize them and calm them racists and uncle toms. Only about 5% of the populace is tuned in to what is going on and I bet the republicans fare well among that group of blacks. We have thomas sowell and Walter Williams I will take that for now. Keep Obama.

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    Wait, why do you think democrats think blacks can't carry IDs? Walk me through that logic.
     
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    What?

    You actually believe that the Blacks vote for Democrats, because the party terrorizes them if they don't?
    How does that work? Don't they have secret ballots?

    Look, there is something called the donkey vote, it means that in an open free election, no candidate should get 100% of the vote, if the Imperial Wizard of the KKK ran for office, there are some black people who would vote for him, not many, maybe not even 5%... but some would.
    Lets assume for a moment that black people are rational actors, that they are free to vote however they want to vote in the secrecy of the voting booth, and that they have the intelligence to realize that.

    So why do they overwhelmingly vote for Democrats?
     
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    Basically I'm "butt hurt" (do you play the same orc and elf games my 12 year old nephew plays? What level is your wizard?) about a false leftist propaganda race narrative for 50 years. No one likes to be lied to over and over for decades. Any inconsistencies or even extremism in the non mainstream backlash to mainstream pummeling of a lie narrative for decades is understandable in that context.

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    Maybe you should ask the IRS agents who zealously overaudited Dr. Ben Carson that question.
     
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    The problem is conservatives think the Republican party of today was actually responsible for liberating the slaves and championing the civil rights movement. Then they go out of their way to wave that in the face of blacks that know better. Democrats AND Republicans voted for AND against civil rights based on geographic location. Southern Democrats and Southern Republicans are the same damn thing.

    Blacks vote Democrat mostly because the GOP is a party of stiff old white men that spend more time criticizing the black community than helping it. When's the last time a GOP politician was caught in the inner city slums mentoring black youth?

    Also, cut back on the damn vitriol. People like Paul Ryan just don't help with their comments. The GOP reeks of pure hatred towards the poor, which are disproportionately black.
     
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    How dare you impugn the integrity of the party of tolerance and inclusion!!!

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    Top Racist Democrat Quotes
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    Posted on 4/1/2010 9:09:21 AM by laotzu

    "I think one man is just as good as another so long as he's not a n*gger or a Chinaman. Uncle Will says that the Lord made a White man from dust, a n*gger from mud, then He threw up what was left and it came down a Chinaman. He does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race prejudice, I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, Yellow men in Asia and White men in Europe and America."

    -Harry Truman (1911) in a letter to his future wife Bess

    "You cannot go to a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian Accent." -Senator Joe Biden

    Mahatma Gandhi "ran a gas station down in Saint Louis."

    -Senator Hillary Clinton

    Some junior high n*gger kicked Steve's ass while he was trying to help his brothers out; junior high or sophomore in high school. Whatever it was, Steve had the n*gger down. However it was, it was Steve's fault. He had the n*gger down, he let him up. The n*gger blindsided him."

    -- Roger Clinton, the President's brother on audiotape

    "You'd find these potentates from down in Africa, you know, rather than eating each other, they'd just come up and get a good square meal in Geneva." -- Fritz Hollings (D, S.C.)

    "Is you their black-haired answer-mammy who be smart? Does they like how you shine their shoes, Condoleezza? Or the way you wash and park the whitey's cars?"

    -- Left-wing radio host Neil Rogers

    Blacks and Hispanics are "too busy eating watermelons and tacos" to learn how to read and write." -- Mike Wallace, CBS News. Source: Newsmax

    Black on Black

    "In the days of slavery, there were those slaves who lived on the plantation and [there] were those slaves that lived in the house. You got the privilege of living in the house if you served the master ... exactly the way the master intended to have you serve him. Colin Powell's committed to come into the house of the master. When Colin Powell dares to suggest something other than what the master wants to hear, he will be turned back out to pasture." -- Harry Belafonte

    "Republicans bring out Colin Powell and J.C. Watts because they have no program, no policy. They have no love and no joy. They'd rather take pictures with black children than feed them." -- Donna Brazile, Al Gore's Campaign Manager for the 2000 election

    (On Clarence Thomas) "A handkerchief-head, chicken-and-biscuit-eating Uncle Tom." -- Spike Lee

    "He's married to a white woman. He wants to be white. He wants a colorless society. He has no ethnic pride. He doesn't want to be black."

    -- California State Senator Diane Watson's on Ward Connerly's interracial marriage

    Comments From The Past

    "Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."

    -- Former Klansman and current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the "conscience of the Senate", in a letter written in 1944, after he quit the KKK.

    "I am a former kleagle of the Ku Klux Klan in Raleigh County and the adjoining counties of the state .... The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia .... It is necessary that the order be promoted immediately and in every state of the Union. Will you please inform me as to the possibilities of rebuilding the Klan in the Realm of W. Va .... I hope that you will find it convenient to answer my letter in regards to future possibilities."

    -- Former Klansman and current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the "conscience of the Senate", in a letter written in 1946, after he quit the KKK.

    "These laws [segregation] are still constitutional and I promise you that until they are removed from the ordinance books of Birmingham and the statute books of Alabama, they will be enforced in Birmingham to the utmost of my ability and by all lawful means."

    -- Democrat Bull Connor (1957), Commissioner of Public Safety for Birmingham, Alabama

    "I'll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."

    -- Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One according Ronald Kessler's Book, "Inside The White House"

    (On New York) "K*ketown." -- Harry Truman in a personal letter

    "There’s some people who’ve gone over the state and said, ‘Well, George Wallace has talked too strong about segregation.’ Now let me ask you this: how in the name of common sense can you be too strong about it? You’re either for it or you’re against it. There’s not any middle ground as I know of." -- Democratic Alabama Governor George Wallace (1959)

    On Jews

    "You f*cking Jew b@stard." -- Hillary Clinton to political operative Paul Fray. This was revealed in "State of a Union: Inside the Complex Marriage of Bill and Hillary Clinton" and has been verified by Paul Fray and three witnesses.

    "The Jews don't like Farrakhan, so they call me Hitler. Well, that's a good name. Hitler was a very great man. He rose Germany up from the ashes." -- Louis Farrakhan (1984) who campaigned for congresswoman Cynthia McKinney in 2002

    "Now that nation called Israel, never has had any peace in forty years and she will never have any peace because there can never be any peace structured on injustice, thievery, lying and deceit and using the name of God to shield your dirty religion under his holy and righteous name." -- Louis Farrakhan who campaigned for congresswoman Cynthia McKinney in 2002, 1984

    'Hymies.' 'Hymietown.' -- Jesse Jackson's description of New York City while on the 1984 presidential campaign trail.

    "Jews — that's J-E-W-S." -- Democratic state representative Bill McKinney on why his daughter Cynthia lost in 2002

    On Whites

    "I want to go up to the closest white person and say: 'You can't understand this, it's a black thing' and then slap him, just for my mental health."

    -- Charles Barron, a New York city councilman at a reparations rally, 2002

    "Civil rights laws were not passed to protect the rights of white men and do not apply to them." -- Mary Frances Berry, Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights

    (I) "will not let the white boys win in this election." -- Donna Brazile, Al Gore's Campaign Manager on the 2000 election

    "The old white boys got taken fair and square." -- San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown after winning an election

    "There are white n*ggers. I've seen a lot of white n*ggers in my time." -- Former Klansman and Current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the "conscience of the Senate" in March of 2001

    "The Medicaid system must have been developed by a white male slave owner. It pays for you to be pregnant and have a baby, but it won't pay for much family planning." -- Jocelyn Elders

    The white man is our mortal enemy, and we cannot accept him. I will fight to see that vicious beast go down into the lake of fire prepared for him from the beginning, that he never rise again to give any innocent black man, woman or child the hell that he has delighted in pouring on us for 400 years." -- Louis Farrakhan who campaigned for congresswoman Cynthia McKinney in 2002, City College audience in New York

    "There's no great, white bigot; there's just about 200 million little white bigots out there." -- USA Today columnist Julienne Malveaux

    "We have lost to the white racist press and to the racist reactionary Jewish misleaders." -- Former Rep. Gus Savage (D-Illinois) after his defeat 1992

    "White folks was in caves while we was building empires... We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it." -- Rev. Al Sharpton in a 1994 speech at Kean College, NJ, cited in "Democrats Do the Dumbest Things

    "The white race is the cancer of human history." -- Susan Sontag

    "Reparations are a really good way for white people to admit they're wrong." -- Zack Webb, University Of Kentucky NAACP

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    The Republican Party of today guts the enforcement provision of the Voting Rights Act. Black folks aren't blind.
     
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    History Of The Democrats And The KKK.....(Why the Democrats started the KKK)
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    Posted on 8/6/2009 11:59:36 AM by IrishMike

    The original targets of the Ku Klux Klan were Republicans, both black and white, according to a new television program and book, which describe how the Democrats started the KKK and for decades harassed the GOP with lynchings and threats.

    An estimated 3,446 blacks and 1,297 whites died at the end of KKK ropes from 1882 to 1964.

    The documentation has been assembled by David Barton of Wallbu More..ilders and published in his book "Setting the Record Straight: American History in Black & White," which reveals that not only did the Democrats work hand-in-glove with the Ku Klux Klan for generations, they started the KKK and endorsed its mayhem.

    "Of all forms of violent intimidation, lynchings were by far the most effective," Barton said in his book. "Republicans often led the efforts to pass federal anti-lynching laws and their platforms consistently called for a ban on lynching. Democrats successfully blocked those bills and their platforms never did condemn lynchings."

    Further, the first grand wizard of the KKK was honored at the 1868 Democratic National Convention, no Democrats voted for the 14th Amendment to grant citizenship to former slaves and, to this day, the party website ignores those decades of racism, he said.

    "Although it is relatively unreported today, historical documents are unequivocal that the Klan was established by Democrats and that the Klan played a prominent role in the Democratic Party," Barton writes in his book. "In fact, a 13-volume set of congressional investigations from 1872 conclusively and irrefutably documents that fact.

    "The Klan terrorized black Americans through murders and public floggings; relief was granted only if individuals promised not to vote for Republican tickets, and violation of this oath was punishable by death," he said. "Since the Klan targeted Republicans in general, it did not limit its violence simply to black Republicans; white Republicans were also included."

    Barton also has covered the subject in one episode of his American Heritage Series of television programs, which is being broadcast now on Trinity Broadcasting Network and Cornerstone Television.

    Barton told WND his comments are not a condemnation or endorsement of any party or candidate, but rather a warning that voters even today should be aware of what their parties and candidates stand for.

    His book outlines the aggressive pro-slavery agenda held by the Democratic Party for generations leading up to the Civil War, and how that did not die with the Union victory in that war of rebellion.

    Even as the South was being rebuilt, the votes in Congress consistently revealed a continuing pro-slavery philosophy on the part of the Democrats, the book reveals.

    Three years after Appomattox, the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, granting blacks citizenship in the United States, came before Congress: 94 percent of Republicans endorsed it.

    "The records of Congress reveal that not one Democrat � either in the House or the Senate � voted for the 14th Amendment," Barton wrote. "Three years after the Civil War, and the Democrats from the North as well as the South were still refusing to recognize any rights of citizenship for black Americans."

    He also noted that South Carolina Gov. Wade Hampton at the 1868 Democratic National Convention inserted a clause in the party platform declaring the Congress' civil rights laws were "unconstitutional, revolutionary, and void."

    It was the same convention when Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest, the first grand wizard of the KKK, was honored for his leadership.

    Barton's book notes that in 1868, Congress heard testimony from election worker Robert Flournoy, who confessed while he was canvassing the state of Mississippi in support of the 13th and 14th Amendments, he could find only one black, in a population of 444,000 in the state, who admitted being a Democrat.

    Nor is Barton the only person to raise such questions. In 2005, National Review published an article raising similar points. The publication said in 1957 President Dwight Eisenhower, a Republican, deployed the 82nd Airborne Division to desegregate the Little Rock, Ark., schools over the resistance of Democrat Gov. Orval Faubus.

    Further, three years later, Eisenhower signed the GOP's 1960 Civil Rights Act after it survived a five-day, five-hour filibuster by 18 Senate Democrats, and in 1964, Democrat President Lyndon Johnson signed the 1964 Civil Rights Act after former Klansman Robert Byrd's 14-hour filibuster, and the votes of 22 other Senate Democrats, including Tennessee's Al Gore Sr., failed to scuttle the plan.

    Dems' website showing jump in history

    The current version of the "History" page on the party website lists a number of accomplishments � from 1792, 1798, 1800, 1808, 1812, 1816, 1824 and 1828, including its 1832 nomination of Andrew Jackson for president. It follows up with a name change, and the establishment of the Democratic National Committee, but then leaps over the Civil War and all of its issues to talk about the end of the 19th Century, William Jennings Bryan and women's suffrage.

    A spokesman with the Democrats refused to comment for WND on any of the issues. "You're not going to get a comment," said the spokesman who identified himself as Luis.

    "Why would Democrats skip over their own history from 1848 to 1900?" Barton asked. "Perhaps because it's not the kind of civil rights history they want to talk about � perhaps because it is not the kind of civil rights history they want to have on their website."

    The National Review article by Deroy Murdock cited the 1866 comment from Indiana Republican Gov. Oliver Morton condemning Democrats for their racism.

    "Every one who shoots down Negroes in the streets, burns Negro schoolhouses and meeting-houses, and murders women and children by the light of their own flaming dwellings, calls himself a Democrat," Morton said.

    It also cited the 1856 criticism by U.S. Sen. Charles Sumner, R-Mass., of pro-slavery Democrats. "Congressman Preston Brooks (D-S.C.) responded by grabbing a stick and beating Sumner unconscious in the Senate chamber. Disabled, Sumner could not resume his duties for three years."

    By the admission of the Democrats themselves, on their website, it wasn't until Harry Truman was elected that "Democrats began the fight to bring down the final barriers of race and gender."

    "That is an accurate description," wrote Barton. "Starting with Harry Truman, Democrats began � that is, they made their first serious efforts � to fight against the barriers of race; yet � Truman's efforts were largely unsuccessful because of his own Democratic Party."

    Even then, the opposition to rights for blacks was far from over. As recently as 1960, Mississippi Democratic Gov. Hugh White had requested Christian evangelist Billy Graham segregate his crusades, something Graham refused to do. "And when South Carolina Democratic Gov. George Timmerman learned Billy Graham had invited African Americans to a Reformation Rally at the state Capitol, he promptly denied use of the facilities to the evangelist," Barton wrote.

    The National Review noted that the Democrats' "Klan-coddling" today is embodied in Byrd, who once wrote that, "The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia."

    The article suggested a contrast with the GOP, which, when former Klansman David Duke ran for Louisiana governor in 1991 as a Republican, was "scorned" by national GOP officials.

    Until 1935, every black federal legislator was Republican, and it was Republicans who appointed the first black Air Force and Army four-star generals, established Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday as a national holiday, and named the first black national-security adviser, secretary of state, the research reveals.

    Current Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice has said: "The first Republican I knew was my father, and he is still the Republican I most admire. He joined our party because the Democrats in Jim Crow Alabama of 1952 would not register him to vote. The Republicans did. My father has never forgotten that day, and neither have I."

    Barton's documentation said the first opponents of slavery "and the chief advocates for racial equal rights were the churches (the Quakers, Presbyterians, Methodists, etc.). Furthermore, religious leaders such as Quaker Anthony Benezet were the leading spokesmen against slavery, and evangelical leaders such as Presbyterian signer of the Declaration Benjamin Rush were the founders of the nation's first abolition societies."

    During the years surrounding the Civil War, "the most obvious difference between the Republican and Democrat parties was their stands on slavery," Barton said. Republicans called for its abolition, while Democrats declared: "All efforts of the abolitionists, or others, made to induce Congress to interfere with questions of slavery, or to take incipient [to initiate] steps in relation thereto, are calculated to lead to the most alarming and dangerous consequences, and all such efforts have the inevitable tendency to diminish the happiness of the people."

    Wallbuilders also cited John Alden's 1885 book, "A Brief History of the Republican Party" in noting that the KKK's early attacks were on Republicans as much as blacks, in that blacks were adopting the Republican identity en masse.

    "In some places the Ku Klux Klan assaulted Republican officials in their houses or offices or upon the public roads; in others they attacked the meetings of negroes and displaced them," Alden wrote. "Its ostensible purpose at first was to keep the blacks in order and prevent them from committing small depredations upon the property of whites, but its real motives were essentially political � The negroes were invariable required to promise not to vote the Republican ticket, and threatened with death if they broke their promises
     
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    Do you want to try to answer the question?
    Why do you think blacks vote for Democrats by a 19 to 1 margin?

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    So why do you think blacks vote for Democrats by a 19 to 1 margin?
     
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    Malcolm X speaks out about Democrats: You're a chump, a political chump.


    Anytime you throw your weight behind a political party that controls two-thirds of the government, and that Party can’t keep the promise that it made to you during election time, and you’re dumb enough to walk around continuing to identify yourself with that Party, you’re not only a chump, but you’re a traitor to your race.

    They try and pass the buck to the Dixiecrats. Now back during the days when you were blind, deaf, and dumb, ignorant, politically immature, naturally you went along with that. But today as your eyes come open, and you develop political maturity, you’re able to see and think for yourself, and you can see that a Dixiecrat is nothing but a Democrat in disguise.

    They’ve been down there four years, and they’re — all other legislation they wanted to bring up they brought it up and gotten it out of the way, and now they bring up you. And now, they bring up you. You put them first, and they put you last, ’cause you’re a chump, a political chump. - Malcolm X

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    You tell us. Why do lemmings walk off cliffs?
     
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    Ike was following a court order. Said naming Earl Warren to the court was the biggest mistake he ever made. Later, Republicans would try to impeach him.
     
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    Actually, in '32, about 75% of the Black vote went to Hoover, so they were not voting for the Democrat. In '36' FDR would win about 75% of the Black vote, representing one of the greatest shifts in voting in American history.

    Blacks tend to govern in communities with a struggling tax base, which leads to poorer schools, party affiliation does not. You think if they were Republicans, those communities would get wealthy? The poorest states in the union are generally red states.
     
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    Name one black conservative not labeled a racist or an Uncle Tom by the left. Just one name.

    The imperial cyclops of the KKK did run and got the majority of the black vote. He was a democrat named Robert Byrd.

    If you assume more then 10% of the population has any clue about politics after a generation of unions schools dumbing then down you assume too much.

    By the way, why don't you ever discuss the horrible racist history of the unions?

    Did you dodge me again in the paternalistic logic applied to blacks and voter ID laws? Why?
     
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    The Supreme Court that gave government the right to force sterilization on women in their Buck v Bell decision was dominated by conservatives.
     
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    I said it started with FDR. You countered with it started with FDR. Brilliant.

    All of the poorest states in the south were that way when Dems got kicked out correct? They are rising now with Florida and Texas being the fastest growing states correct? I mean currently is republican North Dakota, but since the switch. Are now demicrat run New York and California te states losing the most income? (They are)

    So tell me again why the tax base is the reason. Did Detroit not spend enough? Or did they lose sight on priorities and cow towed to the unions and dumb projects like auto world?

    Detroit was built under republican leadership by the way. It just tanked after cavanaugh and the Dems took over. But as far as opportunity goes, blacks are migrating from the north to the south now. They used to migrate from the south to the north when republicans ran it.
     

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