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i've answered repeatedly, you're being obtuse

 

yup, i live in what used to be the most fertile land in the USA, and we will be a dust bowl soon. Its cool though. It was near 80 degrees today, avg high for today is 62.

 

And since I'm so obtuse then you obviously won't have any problem understanding why I want you to give me a detailed answer. Who are these people? Describe them to me.

 

they're people that want to pay their fair share of taxes, people that have a conscience

people that know what the constitution says

 

I pay my fair share of taxes. Wait, are you actually saying that my money will actually be used for global warming? I thought you said it was insignificant. Surely you explain the contradiction in this.

 

considering what you've been saying, i doubt it

i did, it is

 

I really don't care what you doubt. Either prove that I don't pay my taxes or don't make any such claims regarding it. And if my money is insignificant then why would it go to global warming?

 

No one is asking you to live without your wallet. But if your wallet becomes more of an obsession than your own life, why would you worry so much about your wallet? You aren't making any sense. You seem to care way more for your wallet than the very air that allows you to have the wallet to begin with. Do away with the government regulated EPA, and your wallet won't mean a thing.

 

how do you prove a negative?

the point that i've been trying to get through to you is that you're not paying any taxes for global warming

 

It's not an obsession but it is my lifeline. I can't meet basic standards of living without it but I have people like you wanting to take even more from me and making it more difficult to make ends meet. How can I fight global warming if I can barely put food on my table?

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Well you're apparently making the claim so you must have some evidence to back it up.

 

That's presuming of course that the EPA made an impact. That's also assuming that entrepreneurs are really THAT short sighted that they'll destroy the planet for mere money. There might be a select few with that mentality, but many people want to live as long as humanly possible to see their dreams come true. If the solutions to AGW started off initially, and only then later on asking for funding there might not be opposition to it.

But when your primary solution is a "GAS" tax, to negatively enforce us to not use as much gas. Yes, consider us opposed. Why should the world lower its standards to satisfy some primary belief system about how we're all gonna die if we don't "do something"? Here's a suggestion for the AGW crowd: Come up with a feasible solution that maintains our high quality standard of living without having us break even more to the bank.

Basically, come up with something that does more good than harm and we'll support it. We're not obtuse, we're self-preserving ourselves. Just not in the suicidal way Al Gore wants us to for his stocks.

 

the point that i've been trying to get through to you is that you're not paying any taxes for global warming

if you disagree with my logic, show me evidence that i'm mistaken

they made a big impact with the 'acid rain program'

"Overall, the Program's cap and trade program has been hailed as successful by the EPA, industry, economists and certain environmental groups such as the Environmental Defense Fund, while skeptical environmentalists have argued that reduction in emissions occurred due to broad trends unconnected to the program. The EPA has used what is called the Integrated Planning Model (IPM) to estimate the effect of the Acid Rain Program (ARP). The output from the model says that annual emissions of sulfur dioxide were reduced by 8 million tons (from 17.3 to 9.3), nitrogen oxides by 2.7 million tons (from 7.6 to 5), and mercury by 10 tons (from 52 to 42). However, it is difficult to estimate the emissions which would have occurred without the ARP. For example, the EPA updated its analysis to reflect the effect of low-sulfur coal becoming more economical due to reduced transportation, leading the EPA to reduce its estimate of the impact of ARP by sulfur dioxide emissions by one million tons."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_Rain_Program

 

I think you guys will get rain IMO as we move towards the spring. Winter generally doesn't have much rainfall. As an example, I haven't had a storm in the last 5 months IMO.

 

I asked where the government would get the money from. You said taxes, which by the way you said you doubted when I told you I pay them. You also said I wasn't paying money for global warming. So which is it, am I not paying taxes or am I paying for global warming which you claimed that I wasn't?

 

you can't seem to get anything right

 

Then explain everything fully. Every time I ask you to do that you give short single sentences and name calling. It shouldn't be that difficult for you.

 

This is what it looks like without an EPA; https://www.google.com/search?q=ima...v&sa=X&ei=QXnhVP3DLNPasASliYD4BQ&ved=0CB0QsAQ Enough said!

 

i have, you just won't accept it

 

Good god is that really China? **Shudders** Well, I think we Americans are sanitary enough to prevent that from happening. IMO, not all businesses are sleezeballs that'd let that happen to the country.

 

No you haven't. Here's the sum of your answers. "people pay for it", "your money is insignificant", "it's paid for by taxes", "you don't pay for it", "you're a deadbeat". If you were a college student being graded on a paper you wouldn't even make a high F. You lack substance in your explanations. Their's not a single person with any amount of credibility who would let that slide. So either I'm extremely slow in which case you break it down for me step by step,
or you're just making things up as you go. If everything you've said is true then you shouldn't have any problem backing it all up in detail. Anything less just supports the notion of dishonesty on your part.

 

We get most of our rain nov through march, we are WAY behind right now. I think we are below 50% of avg for this time of year.

 

What about pointing to ice cores that suggest that the climate has fluctuated dramatically in short periods of time, or that we are still at the tail end of the of a 'mini ice age' ? The data is there.. look it up.

 

This made no sense as a response. Would you try again after a good night's sleep?

 

I love your sense of humor.

 

It is really rather a huge laugh when global warming loons cant hold a rally because there is too much snow and too cold. Looks like they would get the hint.