NRA Meeting, Ted Nugent Talked About Shooting Harry Reid

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  1. Pardy

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    Ted Nugent tells NRA audience he would like to gun down Harry Reid

    Aside from the usual racism and anger seen at NRA meetings, this annual convention cheered Nugent for saying he'd try to shoot Harry Reid. On stage, Nugent called Harry Reid a "lying prick" and said that he would "shoot him" if given the opportunity. The crowd cheered and raised heir hands to clap.

    At the end of the video, Nugent talks about Marines defending freedom. Yes, Mr. Poopy Pants Draft Dodger used the military to defend his claim.

    As the far right radicalizes, and ostracizes themselves, they have no right to complain about being shut out of Washington. Sure, they'll resort to nasty protests when they don't get their way, but they never stop to think that they don't get their way because they don't actually represent real American values. In fact, the average American would be shocked an appalled at this kind of behavior.

    But of course the NRA supports violence and violent rhetoric. The NRA makes money from violence and insecurity. Unfortunately, the cost to society will be more dead citizens. Around 30,000 per year die from gun violence, and the NRA keeps earning their blood money while convincing ignorant people that only guns reduce gun violence.
     
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    There is no racism at NRA meetings and Roy and Niger Innis are or have been directors

    what causes your silly hatred of the NRA-A love of Dingy Harry or the far more likely reason-you generally vote for people that the NRA opposes

    calling the NRA (which many gun rights advocates see as moderate and too willing to compromise) as the far right only shows how far left you truly are

    the NRA costs society NOTHING. and its you gun restrictionists who welcome and benefit from massacres-not us honest gun owners or the NRA
     
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    Where exactly is the racism? Point it out to us, or drop the argument.

    During the presidency of George W. Bush, many advocated for his death as well.

    If you condemn those that cheer the proposed death of Harry Reid, you must condemn everyone who wishes any politician dead, no matter their political orientation, or race.
     
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    Well, I wish the NRA would dump Ted Nugent. I find Nugent to be a disgusting man that doesn't do anything to further gun rights.

    30,000 a year die from guns, only if you categorize suicide as gun violence. In 2013, around 33,000 died from guns (all causes). Of those about 21,000 were suicides. Studies show that when countries have banned guns, while suicide from guns goes down, overall suicides remains the same. Categorizing suicides as gun violence, IMHO, is just this side of lying.
     
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    It is outright lying. There is no "just this side of lying" when suicide is counted as an act of violence.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As for the racism, how many times was George W. Bush called "Osama"?

    How is blowing your brains out not violent?
     
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    suicide is not categorized as violent crime so stop the nonsense. and Don't pretend that the reason why people bash the NRA is over suicides.
     
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    Again, where exactly is the racism? Point to what examples of racism to the NRA has practiced. Are we to conclude that name calling is now an example of racism?

    Because slitting your own wrists is not violent either. One cannot commit violence against themselves, only another person.
     
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    So, if I slit somebody's wrists, it's a non-violent murder. Maybe I'll get a lighter sentence.
     
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    that's really stupid to compare murder with suicide. and why the phony facade about crime. why do you pretend that your hatred of the NRA is based on crime given that the NRA is note exactly friendly with criminals (unlike say the Democrat party and the ACLU)
     
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    Of course the NRA doesn't support gun violence. How absurd. Gun violence gives the NRA a black eye because folks like you can't distinguish between law abiding legal gun owners, and criminals that use illegal guns to create victims. People like you refuse to acknowledge that the bulk of the gun violence stats come from drug wars in the ghettos of metropolitan areas, and suicides. These numbers also include good police shootings and legitimate self defense shootings. The NRA does not sell guns so they are not making money from gun sales. They are membership driven with more that 6 million members that vote. The NRA safety programs are unmatched by any other organization in America.
     
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    Yawn, Nugent made the comment as an aside. When you have a real threat - like the one this democrat shouted directly at a 2nd Amendment supporter - then you'll have something to whine about.

    http://weaselzippers.us/197271-minn...hreatens-to-shoot-him-ill-blow-your-head-off/
     
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    if he really did that, death threats against Congress members is a serious crime


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    Suicide is not an example of violence, whether you choose to slit your wrists, or shoot yourself.

    Homicide is not comparable to suicide. There cannot be homicide without the element of violence. Or in simpler terms, homicide always involves the use of violence against another.
     
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    if one makes an aside comment like that say on this board or Facebook or something, they are probably going to prison, death threats are not to be taken lightly
     
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    Yet apparently death threats against pizzerias that do not wish to cater to homosexual marriages, is not a crime at all.
     
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    Well, he didn't exactly say that. Love the way the media takes things out of context: (from Pardy's link http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/04/14/video-at-nra-annual-meeting-ted-nugent-talked-a/203274 )


    Yes, it was a stupid thing to say, but not exactly a threat. As I said in an earlier post, I think Nugent is a reprehensible man (based on his draft dodging and his sexual antics as a rockstar), and I wish the NRA would stop inviting him to stuff. He doesn't help our cause any--he's just a has-been rockstar with a big mouth who happens to like guns (and underaged girls).

    - - - Updated - - -

    Read the entire scenario.
     
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    was that guy not arrested yet, last I heard he was suspended from his job and being investigated
     
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    It is difficult to believe that a single person could be responsible so many direct death threats, that the owners felt compelled to close up shop, and leave the state for their own safety.
     
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    she ticked off a lot of people, sadly some of them were crazy people, glad they caught him, hope he does some time then when he gets out they also make him get mental treatment as well

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    I'm going to have to call you out on this one. Could you provide just three incidents at NRA "meetings" of examples of racism ? How about just one ?

    I've been a member of the NRA for almost fifty years and didn't even know they had meetings. I feel unwelcome now never being invited to a NRA meeting.

    Nugent talks about Marines defending freedom while those on the left never do. We already know that and it's noted.

    BTW: Using "High Times" magazine and the "Detroit Free Press" as a source that Nugent was a "draft dodger." :roflol:
    Bill Clinton was a draft dodger considering he received his induction orders two or three times and someone else always had to take his place each time. Nugent never received any induction orders because Nugent Selective Service classification record shows he was classified as 1-Y and 4-F for 1969 and 1972 respectively, indicating ineligibility for military service.
     
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    Nugent was a draft dodger, albeit by faking mental illness partly by snorting some crystal meth. The High Times article was an interview of Nugent. He freely admitted to using drugs and to faking mental illness.



    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/ted-nugent-draft-dodger-467132

    http://dangerousminds.net/comments/...(*)(*)(*)_in_his_own_pants_to_avoid_the_draft

    The NRA has national conventions. You should see info about them in the American Rifleman (or whichever NRA mag you choose).
     
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    Aside from the pedophilia and wife beatings....what goes on at your liberal get togethers?
     
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    Nugent spoke a lot of truth. Harry Reid is a liar, a prick, and a deceitful despicable little man.

    Why do progs complain so much when someone speaks the truth? Why do progs hate the truth?
     
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    You don't get out much, do you? Did the democrat go to prison? Then, it's unlikely Nugent will either. Unless someone is actually planning to do another person fatal harm, their comments are usually dismissed as just hotheaded nonsense. Do you know how many ex-spouses would be in prison right now if they imprisoned folks for making stupid threats?

    As far as this forum or Facebook, the person would most certainly be banned. If the threat was serious enough, the authorities would probably be notified.

    But, as I pointed out before, an "aside" isn't even as strong as a direct threat - and even a direct threat is taken in stride if it's said in a fit of anger.
     

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