$4 Million for Climate Change research

"Sheeple. People unable to think for themselves. Followers. Lemmings. Those with no cognitive ablilities of their own".

research has determined that the climate is and has always been changing due to natural factors that humans play no part in, such as; volcanic eruptions, sun flares, position of the earth, etc. The majority of Scientists agree that humans, while playing a role through use of fossil fuels, represent a small contribution to global climate change, whether warming or cooling and that decreasing fossil fuel use throughout the Countries of the world by even 50% will have a very minimal impact on the temperature, one way or another. This is a simple, undeniable fact that cannot be reputed.

 

A research is something different, I think they have chosen one who knows it all, beforehand.....
Regards

 

Ha! Seems we have won!

But Chris Pyne is being a pain

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-...for-ditching-bjorn-lomborg-think-tank/6457210

But Joyce is being a twonk

So, Mr Joyce, does that mean that any university teaching evolution MUST also teach "creationism" Do theological colleges also have to teach about the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

 

I can't believe any university would reject a $4 million grant for research. The PC loony left have really out done themselves on this one.

 

If this money were to go instead to researching creationism or Gaiaism of drinking urine as a way to health and fitness - would you still object??

BTW Here is a critique of Lomborg's "research"

http://www.lomborg-errors.dk/

 

Research done and results locked away by the LNP.

Air/gas force 100% converts to water pressure.

DaS Valve the LNP deny the Clerk of Parliament consent to display as Australians would copy for home and industry electricity supply.

Hydro turbine 92% efficient. Steam turbine 30% efficient.

Coal Pollution Carbon-CO2 and Steam both have all the properties of water.

Carbon-CO2 changes from ice to gas, then to liquid, then to gas, then to liquid that is gas, then to ice, all the while getting hotter. Now if only if Steam would do that.

Water has no Steam/Gas force at +50*C. Carbon-CO2 has 200 atmospheres of pressure at +50*C. Steam has 1 atmosphere pressure at +100*C. Carbon-CO2 has 10,000 atmospheres of pressure at +100*C. Steam has 200 atmospheres of pressure at +600*C.

QLD Tarong Coal fired Steam power station produces 350 megawatts using Steam +600*C -200 atmosphers pressure.

 

meanwhile this is what republicans wasted money on

"DOMA: House Republicans Poised To Spend $3 Million On Legal Defense"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/15/doma-republicans_n_2479666.html

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My biggest concern is that UWA only acted due to the huge backlash from the public, and to some part also from its own staff.

I think the CEO, coCEO have to stand down....

Money has become such an important issue, the greed even that UNI shows/ed is atrocious.

If a UNI of such a rank acts on such a cheap seducement, decisions need to be made.

They acted like a whore, and it was never about the objectivity of the subject of climate change....

Regards

 

ABC ran the funding has been pulled, print media is quite.

 

Meanwhile the adults will judge things on what actually happens, not fearmongering..... you know, like climate science

Not about personality agendas. It's this sort of personality hatred which really undermines the climate debate. You should not be able to bully one point of view out of the debate because you do not agree with it. The left is too ignorant to realize their own stupidity.

 

So you would be happy if a university offered courses in creationism or the Flying Spaghetti Monster??

 

Do you think he will ever come up with something else?
He hates critical people, especially those who care. And those not voting for Tone, and those with a different belief, and those with a darker skin, and those and those and those....
Bb, you won't change him, we are just wasting our time....
Regards

 

More fear mongering disinformation hey, I guess its all you've got since the left stamped their feet and cried like babies about the imaginary 'what-if'! No need to perpetuate it by covering it with a layer of BS as well.

 

LOL, it means so much that you'd put so much effort into imagining this much detail. I say imagined because its quite delusional to anything I've posted. I think you should re-assess how you 'view' the world if you think my opinion is closed minded. I've always provided clear reasons for my opinions, just because you fall on your own subjective bias as your 'reason' doesnt mean it's a good one for you. It actually sounds quite hypocritical of you, but I do understand not everyone has the time or capacity to express the reasons they might actually have an opinion. Keep at it, I'd love some real debate instead of the shallow hate filled rhetoric most of the 'left' post.

 

Ah such scientific acumen - based on no knowledge whatsoever

It was not "the left" but a combination of academics, business investors and the students themselves - or did you not read the ABC report

 

Anyone who has done even the most cursory review of Lomborg's "research" and "outcomes" would be embarrassed that he was named to be part of anything

 

And the church of AGW swings into action to discredit and neutralise another dissenting heretic.....

 

So please AM tell us, with your enlightened mind, is climate change for real?
Let us assume it is, is the opinion and finding of so many scientists around the world exaggerated? Let us also assume, not all scientists are lefties, but devoted to their job.
And if it isn't, who would have an advantage of creating something that big if it isn't?
As you are so clever, you certainly will tell us.....
Regards

 

I have never denied that our climate is changing. The earths climate has always changed, it has never remained constant for any length of time. A few hundred years ago we were in the grip of the mini ice age, a thousand years ago the climate was so warm the Vikings were able to colonise Greenland. Climate change is nothing new.

 

In fact some believe that climate change is the reason for mass extinctions, caused by what are huge lava flows called Traps;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap_rock

Such as;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deccan_Traps

Real science would be investigating other possible causes of any anomaly, rather then investing in building one particular case such as the human CO2 emissions crowd do. It's hilarious the projection the pro-global warming crowd throw out from their own behaviour, but as can be seen by this thread once the sheeple group think emotional contagion sets in, the sheep will bite just to feel like part of the flock. Hint; its not a good idea for sheep to bite anything.

 

Especially since he believes in human cause Climate Change

 

Hi mate,
you don't get it, do you? No offence meant!
To me it is completely irrelevant to what degree climate change is caused by us!
But it is relevant that we do as much as we can to stop our contribution towards climate change. Every country should do as much as they can....
And at this point in time, we do very little. That's all.....
Regards

 

I probably get it more then you..... its harder for bigger countries due to large transportation footprints and the difficulties in transmitting power over distance, else we'd have huge solar farm's in the bush and everyone would be happy. Plus we do not use nuclear, which makes a huge difference. Not to mention our economy being based on mining itself. Progress is being made, but to compare it in simple terms to most other nations is patently absurd.

Now imagine that the human influence is negligible compared to natural sources and the potential for huge natural variability in climate change events, the cost has to be managed in real terms to the impact on the economy and the environment. No-one is arguing to make more pollution, so the only issue I have is with the ridiculous emotional ignorance from the pro-Gore mob and their ardent struggle against anyone who disagree's - it's embarrassing to the human race that stupidity gets so much air time.

 

So you are not interested in any facts? How do you know any climate change is "caused" by us?

Why? You don't even know if we contribute anything toward climate change, let alone anything significant or measureable or demonstratable. How do you know a bit of climate change won't be beneficial? Every previous climate warming episode as resulted in mankind prospering.

What do you think we can do that will have any measurable affect on the earths climate?
What you have given us with your post is a good example of the unreasoning, blind, AGW groupthink.

Symptoms of Groupthink

Pychologist Irving Janis (1972), has documented eight symptoms of groupthink:

Illusion of invulnerability –Creates excessive optimism that encourages taking extreme risks.
Collective rationalization – Members discount warnings and do not reconsider their assumptions.
Belief in inherent morality – Members believe in the rightness of their cause and therefore ignore the ethical or moral consequences of their decisions.
Stereotyped views of out-groups – Negative views of “enemy” make effective responses to conflict seem unnecessary.
Direct pressure on dissenters – Members are under pressure not to express arguments against any of the group’s views.
Self-censorship – Doubts and deviations from the perceived group consensus are not expressed.
Illusion of unanimity – The majority view and judgments are assumed to be unanimous.
Self-appointed ‘mindguards’ – Members protect the group and the leader from information that is problematic or contradictory to the group’s cohesiveness, view, and/or decisions

Apart from the first symptom, all the others make up a good description of the alarmist adherents to the church of agw.

 

Sorry but "real science IS investigating climate change - in fact there are thousands of papers published every year as for the Deccan Traps - er what point are you trying to make about an area that stopped erupting some 66 million years ago.........................