Israels land for lives is theft. Pure and simple World View: Israel takes land, Palestine loses land; thats the way it works - So a bit more of Palestine has slidden down the plughole. A thousand more acres of Palestinian land stolen by the Israeli government for appropriation is theft, is it not? and the world has made the usual excuses. The Americans found it counter-productive to peace, which is probably a bit less forceful than its reaction would be if Mexico were to bite off a 1,000-acre chunk of Texas and decided to build homes there for its illegal immigrants in the US. But this is Palestine (inverted commas more necessary than ever) and Israel has been getting away with theft, albeit not on quite this scale it is the biggest land heist in 30 years ever since it signed up to the Oslo agreement in 1993. The Rabin-Arafat handshake, the promises and handovers of territory and military withdrawals, and the determination to leave everything important (Jerusalem, refugees, the right of return) to the end, until everyone trusted each other so much that the whole thing would be a doddle no wonder the world bestowed its financial generosity upon the pair. But this latest land-grab not only reduces Palestine but continues the circle of concrete around Jerusalem to cut Palestinians off from both the capital they are supposed to share with Israelis and from Bethlehem. It was instructive to learn the Israeli-Jewish Etzion council regarded this larceny as punishment for the murder of three Israeli teenagers in June. The goal of the murders of those three youths was to sow fear among us, to disrupt our daily lives and to call into doubt our right [sic] to the land, the Etzion council announced. Our response is to strengthen settlement. This must be the first time that land in Palestine has been acquired not through excuses about security or land deeds or on Gods personal authority but out of revenge. And it raises an interesting precedent. If an innocent Israeli life cruelly taken is worth around 330 acres of land, then an innocent Palestinian life equally cruelly taken must surely equal the same. And if even half the 2,200 Palestinian dead of Gaza last month and this is a conservative figure were innocent, then the Palestinians presumably now have the right to take over 330,000 acres of Israeli land, in reality much more. But however counter-productive this might be, Im sure America would not stand for it. Israel takes land, Palestinians lose land; thats the way it works. And thus it has been since 1948, and that is how it will continue. There will never be a Palestine and the latest territorial robbery is merely another small punctuation mark in the book of sorrow which the Palestinians must read as their dreams of statehood wither. Nabil Abu Rudeineh, the spokesman for the Palestinian President, Mahmoud Abbas, said his boss and the moderate forces in Palestine had been stabbed in the back by the Israeli decision, which is putting it mildly. Abbas has a back covered in knife wounds. What else did he expect when he wrote a book about Palestinian-Israeli relations without once using the word occupation? So were back to the same old game. Abbas cannot negotiate with anyone unless he speaks for Hamas as well as the Palestinian Authority. As Israel knows. As America knows. As the EU knows. But each time Abbas tries to put together a unity government, we all screech that Hamas is a terrorist organisation. And Israel says it cannot talk to a terrorist organisation which demands the destruction of Israel even though Israel used to say the same of Arafat and, in those days, helped Hamas to build more mosques in Gaza and the West Bank as a counterweight to Fatah and all the other terrorists up in Beirut. Of course, if Abbas speaks only for himself, Israel will tell him what it has told him before: that without his control of Gaza, Israel has no one to negotiate with. But does it matter any more? There should be a special strap headline above all reports of this kind: Goodbye, Palestine. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...r-lives-is-theft-pure-and-simple-9705378.html and the slaughter continues. ---
Let me explain to all as in a primary school class. In Oslo the area was divided... Area 'A' is supposed to be controlled by the PLO... Area 'B' by Israel and the Arabs and area 'C' by Israel. No Israeli today has ever complained to any authority of what the Arabs are doing in area 'A' and 'B'... Area 'C' is under the control of Israel... Let me remind all that it was <Israel ALONE> who liberated the West Bank <Judea and Samaria> from Jordan and thus is entitled to it more than any other group, Oslo notwithstanding. Israel does not have to wait forever until Abbas (Abu Mazen) decides to discuss the issue...
Liberated the West Bank from Jordan? Are you kidding me.. It was very nice when Jordan was administering it.. and peaceful..
really? it was great and peaceful? How many Jews were allowed to visit the Tomb of the Patriarchs? This was negotiated land this is not a conquering. Take it up with the PA if you have a problem.
It was to you perhaps and not to me, my land, my patrimony, my ancestral home, the Land of Israel from time immemorial. Just to remind you and all that no country except the UK and Pakistan recognized this Jordan conquest and the attempt at it annexation, not even a single Arab State from the 21 in existence including your beloved Saudi Arabia.
The Israelis took the West Bank, Shaaba Farms and the Golan Heights in 1967.. Where do you think all those refugees in Gaza came from?? - - - Updated - - - You have no more right to Palestine than anyone else... Jordan simply administrated the West Bank.. What are you talking about?
This the inheriance of the Jewish people. The fact that 450,000 Arabs left is the fact that they had no connection with the Land of Israel. What I am talking about is the country of Israel... There are no Palestinians for they are squatters on the Land of the Jews... and BTW why Hussein made Peace with Israel it is because he would have lost his kingdom if he would have played with fire some more.
Jordan my dear is a created <FICTION> with no right of existence at all. Take Abdullah II give him a one way ticket to Europe and there will be Peace all over... The Arabs will join their brethren in ex Jordan and they will create their own country... The alternative is that they might be part of the Caliphate and again, Abdullah II this time will buy his own one way ticket to Europe exactly like King Farouk of Egypt.
Some incentive perhaps or to resolve what they owe the Jews of the Arab countries and what the Jews owe the Arab owner of Land and properties and thus balance the books.
Israel is also a fiction... The whole area was known as Palestine and the Levant... There won't be another Caliphate.. The Arab countries have diverse interests .. and cultures and they don't want a Caliphate.. They didn't want one in 1924 either if you recall.
and what if they refuse your suggested $$$$$ bribes? you gonna pack them into cattle cars and ship them to The East, like the Nazis did?
They don't owe the Jews of the Arab countries a dime... Perhaps the Zionists should pay them reparations for causing them to leave in 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973.
will the Arabs also compensate the Jews for all the massacres they committed and destruction of Jewish property?
You should be ashamed of yourself retorting like the well rounded personage Mr. Jonsa. We have luxury tourist buses you know? We will buy the few properties if any owned by the Arabs in Israel... from the compensation received from Arab countries who dispossessed one Million Jews living in Israel today. The Arabs that do not swear allegiance to the laws, flag and rules of the state of Israel have nothing to do here and we hate <fifth columnists>... Exchange of population is not new... i.e. India-Pakistan 8 million people in each direction, then Greece and Turkey. Poland, Czechoslovakia and many other European countries. EXCHANGE OF POPULATION PRECEDENTS ~by HBendor (This Article is in response to further questions that might spring forth from people who have not kept tabs with recent historical exchange of population, I hope this will help somehow.) In Asia: Millions of Moslems fled from India to Pakistan following the partition of that sub-continent after World War I, and a similar number of Indians left Pakistan for India - an estimated eight million in each direction. This was a classic instance of large-scale population exchange. In Europe: Millions of Germans moved in various directions following the post-war changes in the map of Europe. According to official West German statistics, by September 1950 three million Germans had been expelled from the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia, and of these 2,069,000 were absorbed in West Germany or Austria and 916,000 in East Germany. Between 1949 and the erection of the Berlin Wall in August 1961 an additional 2,739,000 refugees from East Germany were registered in West German absorption centers. In all, over 3.5 million people fled East Germany, and another 6.75 million Germans left their homes in areas annexed by Poland, moved west, and were absorbed there. In Africa: According to official estimates, the number of French and pro-French Arabs who left North Africa for France and other locations following Algerian independence reached over one million. Refugee migration in considerable numbers also took place in China - Hong-Kong, Korea, Vietnam - Laos - Cambodia, Nigeria (lbo), Greece - Turkey, and many other countries. In all of these instances - as in the situation of the Jews from Arab countries (nearly One Million) - solutions were found by absorption of the refugees into their new countries. They virtually ceased, after a time, to be considered refugees. Only the rulers of the Arab countries acted otherwise in relation to their fellow Arabs, despite the fact that most of them were victims of the clear, open, and declared invasion of the Arab armies in May 1948. After 1967, Israel was given the opportunity to help rehabilitate the Arab refugees living in those territories, which came under Israeli rule following the Six-Day War. With the initiative, encouragement, and partial financing of the Israeli government, thousands of families in the Gaza Strip and a smaller number in Judea and Samaria were moved from squalid refugee camps to new housing where they received all vital services. Due partially to this development, and partially to Arab propaganda's shift of emphasis in recent years to the national aspect of the Palestinian problem, the Arab refugee problem has lost some of its point. "The suffering of the quasi Arab refugees" is spoken of less and less today, and the necessity, of creating a "Palestinian State" in order to resolve what is presented as the "lack of a homeland" of the Palestinian Arabs is mentioned with increasing frequency In reality 77% of the "Mandate for Palestine" is already with Jordan, and 72% of its population is clearly made out of Arabs of Palestinian stock and the remaining 28% are a mix of Circassian from Muslim Europe and Bedouins meandering gypsies who before 1946 were roaming the M.E. according to seasons to be able to feed their livestock. Compensating the Palestinian Arabs with real Dollars for properties left behind in relation to the ONE MILLION JEWS that were forcibly thrown out of their place of birth in most of the Arab Countries with their respective shirts on their backs leaving their wealth, their homes, their bank account and their Real Estate behind is something that the readers should take into account. These were previously 450,000 Arab Refugees (according to UNRA) versus ONE MILLION Jewish Refugees that Israel already absorbed, whilst the Arab Refugees were left festering in their miasmic situation by their brethren the 21 x Arab Countries.
trying to force millions of Arabs at gun point into Jordan, will lead to a massive war that will kill millions of Israeli Jews. just sayin'. the Likudist dream of "transfer", is a recipe for mass-murder of the Jewish People.
No one is forcing anyone... when you receive compensation you are king... and kings do not ask your opinion.
when Jews push for Palestinians to be exiled to Jordan or Egypt, they make anti-Semitism seem acceptable. right-wing Israeli extremists put Jews throughout the world, in great danger.
Pushing seems to be on your mind... this is a self serving attitude of weaklings trying to hold to dear life. You think Jews are not in danger anywhere in the world...??? Well then you should read a little more... I noticed from the beginning that you wanted to catapult yourself as the champion of lost cause... You were advocating for the Arabs... lately for the Jews but on your own terms... I personally do not like a wishy washy person with an attitude... it is either you are with us or bid us goodbye and join ISIS.
Israel dont want to ship the Arabs from Israel, the West Bank and Gaza away. Israel gave the Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza the chance to rule themselves and they took it, this is an action of a country that want the Arabs back to the Arab countries? I hardly believe! In Israel there is politicians, lawyers, judges, teachers etc.- is this show you that Israel want the Arabs out of Israel? no, it shows you the opposite! BTW- one of the judges that sentenced Katzav, the former president, to jail was an Arab. In Israel maybe the extremists want to ship all the Arabs away, but luckily they are not in charge or in the current government, and if they would be in the next one they will have too little power in the next government that they wouldnt be able to get the government agree about shiping all of the Arabs away, so you and I can be calm about that idea wont happen!