Is Islam a peaceful religion or a cult of terrorism?

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Peaceful or terrorist?

  1. Its peaceful and we should all feel safe around it

    9 vote(s)
    27.3%
  2. It was born at the tip of a sword, and lives on through bombs and bullets

    24 vote(s)
    72.7%
  1. rangecontraction

    rangecontraction New Member

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    The Muslims say they wish no-one harm. Are they right?
     
  2. Elcarsh

    Elcarsh Well-Known Member

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    This is simply a false choice; a poll formulated so that one alternative is the one the poller wants you to pick, and the other is a bizarrely unrealistic option.

    Neither option is accurate. Islam is not some kind of hive mind. They are muslims, not Borg.

    There are just as many different variations on islam as there are of christianity, and therefore it is entirely inaccurate to describe it as one single group.

    Are there muslim extremists? Of course, just like there are extremists in every single group, be it christians, hockey players or filatelists.

    Even if muslims were one single unified group, it would still be a silly poll, because you've left out all but the two most ridiculous options. It's akin to asking "Do you think broccoli is the most delicious thing in the universe or the feces of satan?". The question does nothing whatsoever to help us find out what someone really thinks.
     
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  3. Willys

    Willys New Member Past Donor

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    THE Muslims... WHO the hell are the Muslims? The ones in Minnesota or the ones in Paris? Or the ones in The Islamic Republic of Beheading Western Infidels? Islam is a system of religion dictating laws. A child is worth less than the ashes of a Koran burned to cinders in a bombed out Bedouin hovel.

    I will judge a Muslim or any other person by their actions and intent. Should they decide to behead someone then claim themselves as victims then I'm not likely to have much consideration of them. If they deem the murder of innocent civilians as inappropriate then I could tend to have some regard for their opinions.

    Action... Intent...
     
  4. Rickity Plumber

    Rickity Plumber Banned

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    Who the hell voted it was a peaceful religion???

    Perhaps this person should point me in the right direction that shows nothing but sitting in meadows enjoying communal love and harmony.
     
  5. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    Islam, along with Christianity and Judaism, are all based on the same Abrahamic law, but with different interpretations. That being said, you really need to read Sullah 4 to get an understanding of what Islam truly is and what it is not. do not get confused by the politics of a person or group of person who want to use Islam to justify their beliefs just as some who have used the bible to justify that blacks should remain slaves, or that wives should not have jobs or voting rights, etc. And Islam is no more or less Peaceful than Mormonism, Catholicism, Christianity, or orthodoxy Judaism.
     
  6. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It appears to me to be little more than a death cult------------their answer to everything is to kill someone!!!!!!!
     
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    Karma Mechanic Well-Known Member

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    and there are Muslims who thinking killing innocent people is holy and those who think that violates Sharia.....the second being in the majority.
     
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    I tend to differentiate Muslims from Islamists.

    Islamists are those fundamentalist Muslims who think that Islam has to be applied to the social life, that is to say that a lay state cannot exist in Islam, but that Islam has to create states, on the base of Islamic laws.

    This vision is present in Muslim environments, but I wouldn't say it represents the majority of Muslims. Simply many of them don't care about [since they have never known democracy and social freedom, they don't mind which kind of power govern them ...].
     
  9. Validation Boy

    Validation Boy Well-Known Member

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    I did.

    You can't assume everything our Govt tells you is true.

    Remember Waco?

    Remember Viet-Nam?

    Remember Watergate?

    Remember Fast & Furious?
     
  10. Validation Boy

    Validation Boy Well-Known Member

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    Are you talking about Israel and America, or are you talking about Islam?
     
  11. Tram Law

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    Malcolm X was treated better by Muslims than by Americans. That's why he converted.

    But then when he got popular, his popularity was somehow seen as a threat to their authority and their structure.

    So they, and by they I mean the American black Muslims of Islam, harassed him to no end, burning his house and threatening his children.

    then he was killed.

    Most people believe it was the American Islamic group that he was part of that had him killed.
     
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    Rickity Plumber Banned

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    So Islam is peaceful to you? You definitely are touched. Go back to the Middle East will ya? and do not tell me if I "remember" Vietnam valley boy.
     
  13. Validation Boy

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    Validation has nothing to do with Valleys.

    I asked you if you remember Viet-Nam. I didn't "tell you".

    And No, Muslims have never harmed me in any way.

    That's why I'm not going to be a stereotypical ignorant redneck, and paint ALL Muslims with a broad brush, like you have.
     
  14. Rainbow Crow

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    It depends on how you interpret it.
     
  15. Alwayssa

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    Islalm is just not in the Middle East. It is in Asia, Africa, Americas, and Europe. YOu cannot generalize a relgion simly because you do not understand it nor wil lyou ever.

    Let's look at David Koresh and his followers. His group splintered off the Seventh Day Adventist church. YOu probably never heard of them, but they are a protestant group that do not believe in co mingling between the sexes at all. they also wear very conservative clothing with dresses or skirts down to the ankles. the men wear slacks, but no blue jeans, generally. And they worship on Saturday, their version of the Sabbath, not Sunday. he question is should we apply all Chrsitians to the actions of a few like David Koresh or the Seventh Day Adventists? No. We should not. Nor should we do the same with Islam.

    What you are getting confused on is that men have interpreted religion to the way said person wants to justify their actions on.

    For instance, the word "infidel" originally meant a non believer in the Arabian peninsula. It has now been defined as simply a non believer no matter whey they lived. The Q'ran does not call for the killing of the children of the book, which means that non believers are generally anyone who is not a child of the book, Jews or Christians. This means anyone who is Buddhist, Hindu, Atheist, or other religions from around the world are the infidels. But somehow, somite Imam's have taught that infidels are anyone who does not believe in their way and this allows them to kill Muslims and Non Muslims, which is what ISIS has done for political reasons. Al;l the groups that are being targeted were groups that help support the U.s. and coalition forces during our occupation. And to them, payback is a real B.
     
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    ~ "Unarmed black teens are shot to death by white police officers all the time " ~


    `Some of them there "unarmed" teens / Thugs are real Sucka punchers....never see `em coming...most run in packs...some are mean nasty Big lone wolves that can do a lot of damage for being "unarmed" especially when sucka punching a citizen or an LEO


    *No one is fooling anyone intelligent about this "unarmed" media agenda push...




     
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    Ignorant post.

    - - - Updated - - -

    YOUR ON A ROLL! 2nd ignorant post .
     
  18. Tram Law

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    Claiming ignorance has no substance unless backed up by observable verifiable facts.
     
  19. CJtheModerate

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    I will let the Quran speak for itself.

    Quran 3:56 - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

    Quran 8:12 - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

    Quran 9:5 - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."

    Quran 25:52 - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..."

    etc. etc. etc.
     
  20. Validation Boy

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    You're going to be the type that never really explains what they mean, because of their unfortunate tendency to personalize the posts and responses of complete strangers on the internet.

    Its OK. You're feeling lonely and do seem a bit angry with the world, but you'll end up just fine.
     
  21. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    This is a really, really, REALLY bad and stupid poll, for reasons which have already been given by others, and which should have been obvious to the author of the thread.
     
  22. Rickity Plumber

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    You will never gain friends talking down to people such as, "you probably never heard of David Koresh" and "Islam is not only in the Middles East".

    I have an MBA, an MPA (public administration), I also am a Master Plumber for the State of Florida and Ohio and a certified plumbing inspector for the State of Florida. I will generalize the Muslim religion the way I want to. Until they get a grip on being a part of a coexistence with the rest of our planet, screw them all.

    Go play in your field of pansies and count unicorns and rainbows while the rest of us work on ways to annihilate ISIS.
     
  23. Margot2

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    Of course you can generalize Islam anyway you choose..

    Ignorance of a people and their culture allows some to do that with impunity.
     
  24. Alwayssa

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    By generalizing, you then show your lack of education despite the miniature alphabet soup. Muslims already live in coexistence in many countries, including here in the Untied States.

    but then again, I have a BA, BBA, MS, and CPA. You see, more letters in that alphabet soup. I also have traveled quite extensively, both as a child and as an adult to more than a dozen countries.
     
  25. Rickity Plumber

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    Meh, Bachelor's degrees are today's associate degrees.
     

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