No Expected 'Tidal Wave' for Republicans at the Midterm Elections

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    Midterm Elections 2014: Why Senate Republicans Won't Have The ‘Tidal Wave’ Victory Many Predicted
    http://www.ibtimes.com/midterm-elec...ave-tidal-wave-victory-many-predicted-1680084

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    Republicans were already measuring drapes for their Senate offices I hear. And so sure that they would take over the U.S. Senate. But think again! It's not over till it's over. They should not count their chickens before they hatch. Democrats are very well financed to fight the tough election wars and let the voters know of the demise they will face voting Republican. They are now well poised to send that message out. Candidates run neck-in-neck at the polls and Republicans face many other major problems and hurdles and it can't be a very comfortable feeling for Republicans at all this close to the election.
     
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    Golly, no. And Chairman doesn't expect snow or cold weather this winter, either what with global warming and all. And, Chairman is expecting to keep his health insurance if he likes his health insurance. And Obama's slogan offered for the November election is, "If you like this economy you can keep this economy by voting for the socialists."
     
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    From Oaxaca,huh? Well, there's nothing quite like good ol' Mexican hogwash as it pertains to American politics.
     
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    As I've said before, this is actually good for the GOP. Because the longer the people are forced to sit and suffer under Democrat leadership, the more discontent they will continue to grow with the party. Which could potentially mean a giant overturn in 2016 with the Republicans taking back both the presidency and the senate. Thus giving them control of all three houses like the Democrats had in 2008.

    If you're a liberal, you actually want the Republicans to take back the senate next month. Because it will increase your chances of winning another presidency.
     
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    that happened in 2012, repubs ran on job job jobs, then nothing nothing nothing from them.... then they lost in 2014
     
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    It rings familiar; in 2012 Romney was supposed to win in a huge landside and look what happened. I'm not saying the republicans will definitely lose, but they shouldn't be gloating until the results of the elections are in. The races are starting to tighten up plus as predicted some of the republican candidates are starting to put their foot into their mouths. I see Karl Rove and Dick Morris lurking about...... :)
     
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    It's actually really really bad for the GOP. If the Republicans don't solidify their hold on the house and chip at the majority in the Senate, there's going to be Hell to pay. The next big election after this is a Presidential and all the Republican voter suppression tricks in the book won't keep the surge of voters from hitting the ballots.

    The candidates that the right-wing is pushing? Unelectable. The GOP primary is brutal for national candidates. First, the candidates must run through a gauntlet proving that they are pure distilled right-wing fringe. Then they have to try and track back to the center... it's a long trek from the furthest reaches of the right-wing from which they must journey.

    After 2016, the next truly important election is in 2020. The year of the census. Bad timing for the Republicans as it aligns with another Presidential election ensuring that the Democrats will be well-represented in the voting pools.
     
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    Any lack of a tidal wave of GOP victories under today's Misery Index should really cause the Party to reaccess their message.
    Romney's major problem was not being willing to address the reasons the poor should vote, GOP.
    He wrote them off. And forgot their votes add up too.

    1) Stop being the Party of stupid.
    2) Argue the advantage to all under a GOP administration.

    The Midterms are the GOP's to lose.
    2016 is the GOP's to lose too.


    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


    No :flagcanada:
     
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    That's the standard GOP establishment strategy - run to the right in the primary then dodge to the center in the general election to attract the "independents". That's why the GOP loses so often - not because they run to the right in the primary but because they go to the center in the general and lose all their base. And the GOP selects "centrists" because the GOP establishment is not conservative but democrat lite.

    The GOP base is disenchanted with the GOP because the GOP is "democrat lite", it doesn't represent the base, it is not conservative. Conservatives have been voting for Republicans because the R's are the slightly lesser evil, but that approach is wearing thin and conservatives are walking away.

    If the GOP gets a spine and stands up for conservative principles they will win in a big way.
     
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    Yeah, I don't see why there should be any deviation from the usual roughly 50-50 split between the two parties. Neither one offers anything better than propaganda, false promises and false prosperity.
     
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    I realize the Democrats have more than a century of experience with election fraud but people are catching on. The undocumented Democrats flooding across the border are not well received by most Americans. The jokes about "vote early and vote often" and "Nov. 4th--Resurrection Day when the dead rise up and vote" are leaving a bitter taste in people's mouths. And the most criminal branch of the leftist Democrat gang, the unions, are in trouble everywhere. Americans are fed up with the public union/government alliances that screw the taxpayers. They're fed up with the union/government alliances that screw the union members.

    I had an elderly friend, a retired doctor, who spent a lot of time telling me why he, and I, never had to die. We could live forever. I'd have him post here and explain it but he died. Democrats are convinced they can have power forever, no matter what they do to the country and to Americans.
     
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    I think if one follows the profession political prognosticators like Sabato, Cook, Rothenburg, Silver and more one would come to the conclusion that West Virginia, Montana and South Dakota are close to being sure pickups for the Republicans. Arkansas, Alaska and Louisiana are 70% plus to go to the Republicans. That is the six they need.

    But wait, all is not written in stone. Kentucky, Georgia and Kansas are states the Democrats could gain. Well, Kansas will probably go independent, but it will be a Republican loss. Kentucky and Georgia are 60% favorites to remain in Republican hands. So if all this plays out as the professionals think it will, that still leaves the GOP one seat short, the lost of Kansas.

    Two other possibilities exists, Iowa and Colorado. Iowa is leaning Republican as of today, Colorado has switched back and forth in its lean. But the Republican's winning one of these two states would put them back to a net gain or six and control of the Senate. Then independent Orman of Kansas is the wild card, which party will he caucus with.

    New Hampshire, Michigan, North Carolina look fairly certain to remain in Democratic hands. So who will control the senate, watch Kansas, Colorado and Iowa closely, the way they go will determine who wins the senate.

    In the House the republicans seem set to pickup between 5-10 seats. A tidal wave is not needed for the house, they already control it 234-201. So if the Republicans pick up the needed net gain of six seats, is that considered a tidal wave? I do not think there has been a definition of a tidal wave election when it comes to the senate, there is one for the house, a pick up of 25 plus seats, but not one for the senate.
     
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    Will depend on who the independent caucuses with I suppose. A Tidal wave really doesn't happen in the Senate because of the staggered elections
     
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    If the election were held today and if the polls are accurate the Republicans would gain the senate. Two mighty big ifs, the first one you can throw out, the election isn't today. They other if on the polls being accurate, well they always have a 3-4 point margin of error. Here is how the pollsters see the election as of today compliments of RCP.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2014/senate/2014_elections_senate_map_no_toss_ups.html

    I agree, if I were a Republican I sure wouldn't be counting my chickens before they are hatched. Things change, an event or happening can throw out all those nice polls RCP based their results on. Then too the undecideds still have to make up their minds.
     
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    TheChairman….. which G. O. P. hopeful do you personally think would be the most likely to put pressure on the nation of Uganda to not enact legislation that would oppress the Gay community there?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...-likely-protect-2-million-gay-men-uganda.html
    Which GOP leader would be most likely to protect the 2 million Gay men in Uganda?
    In your opinion.... would Mr. Mitt Romney be one of the most likely Republican Party Presidents to attempt to do something concrete to attempt to protect the two million Gay men living in Uganda who are worried about how they will be treated over the coming years and decades?

    President Obama did well to warn the leader of Uganda regarding the anti-gay bill .... but......

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...486066-9d63-11e3-878c-65222df220eb_story.html
    "Ugandan leader signs harsh anti-gay bill, ignores warning from Obama"

    I was rather encouraged how well this topic was received over on a Christian forum:

    http://www.christianforums.com/t7728763/
    God's many plans for the Gay community???????
    I am pretty sure it is over five years since I read the NDE of Mr. Christian Andreason. His NDE account has had a major impact on my life.

    As a former follower of Mr. Garner Ted Armstrong and his dad Mr. Herbert Armstong I must admit that these statements put me into some serious cognitive dissonance at first!!!!??


    http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html#a11

    Five or six years later on and finally I feel confident enough to go into specifics as to what I strongly suspect are a few of the actual plans that the God of Abraham, the Creator of heaven and earth has in mind for the Gay community!!!!

    ..........
    Do you agree that God has plans for the Gay community?

    Yes, God owns this studio, we are the actors playing out our role! 6..... …………..23.08%

    No, God would never compromise one millionth of an inch with sin!!!! 8.... …………..30.77%

    Yes, deep down we all love God and He has good planned for all of us. 10....... 38.46%

    I have really never considered this idea before??? 6..... ……………………………...23.08%
     
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    Saving this post for Election Night, Unifier. You don't mind, do you???

    - - - Updated - - -

    So your "explanation" for why Republicans don't win elections FOR A CENTURY....is "voter fraud"???

    No Republican ever "legitimately" lost an election since 1914??? :D
     
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    I've always maintained that the most accurate poll you'll find will be on election day.
     
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    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
     
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    "Research your candidates well prior to the election; its better to make an informed decision then one based on ignorance"
     
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    Liberal logic on display. Thank you, Gorn Captain.
     
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    Very true. That is the only one that counts. But if you were an election junkie who follows elections very closely it is fun to watch all the polls come in and to make predictions to see how you stand when everything is all over with.
     
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    Thank you for your excellent question, Dennis. With regard to which G.O.P. hopeful would be the most likely to put pressure on Uganda to not enact anti-Gay legislation in that country, we can certainly and immediately rule out Mitt Romney as he has repeatedly said he is against same-sex marriage and maintains his constant position that such marriage should be between one man and one woman. His position has not changed on that therefore, no one should consider Mitt Romney to be an ally of Gays and Lesbians in Uganda or elsewhere including and especially in the United States of America. And from the poll you presented earlier, 48% plus do not want for Mitt Romney to run again and many others in this country feel the same way.

    Mitt Romney reaffirms opposition to gay marriage
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/mitt-romney-reaffirms-opposition-gay-marriage/story?id=16314461

    Yes, President Obama certainly did well to try to discourage discrimination, prejudice, and intolerance in Uganda and Kudos to him for his stance on that, but the fact of the matter is that Uganda did enact an anti-homosexuality law in their country that was recently struck down by their Constitutional Court (good thing!) and now the Ugandan leader is highly worried that his country will be boycotted over their stance on Gay rights. And rightfully so that he should be very worried. The brutality in his country against people who are Gay or Lesbian is mind-boggling and simply Outrageous and most unfortunate. He resorted to using the bully pulpit to gain superiority and dominance over minority citizens therefore, he should be very worried of a possible boycott in his country or for other countries to cease trading with him for his stance on the matter. And there can be no doubt that through continuous pressure from the more understanding and tolerable better-sensed countries as well as the United Nations, Uganda will be led to cease enacting such travesty laws that adversely affect and impact millions of innocent people with threats of imprisonment or worse just for being who they are and for whom they love.

    Ugandan President Worries Anti-Gay Laws Might Lead To International Trade Boycotts
    http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2014/10/07/3576274/uganda-museveni-gay-rights-trade/

    Well according to that poll the majority has voted 38.46% that we all love God and He has good plans for us and that's certainly something I would not ever disagree with at all. It is however very interesting to note how they voted at 30.77% saying God would never compromise with sin. Did they include HETEROSEXUAL Sin in that equation as well, one just has to wonder? I strongly suspect not since the topic is clearly talking about the Gay community. That just goes to show the on-going prejudice still held in the minds of those who engage in voting in such polls. In their quest to marginalize those in the minority, it is incredible that they still vote with Sixteenth-Century mentality thinking that everyone else around them is a grievous sinner except themselves.They simply put a blind eye to their own shortcomings and prefer to point the finger at others while never acknowledging that they, themselves, might just be the greater sinners in the things they do.

    And God addresses these type of people quite to the point with this Scripture. Emphasis mine in the two word CAPS in red.

    "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest, not the beam that is in thine own eye? THOU HYPOCRITE, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye." LUKE 6:41-42 KJV​


    Now having presented that, there are also some rather interesting news to be presented, in the name of fairness, about Republicans. It appears that 131 Republicans support same-sex marriage which is good to hear. But 131 Republicans out of the hundreds in both chambers is tantamount to only a handful in which you could count those in support and still have fingers left over. So, while the more progressive Republicans have come out in support of same-sex marriage the rest also need to come to terms with this issue that they are apparently still wrestling with and realize that a clear majority of Americans, including evangelicals, now support same-sex marriage. Until they come to full terms with that they will forever remain in the minority of public opinion on this issue.

    The Pro-Freedom Republicans Are Coming: 131 Sign Gay-Marriage Brief
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...s-are-coming-131-sign-gay-marriage-brief.html
     
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    What happened is the media went into full propaganda mode, lied for Obama, covered up for Obama, and smeared Romney. And the low information idiots out there bought it.
     
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    I keep hearing liberals saying someone somewhere predicted Romney in a land slide and the only person of any creditability said such a thing was Morris
    every poll including the Fox poll had Romney trailing by two points or more
     
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    I'm surprised that Fox News covered up and lied for Obama (yes, they are part of the mainstream media) and now that I think of it, I guess Rush Limbaugh and his fellow conservative talk radio show hosts did the same for Obama. What a bunch of hypocrites.
     

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