Why are racists so afraid of being labled racist?

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  1. saintmichaeldefendthem

    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    It only matters if you're a white racist. According to Obama's DOJ, if you're a white racist, you're evil, but if you're a minority racist, your ok. You can even have a Black Panthers gathering at white voting places and intimidate whites with batons and evil looks and the DOJ will look the other way because it's impossible for a minority racist to oppress anyone. As you can see my question matters very much. Are you a white racist?
     
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    Yeah.

    Racism to me is love for your culture.
     
  3. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    Ha! I love your culture too. (I married it)
     
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    The government cannot legislate away individual racial prejudice that causes racial discrimination. It can create legislation that prohibits discrimination based upon "race" but the evidence required to actually enforce the law is so high as to prohibit the vast majority of cases from even being addressed.

    What our government can do is stop creating laws that are based upon racist motives such as the Voter ID laws that are expressly about disenfranchising poor Hispanic and African-American citizens from voting. There is no statistical evidence of voter impersonation at the polls which is the only thing that Voter ID laws would address. What is known is that while only 8% of Whites don't have government issued ID about 18% of Hispanic citizens and 25% of African-American citizens don't have government issued ID and that is who's being targeted by the Voter ID laws. We could also address our immigration laws that have a quota designed to prohibit Hispanic immigration to the United States for peaceful purposes. Both of these legal issues are based upon the fact that Hispanics and African-Americans rarely vote for Republicans and while the laws are politically motivated they are racist nonetheless because they target racial/ethnic groups.

    So let's address the Jim Crow laws that, while politically motivated, are racist in targeting minorities but more importantly we need a national discussion by the political leaders of the different political ideologies to address the racial prejudice within their own political ideology. Our political leaders that should be addressing the problem of racial prejudice within their political ideology but they are not doing that and that is reason for condemnation of them all.
     
  5. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    It must burn you that universities can no longer practice racial discrimination. It's funny how it's YOU on the flamboyant Left who want racism and conservatives want equality, but equality to you is racism. Talk about some warped thinking. Stop lying, Leftists!

    I furthermore call bull(*)(*)(*)(*) on your lies. How the hell do you claim that 1 out of 4 blacks don't have state ID cards? Are you serious? Where are these 11 million blacks who don't have ID's, clearly can't drive a car, buy beer or cigarettes, use an ATM card, or go to clubs?
     
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    Like "racism," intolerance is a loaded and illegitimate term. It is dishonest to use such words. You are implying that there is nothing that is intolerable, because intolerance is automatically morally inferior about everything it is applied to.
     
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    Sissymen love strawmen.
     
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    Stet stupor.
     
  9. PrometheusBound

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    And, as you claim, the Democrats have warned us about you. Is it worth writing a note to their Homeland Security?
     
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    Racist allegations have been in full force since Obama came to office; any criticism of the POTUS which can't be adequately replied to is just met with a smarmy remark about the critic "having a problem with a black man being in office"

    Didn't Eric Holder also claim that he was target of the Fast and Furious investigations simply because he was a black man?
     
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    Why can't liberals see that a lot of the time they are mistaking hard opinions as racism?

    There is true racism out there, and I do agree it is wrong, but liberals misuse the word and over use it every chance they get.

    For example, any disagreement with a homosexual on ANYTHING that doesn't directly involve homosexual gets labeled a homophobe.

    Any disagreement with an African American gets one labeled as a racist even if the disagreement has nothing to do with race or real racism.

    Anytime somebody points out that the Crusades were a result of Christianity responding to Muslim aggression they get labeled a homophobe and they focus on the atrocities that Christianity caused.

    And it can be the most benign of opinions or beliefs. .Such as liking one TV show over another.

    Racism must be denounced where it is. I will always fight against antisemites and holocaust deniers. I will always fight against Birthers. I will always fight against any form of racism there is.

    Insulting people to no end only creates more resentment. Eventually people will get tired of it and lash out.

    This may get a person to shut up, but it will not change hearts and win minds. The only way to win hearts and change minds is to use thoughtful responses with reason and logic and back it up with facts and to treat people with true respect, like Harold T Stone or Fred MacMurray, and Art Bell.

    Insult people to no end and they'll just dig themselves in further.and accomplishes nothing. Treating people bad is one of the root causes of bigotry and prejudism.

    Racism must be denounced, but over use of it and it loses its power in the long run and will lose its effectivesness and then you're back to square one and nothing changes.

    Alas, I sometimes do feel like I am the only one who sees things like this.

    I would love to live in a Star Trek like society where none of this or very very little of it exists.
     
  12. Virgil Jones

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    I haven't read the thread, but I would like to answer the OP.

    The N word does not destroy lives, but the word racist can make the intended victim unemployable. The word racist is the most horrific slight in the English language, it is used to destroy people. Sure, some people are racist, but I would ask that people use the word with caution, and not use it to defame people they disagree with on political issues.
     
  13. Nat Turner

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    Not really. Even these kinds of people know in their heart that it is wrong. They will obfuscate, dodge and try to justify but at the end of the day they know it is just plain wrong. Wasn't always like that. Society has evolved, praise Allah.
     
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  14. OhZone

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    Why exactly do you "morally superior" folks think that everyone must like everyone else?
    Is it OK if one has an aversion to Red Hair? Or does that make him a "hairist"?

    Can we not like or dislike whatever we chooze without being labeled and libeled?

    This is just another aspect of the control freak.
     
  15. Dale Cooper

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    Exactly. If I'm racist, so be it. The same goes for any other goofy, ineffective, stupid label the empty-headed left sticks on me. If they think I care, they're very sadly mistaken (as usual).
     
  16. faithful_servant

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    How do YOU know which it is?? Does the fact that someone sees an issue that you don't think is an issue, make them a racist?? Maybe it's YOUR racism that's at issue. If you're willing to give the President a pass on an issue because he's black or you voted for the President because he's black, then YOU are the racist. Remember that racism isn't just someone disliking someone because of their race, it's also when you grant favor to someone because of their race. If a café owner put up a sign stating that whites get 20% of their meals, you would (rightfully) call that racism, but if you vote for someone because you "want to see what a black man can do in office", that's racism as well. If you ignore a blatant problem with a person just because they are black, that's racism.
     
  17. ManifestDestiny

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    What about the Birthers like Fox News and Trump saying Obama is a Kenyan Communist? That wasnt racist?

    The right wing says incredibly racist things, than when they are called out on it they say "No THATS racist" :roflol:
     
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    Racists are terrified of being accurately labeled racist because they've been very successful in keeping the races divided, keeping blacks voting for the racists, and maintaining power.
     
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    Wow, so being "Called" a racist is worse than being the victim or actual racism? Wow, just wow. You realize ACTUAL racism also makes people unemployable right? Same with homophobia, many republican states tried to pass laws making discrimination of gays based on religious grounds legal, so dont act like you guys are the ones under attack lol :roflol:

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    You think blacks are so stupid that the vast majority would vote for a racist party that hates them lol, that is wrong on so many levels including being racist itself

    Its hilarious how the right thinks helping poor kids "hurts" them, helping black people is "racist", and helping poor people is "tyranny" hahah, you guys use propaganda and bribery as if its a good thing
     
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    So should we stop labeling Nazi's as racist to? You guys cry about the left being politically correct, so why do you try to be PC police when we call you racists? You guys are such hypocrites.
     
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    LOL, no it isn't. All racism means is that you believe there are fundamental differences between people based on race. Thats it. If you believe that, you are racist by definition.

    If I give preferential treatment to asians because I think Asians are smarter, that would still make me racist towards asians. Even though they benefit from my racism.

    If I vote for Obama because I want to see a minority in office, that does not necessarily make me racist. I have not assigned attributes to him based on race. I merely expressed a desire for a minority in a position of leadership.

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    Of course you can. But you we are free to criticize your choices if we want. Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism...everyone else gets to have free speech too.
     
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    It's a label. And like any other label, it can be applied correctly or incorrectly.

    If you embrace a racist ideology, you are racist by definition. It's not an insult, it's just a fact.

    Lots of people don't like Neocons, and it is often used as an insult. But I embrace the ideology, so it's an accurate description of me.
     
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    Culture and race are not the same thing. You can hate European culture and still be considered white. A white guy living in Norway who hates German culture is still white. An American black guy would be alien to most African cultures.

    Culture and race have nothing to do with each other.
     
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    Why get so hung up on calling everyone "racist"?
    What does it get for you?
    What if the so-called "Nazis" are correct about all they espouse?
    This political correctness is another tool to conquer and control our minds.
    It is a form of brain-washing.
    Wise up and leave the programming behind.
     
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    Thats the point of a political forum...to discuss it. Not all ideas are equal. Some have more merit than others. It is up to the people espousing it to prove their ideas are worthy of consideration. They are not worthy by default.

    Nazi ideas have been debunked in detail many times over, and not just on this forum. That is why they are so often ridiculed and discarded.
     

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