So who here wants the government to rule the internet

Who took usenet away?

 

Giving free stuff to people who pay you money each month is called making sales.




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Not sure it can be taken away. Only way to end it is turn off all the servers providing it, which would not be taking it away but leaving it behind.




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So I'm going to go ahead and stop you right at the start here, and it may be unfair to the rest of your message but I'm drunk and going right to the key point. The job of Comcast and other ISPs is to provide internet content. If that content is causing problems with their infrastructure then they need to upgrade. That fact is actually why Comcast and other cable providers are the main ISPs in their area; they can actually move that content through. As a comparison it would be like Blockbuster back in the day charging Orion for having movies so popular that they kept having to buy new copies to keep up with demand. The difference is that unlike Orion (or say a successful studio) Blockbuster would be introducing their stuff at a discount, comparatively, while minimizing Orion to their customers. It is an unfair comparison because you had Hollywood Video and mom and pop shops providing the same content in the same media (as in everyone had VHS and DVD rather than everyone but Blockbuster providing Betamax).


Again it comes down to local resource monopolies. If there were 3 or 4 cable providers per city no one would give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about Comcasts moves and it would ruin them, but that is not the case. If you want reasonable speeds you have to use whatever your local provider is. Yes, you can go dialup or slightly faster, but to get an internet that works, you need something better. Believe me I tried with a DSL here to get away from Comcast, and it doesn't work.

 

Assuming you are sober it may be time to reevaluate your thinking.

The job of any business is to attract and retain customers.

Perhaps. Perhaps not. If a content provider is consuming resources then the content provider and/or the consumer of that content must pay for the consumed resources.

You will have to explain why you believe this is relevant to your argument.

So your belief is the government which established the monopolies is the solution to monopoly?

Wouldn't it be better to petition your local government to end monopoly power that it granted?

 

...and there are fellow Americans who agree with the government and they want to pay new taxes for the privilege of using the internet that we created. Some government agency may have created the original concept of the internet, but what the people from all over the world have transformed it into had nothing to do with government.

Government: "Oh look, something useful and productive that the people have created to communicate, exchange ideas and expand education with each other, and provided entertainment and expand commerce... and OMG!!! to discuss politics... we need to tax it, regulate it, control and mold it."

 

The government does not want to "rule" the internet (Observe the purposely phrased "rule the internet" designed to get people all riled up about nothing). The government wants to keep a few wealthy elites from ruling the Internet.

The government's job is to protect ALL Americans from the dastardly rule of a few wealthy people. The ones who will charge us more in order enrich their own bottom line. These rulers have brainwashed a lot of easily fooled people into believing that OUR government should not be allowed to stop them from screwing us. On this one, I'm in favor of the government, as I really hate being screwed by the power hungry elite.

Hopefully, the majority will see through their deceit and keep the internet neutral so we can ALL afford it.

 

Let us hope this particular tyranny does not happen.

 

Most people don't think it's tyranny, but rather something good for the internet.

 

If the public is generally happy with the internet, why fix what aint broken????

 

May I point out how the government "fixed" healthcare with obamacare?

 

They are not happy about the data caps and "fast lanes."

Internet is not broken. ISPs intend to break it. Net neutrality ensures they don't.

 

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And who gets to set the rules.

 

Most people are wrong, then.

 

No more than those who think it is tyranny.

 

Can you tell me by what authority the federal government will seize control of the Internet?

 

Can you tell me how will the government "seize control" of the internet?

 

Unresponsive, repetitive and moronic.

 

They love pretending the opposite don't they?

 

This doesn't even MEAN anything in the context of the internet. Maybe they will turn the internet into a unicorn that farts soap bubbles filled with leprechaun rainbows.

 

They will do it by pretending that it is something it is not and claim the right to regulate it. It is unfolding before our eyes.

 

How will your internet experience be affected is what I want to know.

The reason most people support it is because internet experience will be affected negatively without net neutrality. If you can argue that it will be even worse with FCC, tell us.

 

So the problem that occurred between Netflix and Comcast was caused by the infrastructure Netflix was using being insufficient to their requirements. The resulting conflict was taken to court as is the appropriate remedy for a contractual conflict where the two parties disagree about their respective responsibilities. No additional government interference necessary if the parties can come to a solution via existing arbitration avenues.

As for the problem of local monopolies, there really isn't one today. There are currently 23 ISPs serving my zip code and in my experience, which does include a fair amount of time in rural Oklahoma and Texas, there aren't many places without some kind of wireless service, cable and/or satellite, all of which are likely to offer internet access.

 

If we don't enact rules that we don't have now then our experience, which is okay now, will be worse in the future. What nonsense?

If we give the government any sort of power they will misuse it. It's in the nature of the beast.

There will always be suckers who actually believe the government is there to help them.

 

Many people have internet service with data cap. Many get throttled. And many cannot see Netflix in HD despite having a 25mbps download speed.
I personally haven't experienced any of that, but I know some others do. My experience with internet is okay, theirs isn't. Net Neutrality(NN) should hopefully alleviate these problems they have.

Government sometimes misuse power, sometimes they don't. Just because some cops shoot innocent citizens, we don't take away their guns, because there are good cops who only shoot criminals that harm citizens.

Most of the time government isn't looking out for the little people, but sometimes our interests align, and that's when they get strong support.

You want someone to blame, blame the telcos because their greed is the root of the problem and planted the seed for NN.

 

Quietly, and with respect...Bull...they want to control political speech and they want to tax traffic while growing government. As little government does is done well, I can not see anything but a bad result for everyone except government and the political class.