Dr. Ben Carson Schools David Gregory on Slavery and Neo-Marxist Movement

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  1. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    by Jim Hoft
    May 18, 2014


    NBC’s David Gregory went after Dr. Ben Carson today on Meet the Press (http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/carson-talks-obamacare-slavery-n108381) over his comments comparing Obamacare to slavery. Dr. Carson schooled him.

    [video=youtube;MxB6q3Kr5YU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxB6q3Kr5YU[/video]​

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    Read more:
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ry-on-slavery-and-neo-marxist-movement-video/

    David Gregory got schooled by Dr. Carson. Kudos to Dr. Carson. We know that Gregory would not have invited Dr Carson to his Obama out reach program unless it was to sandbag him. In this case it didn't workout too well. I don't believe Mr. Gregory will be featured on Meet The Press to much longer. He continues to lose viewer ship and screw up. One may place the blame on his producers, however, look at what they have to work with.
    Read: www.usnews.com/.../04/25/nbc-supports-david-gregory-for-meet-the-press
     
  2. Gatewood

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    Yep, David Gregory needs to go find something he's good at doing; because this isn't it:

     
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    Dr. Carson not only destroyed Gregory for being a liar, he then gave exact context for his comment and proved the point. Dr. Carson is incredibly intelligent, a leader, and has been highly successful at everything he has done in his career. This is the "best of the best" in America. He has made a difference for thousands of children.

    Wait for the Socialist Authoritarians "Liberals" to come in here and try and spin this in 3.... 2.... 1.....
     
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    I like how he tied Neo-Marxist literature directly into Obamacare and by implication with the Democratic Party leadership and Barack Obama. No muss, no fuss, no mucking around. Just BAM! It's done.
     
  5. liberalminority

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    Dr. Carson compares slavery and Obama care in a way that is not genuine because the government is taking away liberty to help people, by enslaving others for profits. So its not slavery where the poor are enslaved, its slavery where those who work are kind of enslaved in a way for charitable purposes.
     
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    Ben Carson said there were better ways to improve the healthcare system. Funny how Republicans didn't make any serious effort to do so, huh. The only one spinning is "Doctor Ben Carson".

    Maybe the Democrats should have stolen a page from the GOP playbook and presented no novel bills, but instead just sat back and criticized the bills of the opposition. But, who are we kidding -- the platform-free GOP is more into blocking and destroying than creating and improving.
     
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    The Democrats LOCKED Republicans out.

    I think you forget how this happened too quickly.
     
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    LOL, you get a double LOL for that one.

    So its slavery but its not slavery.

    And its an OK kind of slavery because its for charitable purposes.

    Then you wont mind if I take your house and make you work for free if I give your house to someone who needs a house more than you, and if I use your money for something charitable such as anti-abortion programs (remember, you don't get to pick the charity).
     
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    Its a bull(*)(*)(*)(*) straw man argument. Not being able to do anything you want to do at any time is something everyone deals with. Its not slavery. Do you know what a man who has that power is? An absolute dictator; because that is the only position where you have total freedom to do everything you might want to do, regardless of any societal barriers.

    Also, worst thing since slavery? Really dude? The way we treated the Indians all the way up until present day isn't worse? That is waaaaaaay closer to something you could compare to slavery than Obamacare too.
     
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    It doesn't matter how it happened, history and facts are irrelevant to progs. Besides, you can't expect them to keep up with all their lies so they don't know what happened anyway.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really. What healthcare reform bill did the Republicans present before Obama proposed his?
     
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    Is this the part where I'm supposed to say the marxists,socialists,communists were some of the first groups to support the civil rights movements after reconstruction?
     
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    Can someone please explain to me How aca
    Has anything to do with the actual Health Care and you get
    I understood it was only Health Insurance
    That would pay for Most of your Health Care

    And Mr. Carson needs to read up on slavery
     
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    They proposed a lot, but were not allowed to ever leave committee. You really don't remember? Let me help you:

    1. Competition Across State Lines
    2. Tort Reform for skyrocketing Malpractice Costs
    3. Triage with Urgent Cares next to ER's.
    4. Illegal Aliens treat and return policy to stop ER crashes. (They do this in most of the world)
    5. Subsidized insurance pools for the poor to gain inexpensive access to quality plans

    Funny how you Liberals don't know this stuff.
     
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    MOD EDIT - RULE 2 - Both show that you know nothing beyond what the MS Media spoon feeds you on a daily basis. Don't bother researching anything yourself, or go beyond your safe zones of Liberal sites. If you had, you would have read/heard of the "no Republicans allowed" meetings to draft the bill, or how the Democrats refused to allow any GOP amendments to the bill. I am even sure that you missed the CSPAN televised meeting with both parties leadership and the President. During the meeting, the President paid lip service to anything the GOP offered. In the end, the bill was pushed through just as the DNC drafted it. The GOP even offered their own alternative bill. The CBO claimed that the GOP would have accomplished all the goals that Obamacare was supposed to accomplish for far less cost. But in the end, the DNC refused to allow the GOP bill to get to the floor. So, now we have a law that was passed by only one party. The law has not accomplished any of the original goals, and is going to lead to the second industry bailout of the Obama Administration. More taxpayer dollars shoved into Corporation's pockets. Since the Administration loves the LGBT so much, I am sure that there will be some pocket pool involved.

    Btw, the GOP did complain about Hilary in 2011. You might not have heard that she ducked Congressional hearings for a long time. Then when she couldn't duck it any longer, she finally appeared. That was when she made her "what does it matter" statement.
     
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    LOL. I know that the Party of Destruction has proposed many bills to undermine the ACA. What I asked for are bills proposed by the GOP before Obama ran for President.

    It's easy to criticize solutions that are offered without offering any yourself. It's safe, but it doesn't solve problems.
     
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    That's ridiculous.

    The GOP never offered any substantive program. Just a series of disjointed individual thoughts, most of which did not tie together, and did not make much sense, except to the powerful interests who stood to profit.

    The offered up a whole truckload of lies and spin.

    And in the end, their predictions did not come true.

    Carson didn't "school" anyone. No one turned US health care over to "government bureaucrats" as Carson claimed.

    He is a fool, or he 's intelligent enough to know that and also intelligent to know that he can make lots of money and get lots of attention by saying idiotic things for the Fox Noise crowd.
     
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    No doubt!
     
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    I could go down the entire list, but it's a waste of time.

    Suffice to say, that all of these added together are nothing more than a bunch of disjointed ideas and talking points.

    But I especially liked the last one:

    That IS in the ACA. That's what the Medicare expansion that all those Red state types won't embrace does. So, now you're telling us that millions of people are paying more for insurance because Republicans won't embrace what you say is a Republican idea!

    Priceless!
     
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    It looks like Ben is auditioning for Clown Car 2016.
     
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    1. Competition Across State Lines - All the insurance rates will reach a national high rate for the most profits to companies.

    2. Tort Reform for skyrocketing Malpractice Costs - That protects Doctors who rush patients out to play golf.

    3. Triage with Urgent Cares next to ER's. - That will create tents outside the hospitals, it is similar to health care in war time.

    4. Illegal Aliens treat and return policy to stop ER crashes. (They do this in most of the world) - Undocumented workers will die in their homes rather than seek care to avoid deportation.

    5. Subsidized insurance pools for the poor to gain inexpensive access to quality plans - That is not free healthcare
     
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    its been attempted, but it becomes a states rights issue since each state has its own insurance laws and insurance companies will simply set up in the most advantageous place. there are all kinds of legal issue surrounding this plan as well. Its been tried as a "compact" between a couple few states and it died on the vine.

    Tort Reform doesnt mean trashing malpractice suits.
    It should mean a more reasonable and consistent arrival at judgements, a more cost effective method of adjudication, and stopping certain kinds of ridiculous class action suits where the lawyers wind up getting the lions share of the settlements.
    All good things, but since current malpractice litigation and settlements amount to less than 2% of overall costs, its not going to make a significant economic difference


    This is a very effective way of mitigating costs and improving emergency care by re directed "colds, sprains, headaches, flus etc." to an urgent care facility. this is encouraged in the ACA.

    While many are good ideas, they hardly amount to making healthcare and insurance more affordable and accessible. there is no incentive to improve quality, there is no regulation of pricing which leaves the problem of for example a titanium hip replace wholesale price of ^$400, being billed out at $12,000., there is no minimum standard of coverage, there is no incentive to reduce duplicate testing, and on and on.

    Besides which the Ryan Budget that congress passed was rather explicit as to healthcare reform. It proposed making medicare a voucher system. That apparently was the republican grand vision for healthcare, the ultimate screwing of the american people.
     
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    Dr Ben Carson didn't school anyone.

    He completely misrepresented what the ACA is.

    IT IS NOT GOVERNMENT CONTROL OF THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY.

    It is INSURANCE REGULATION. the consumer still has lots of choices.
    The private for profit hospitals are still private for profit. Doctors will still earn excellent incomes. Medical supply industry is still for profit.

    Carson's hyperbole is nothing more than that. Inflated misrepresentation designed to evoke emotional responses. Apparently he is a Luntz disciple - its not about what you say its about what they hear.
     
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    Carson seems smart enough to know that there's money and celebrity in reading the Fox talking points.

    His last couple of rants were obviously written by Roger Ailes.
     
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    I get a kick out of the way he keeps repeating the idea of subsidizing insurance for the poor.

    That's in the ACA too.

    That's what the Medicaid expansion does. But, his "Republican idea" has been rejected by Republican politicians across red state America.

    It's the finest kind of irony.

    A far right winger advocating an Obamacare idea without apparantly even knowing it!
     

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