In the Beginning... was Super Strings and Super Waves/ Super Energetic Matter!

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Do you believe that The Creator/creators, evolved or learned?

  1. Yes, all of us learn... so why not G-d/YHWH/ Creator too??!!

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  2. No.... G-d had to know everything instantly... or by definition... is not G-d!!??

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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Seems with all those abilities IT could have done a better job.
     
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    There has not been one single verified case of reincarnation or of past lives. This is a fact. And by the way science has just found out how to generate the feeling of a ghostly presence through brain stimulation. There goes the myth of ghosts, evil presences, etc.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/11/141106131849.htm
     
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    Lately I am beginning to think that the Creator is teaching Evolution……through the evolution in society that is occurring that in so many ways is better than the society of the time of Moses or King David???!

    If it is true that the Creator evolved and learned over eternity in the past……… then the Ancient of Days the FAther and the Ancient of Days the Mother…. would be teaching us a little about how they improved their circumstances over something that would resemble "time??"


    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html#a05
    What is predicted for our near future…. is so much better than the administration of death that was delivered through Moses!

    http://www.thomastwin.com/7 A Thomas samples.html

     
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    You really should take a look at the Barbro Karlen - Anne Frank case.

    http://www.iisis.net/index.php?page=semkiw-anne-frank-barbro-karlen-reincarnation-past-life
    Dr. Ian Stevenson was so impressed by some similar cases to this one that he dedicated forty years of his life to analyzing about 3000 similar cases.

    What he discovered about birth marks or moles corresponding to wounds received in a past life is more than merely impressive. At least to anybody who is not too scared of the implications of this research????!

    Can you think of how this could alter the way that we look at climate change? Imagine being a climate change skeptic who views global warming as being a problem for their grandchildren to worry about?

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation01.html#a03
    Birthmarks and Birth Defects Corresponding to Wounds on Deceased Persons
     
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    I deeply appreciate your introducing yourself a little more clearly AboveAlpha. (So…… you might be a little bit like Henry Wilcox of "Covert Affairs" fame)????!

    I may as well return the favour…… I am the guy who has reason to suspect that I may have "turned" a former fallen angel named Azazel Baalzebub……. and… I have in mind a plan to turn President Putin that you and some of your friends might find interesting. Posts number 1 and #4 here will give you necessary background info on this:

    http://tate4centralnova.yuku.com/topic/383/My-correspondence-with-Rabbi#.VF4j60uHfLQ
    Rabbi ........, linking Jerusalem Third Temple with Grand Unified Theory of Modern World Problems.

    #4…."Rabbi ......, this all began over a woman!"
     
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    Thank you for the link to the article…… That is impressive….. but there is another quite possible explanation other than their take on what they have discovered.

    They may have found another possible "trigger" for paranormal phenomena……. or opened up another possible way for us to view what is happening all around us in fifth, sixth, seventh or eighth dimensional space time. They may have allowed us to view one or more of our "spiritual guides?"

    What they have found may fit very well with one or more of the 22 possible triggers of a near death experience.

    http://www.near-death.com/triggers.html
     
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    Or….. perhaps all of us who understand psychic phenomena from our perspective that we were taught as children……… are all missing important parts of the puzzle……… maybe all of us are partly correct in our understanding……. and maybe all of us are at least partly correct as well?????!
     
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    Not sure what you refer to. Obviously, there are parts missing from the puzzle, but that doesn't mean there is a justification for making any of them up until we've tested them properly. The only difference between psychic claims and other unproven claims as far as I am concerned is that they do not easily conform to either the physics we consider ourselves to be fairly confident in (such as there not being a known method for the transformation of information) nor the statistics (such as any such method, regardless of origin, would be weaker than pseudorandom processes and therefore drowned in nonsensical information even if it existed).
     
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    Swensson… from your research do you tend to think that out of body experiences could be possible?

    Can human consciousness be separate from the body- and brain?
     
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    No. There are of course details of what one means by out of body experience (can it be looking in a mirror? Watching a video of oneself? Having a dream of one self? Even hypothetically travelling in time or making a clone of oneself? The answer might then be different) but I assume you're referring to receiving sight information from some point in which there isn't a physical eye.

    We know so much of our sight depends on our physical eyes. It's not like sight is an ever-present concept which is just locally unlocked by our eyes when we look at things, the eyes and the visual cortex are responsible for many if not all parts of turning light into pictures. For instance, how would focus work for a non-physical eye? Without a lens, a nonphysical eye would still only perceive the world as completely jumbled. How would preceptors work? Would a colour blind person see in colour blind vision? If so, how does the physical eye manage to influence the non-physical eye? If not, how would the non-physical eye know to give us the colours red-green-blue as we expect, how would it know not to give us a full electromagnetic spectrum and give us cancer instead?

    That being said, it is expected that humans would come up with such a concept, since our brains consider our eyes to be a single viewpoint instead of the intricate parts. Similarly, the instances are quite explained in this manner. It would be very easy to check this, just let a person wear a piece of paper with a random word on it and let him read it from out of his body. This has never been done, so we have no reason above our physical intuition (which says it's wrong anyway) to rely on.
     
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    I am trying to remember which physician it is who has convinced researchers in London, England to place unusual items in impossible to view positions all around the Emergency Rooms so that in the future cardiac arrest patients can be asked if they saw any unusual items while they floated outside their bodies?

    What did they see? Where was it at?

    It may have been Dr. Pim van Lommel M. D. who has initiated this study.

    http://iands.org/research/important...md-continuity-of-consciousness.html?showall=1

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    ..............
    That is exactly what I am thinking too!
     
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    Back around 1992 I did go to Ms. Debbie Young who was one of the only people in my area who could hypnotize somebody and take them back in time to what they perceived as past lives.

    I also could not be hypnotized...… but...… she is also rather gifted and I was impressed by what she told me she saw behind me.

    She said that she saw The Vatican behind me.... which was difficult for me to understand at first because I am something of a Jewish wannabe and I was wondering what I would be doing at the Vatican?????

    She also said that she got the impression that I had been a woman in my most recent past life and had died in a concentration camp??? I have zero conscious memories of any past lives..... but this was interesting because I have read a great deal about the holocaust ever since I was a teenager.

    I now have a pretty good theory regarding why I might end up visiting the Vatican........... this will help to explain what I have in mind:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...s-p-m-brokering-jordan-israel-peace-deal.html

    ....meditate on Canada's P. M. brokering Jordan - Israel peace deal?

    Several years ago I was led to read a book again about a near death experiencer who was shown that Jordan and Israel would become like one nation…. I wonder if this is true and if it would be according to the will of God for this to happen soon?


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    (Dannion Brinkley, page 26, Saved By The Light, Scribd version)

    My guess on the new colour for Jordan would be GREEN…. as Isaiah 35 is fulfilled and the deserts of Jordan would be turned green through a great increase in desalination of ocean water……. Not to mention the blessing of God!

    http://saharaforestproject.com/projects/jordan.html
     
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    Of the little bit I know about this it would seem that both the U.S. Military and Soviet Military R&D Programs specific to this and other Paranormal possibilities had good viable results.

    The U.S. Military and Civilian Joint R&D Program esecially had success in REMOTE VIEWERS.

    The Soviets admitted in the late 1990's to have had success in very limited forms of Telekinesis.

    Even though such programs have been said to be abandoned to the General Public....they are NOT.

    They continue at a much more comprehensive and rapid pace due to some VERY ALARMING issues occurring in 1949 and then continuing at a U.S. Army Air Corps. Base originaly known as WRIGHT FIELD which is now known as The U.S. Air Forces Wright/Patterson AFB....home to the USAF's REVERSE ENGINEERING DIVISION in OHIO.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Thank you for your nice comments to me Dennis...they are most appreciated.

    Here is the thing.....the work done by Helen Wambach Ph. D. is also unreliable...IN THE EXTREME and I will explain why.

    It is IMPOSSIBLE to have untainted and uninfluenced information gotten from any person or subject as a result of Hypnotic Regression.

    Reason?

    #1. The subject KNOW the reason why they are there even if that reason is to be hypnotised or even if the only reason given is to talk to a Doctor.

    The person subconsciously and instinctively KNOW they are there for a purpose and such a purpose whether known or not prior to the Hypnotic regression a person who DOES NOT SHOW SIGNS OF AGITATION for being there is a person that WANTS ATTENTION and is desperate for it as only such a person with such a need for attention and such a need could be valid as in the cases of those who have blocked out some tramatic event in their lives and want to remember....or a person simply who KNOWS that they are going to be Hypnotized and wants to hold this experience of having a Past Life as something to tell others about and feel pride.

    No can honestly say that an individual unless such an individual was desperate for attention...would allow others to bring them somewhere for some reason and purpose that they are not being told about.

    A person is going to say..."What the HELL are we doing here and why are we here?"

    Anyone who does not is a person so open to suggestion that they will create everything and anything ijn their minds.

    It is IMPOSSIBLE to have an impartial subject.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Yes...… I read an interesting book about twenty years ago about Ingo Swann and how he could be given latitude and longitude by a third party who had no idea what was there but Ingo could do an amazing job of drawing whatever it was that was at that location.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingo_Swann
     
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    My theory at this time over why I could not be hypnotized back in '92 is that I may have had a rather influential lifetime in the past ten centuries that I was not at all ready to see at that time. At least that is my theory after a gifted lady back in September of 2013 gave me a specific "past life."

    M. W., in my opinion, is playing around in the same league with Kevin Ryerson who you can read about at this link:

    http://www.thomastwin.com/6 A Thomas background.html

    It is true that all information given through hypnotism would be to some degree tainted..... that is correct..... but everything that we humans do is imperfect...… and those imperfections are actually an important part of the full picture.

    Dr. Chaim Henry Tejman does a good job of explaining how hypnosis can unlock something like a time machine in the human subconscious.

    http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/Book7/Hypnosis_time _travel_machine.htm


    Although what Dr. Chaim Tejman writes about the hydrogen atom seems strange it might eventually be proven to be part of the reason why Dr. Masaru Emoto got such amazing results?!

    http://www.masaru-emoto.net/english/water-crystal.html
     
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    The reality that very accurate Remote Viewers exist backs up both the Many Worlds and Multiversal Theories.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Sorry but the Theories presented by Dr. Chaim Tejman are complete jibberish.

    There is absolutely ZERO Scientific Evidence, Data or even a REASON for Dr. Chaim Tejman's claims.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I totally agree.

    What do you think of The Holographic Universe Theory?

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/research08.html#a04
    The Holographic Universe and the Near-Death Experience
     
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    Actually there does seem to be at least some evidence for this….. but the implications are pretty off the scale. If Helen Wambach Ph. D. and Dr. Chet Snow were accessing subconscious memories of other lines of time then…… it would appear that some very powerful beings may be making clones - copies of all of us as our personalities and identities evolve off in different directions in a number of quite different lines of time.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/humor...2000-election-but-negates-global-dimming.html
    In alternate time line Mr. Gore wins the 2000 election but negates Global Dimming....
    I personally loved the film "An Inconvenient Truth." I have watched it four or five times at least. It played a huge role in my deciding to join a political party that takes climate change very seriously.

    Largely due to his film I actually put in two submissions for The Virgin Earth Challenge.

    I do have one criticism for his film though..... the diplomacy quotient was extremely low and America is more divided than ever partly because of the flavor of his film….

    post #7…Could a win by Mr. Al Gore in 2000 have led to America being 15% submerged under the oceans by January 1, 2013?

    Time does look like a menorah....... or tree with branches and roots... … and is not confined to being a straight line...…

    In theory....... Mr. Gore's policy could have ended up greatly decreasing the Global Dimming Effect..... at the same time that it might do little to reduce a general Global Warming trend.... which could lead to rapid warming.....and of course increased cracking and sliding on the land based Greenland Ice Pack.... the world's glaciers and the outer regions of Antarctica......

    Prime Minister Stephen Harper and President Bush may have deliberately allowed somewhat bad policy to continue...… because they probably had been told that the factors that increase Global Dimming..... do tend to mask Global Warming.... .which could mean within five decades we may know that that they may have had a basically good idea..... in comparison to worst possible alternative.....??????!!!

    http://www.baproducts.com/chetmap.htm

    Dr Chet Snow's Earth Change Map

     
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    The Holographic Universe Theory is also gibberish as you need Matter to project a Hologram onto.

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    Thank you for answering this question AboveAlpha.

    As you can guess I have a great deal of respect for this theory.

    One area that you and I may be able to agree on is a plan to restore the economy of America through an exaltation of the arts by combining art with organized barter. I am planning on explaining the whole thing in this discussion:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/gay-lesbian-rights/380595-g-ds-agenda-gay-community.html
    G-d's Agenda for the Gay Community?!
    Assuming the accuracy of the following two paragraphs...… what specifically would G-d/ HaShem/ YHWH/ The G-d of Abraham be planning to do through the Gay Community?


    http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html#a11


    Obviously..... one of the things that our Creator wishes to do through the Gay Community..... is to create a whole new world in which there....."would never be one single wisecrack or hurtful remark made ever again"... is expanded and expanded and expanded to all groups and communities on earth?!

    I think?!
     
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    Perhaps, just a bit too much and too far out there for most.
     
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    Good point Tecoyah.

    I guess I am something of an example of what can happen to somebody who studies NDE accounts and other aspects of parapsychology rather obsessively for 24 years!

    On the other hand….. if you were a being composed of fundamental energy….. who had already planned and orchestrated a nearly infinite number of Big Bang type events throughout something like eternity in the past….. what kind of a universe would you create Tecoyah?

    www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/

    What would one do over infinite time…. with all that energy/ power???!
     

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