>>>MOD WARNING<<< U of OK frat banned after racist chant

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Channe, Mar 9, 2015.

  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2015
    Messages:
    71,765
    Likes Received:
    91,784
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    One can only assume that a person playing offensive rap music will now be in trouble, right? Not.
     
  2. leekohler2

    leekohler2 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2013
    Messages:
    10,163
    Likes Received:
    66
    Trophy Points:
    0
    As is post #33 above.
     
  3. cpicturetaker

    cpicturetaker New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2012
    Messages:
    6,147
    Likes Received:
    40
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I just saw that, here's SOME of the actual lyrics. CNN wouldn't go there. (And I can't spell it out HERE)....

    University of Oklahoma frat investigated after video of &#8216;Never be a n****r SAE&#8217; sing-along goes viral
    Tom Boggioni TOM BOGGIONI
    08 MAR 2015 AT 22:19 ET
    FacebookTwitterMore
    College student leading racist sing-along (Screencapture)

    The University of Oklahoma is investigating one of their on-campus fraternities after a video of members of the frat singing a racist song was posted online and went viral.

    According to Tulsa World, the national president of the Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternity said Sunday evening that the OU SAE chapter has been given an immediate cease and desist order just hours after the video appeared online.

    In the brief video, posted on Twitter by a group of black students called OU_Unheard, the frat brothers can be heard singing and clapping along to a song with the repeated lyrics of &#8220;There will never be a n****r SAE,&#8221; along with a line about lynching, &#8220;You can hang them from a tree (inaudible)&#8221;.

    The cease and desist order comes hours after OU President David Boren opened an investigation into the fraternity after seeing the video.
     
  4. Oxymoron

    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2008
    Messages:
    8,968
    Likes Received:
    56
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Excuses? No it is the left loonies who vilify anything outside of PC bull(*)(*)(*)(*) they pander, but defend to the death true life traitors under free speech banner.
     
  5. Casper

    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2012
    Messages:
    12,540
    Likes Received:
    72
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Playing a song and singing it are two different things, most people know that.
     
  6. micfranklin

    micfranklin Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2009
    Messages:
    17,729
    Likes Received:
    1,887
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Shoulda thought about that before they got recorded being pricks.
     
  7. reallybigjohnson

    reallybigjohnson Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2012
    Messages:
    8,849
    Likes Received:
    1,415
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Two questions pop to mind: What kind of loser joins a social fraternity. I get business and professional fraterinities because they can provide networking and practice with meeting people in that field. But what kind of idiot has to join a frat or sorority just to hang out and drink. I can do that with my friends all by myself because I am an adult and don't need my hand held.

    Second, it takes a special kind of moron to stand up and chant this stuff in the day of cell phone cameras.

    Kudos to the person that blew the whistle (I am assuming it was a chapter member) and considering that SAE was founded in Alabama maybe people should think long and hard about joining it anywhere in the country.
     
  8. justlikethat

    justlikethat New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2014
    Messages:
    3,652
    Likes Received:
    25
    Trophy Points:
    0
    What would they be arrested for?

    Were the New Black Panthers arrested for voter intimidation, that is a crime.
    And if you have to ask about the first amendment, you are truly lost in this discussion.
     
  9. micfranklin

    micfranklin Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2009
    Messages:
    17,729
    Likes Received:
    1,887
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Saying what you want doesn't mean you can't get called out for it.
     
  10. Casper

    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2012
    Messages:
    12,540
    Likes Received:
    72
    Trophy Points:
    48
    They are not that smart, racism is based on ignorance, stupidity and fear, there is a cure for he first and last ones, but the middle one is not curable, hence they simply are what they are.
     
  11. justlikethat

    justlikethat New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2014
    Messages:
    3,652
    Likes Received:
    25
    Trophy Points:
    0
    But it does expose liberal hypocrisy and I'm calling them out on it.
     
  12. Casper

    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2012
    Messages:
    12,540
    Likes Received:
    72
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Really, where have I done that? I will wait while you get your "stuff" together. Leave to a rightie to open their mouth and stick their foot in it, stop it, that is Palins trick and she may have a patent on it.
     
  13. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    25,855
    Likes Received:
    5,926
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This is disgusting. The frat has been suspended which I think is the right move.
     
  14. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2011
    Messages:
    48,910
    Likes Received:
    9,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Should have thought of what? Society's double standard?
     
  15. Blasphemer

    Blasphemer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2011
    Messages:
    2,404
    Likes Received:
    53
    Trophy Points:
    48
    When the university is public, then yes it is potentially an issue of free speech. Private schools may restrict speech however they want, but not public ones, or those recieving public money. In such universities, even racist students have a right to study, as long as they are not overly disruptive. Whether that is the case here is open to interpretation.
     
  16. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2008
    Messages:
    15,691
    Likes Received:
    151
    Trophy Points:
    63
    ......Their comments, which is what happens in countries where free speech isn't all the rage.

    I see no reason why they shouldn't have been arrested, but this thread isn't about them. Focus.
     
  17. micfranklin

    micfranklin Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2009
    Messages:
    17,729
    Likes Received:
    1,887
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No, just that no one is forcing you to obey PC'ness but that if you think you can say anything you want and not get some treatment for it, you're wrong.

    People have a habit of thinking that freedom of speech is simply that with no reprecussions.
     
  18. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 16, 2013
    Messages:
    14,961
    Likes Received:
    4,064
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It's legal to remove the flag and it's also legal to say bigoted chants. But that doesn't mean the chapter leadership can't do what they want with specific houses.
     
  19. Dale Cooper

    Dale Cooper Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2013
    Messages:
    5,575
    Likes Received:
    127
    Trophy Points:
    63
    EXACTLY!!!!!

    The university is a STATE university. The chanting/singing was done on a CHARTERED BUS (private) encompassing a PRIVATE party. This incident was not disruptive because it was basically on PRIVATE property (chartered bus).

    They're free to say, sing, and chant what they wish.

    Edit to add: I'm watching the news conference, delayed because of rain. It's fun watching them backtrack and admit the students were practicing their right to free speech and "probably can't be dismissed", blah blah blah. It's hilarious! They've nowhere to go with this. As I said, it's a NON-ISSUE. Everyone is using the word "DISPICABLE" but it's all they can say. They know what the kids on the bus did was just have fun.
     
  20. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2008
    Messages:
    15,691
    Likes Received:
    151
    Trophy Points:
    63
    The 1st Amendment bars the United States govt. from punishing you for your speech, i.e. being detained, arrested, convicted, incarcerated, etc.. While it is not absolute, you're free to express your racially inflammatory filth without fearing grand govt. punishment. This is not a free speech issue.

    and we're talking about a private fraternity, which has every right to remove these characters from their group.
     
  21. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 16, 2013
    Messages:
    14,961
    Likes Received:
    4,064
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What double standard ? No one is saying this chant should be illegal.
     
  22. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2008
    Messages:
    15,691
    Likes Received:
    151
    Trophy Points:
    63
    You are also mistaken.
     
  23. leekohler2

    leekohler2 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2013
    Messages:
    10,163
    Likes Received:
    66
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Nope, not one person has said that.
     
  24. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 16, 2013
    Messages:
    14,961
    Likes Received:
    4,064
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And the chapter management is free to shut them down.

    Are right wingers not aware of how Free Speech works ?
     
  25. micfranklin

    micfranklin Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2009
    Messages:
    17,729
    Likes Received:
    1,887
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    For the millionth time, just because you CAN chant something like that doesn't mean you SHOULD.
     

Share This Page