Imagine you are black

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by JeffYoung, May 18, 2015.

  1. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes the crap the youth of today hears from the Democrats and these biased teachers and professors. They are spoon fed this crap continually on how bad and uncaring Whites and Republicans are. Prime example.

    [video=youtube;nVyPjQki_3M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVyPjQki_3M[/video]
     
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    I was:clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping: interesting you think black people are so inaccessible you think nobody in this forum is black
    while i like that you want too understand the plight of african americans, you a white person, never being victimized by racism, are stating you know where racism comes from. Based on what experience do you make this claim?

    the same im black
    no because this isn't 1945 we have affirmative action now, the collective disparity of the group is not reflective of the disparity of each individual
    I can't imagine a white parent saying its okay that their kid was murdered by a cop, because the cop was white, you clearly dont understand police brutality in the non-white community
    yes
    say what you mean just because the white supremacists on this forum assault anyone and everyone talking about racial equality doesn't mean you have too censor your words, trust me the mods hate these guys more than you. What you mean to say is "that if white supremacists just imagined what it's like to be black they'd have more pity for them" am I right?
     
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    Yep, government sanctioned (leftist government) social engineering inside schools by way of blatant political propaganda taught as FACT rather than opinion. Most youths will believe the man because he is pretending that he's presenting incontrovertible fact rather than the nastiest form of political propaganda . . . and if they ever do rethink what they were taught it will only be many years later after a host of life experiences informs them that what they were taught way-back-when was utter garbage.

    But, alas, many of them will never reach the point of applying cold hard intellect to what they were taught in their youth.
     
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    But where is the evidence of no racial differences? It seems like a point of wishful thinking faith rather than something based on looking at the world.
     
  5. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can't help but notice when you feed some people the truth, they want to ignore it and pretend they never saw it. These people would rather pick out a post they think they can win points on rather than face the truth of what and why things are happening like they are. That's why nothing gets changed. People are afraid to face the truth.
     
  6. Johnny-C

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    I've been an American all of my life... and even today, I see numerous people of all ethnic groups wearing hoodies or similar objects of clothing. And ski-type masks are everywhere in cold weather.

    I'm just saying, as ominous as "appearance" can seem... THAT is not the problem. I mean, are we going to tell Black people that they cannot or should not wear "afros", or that White people should not wear cowboy boots/hats? Eventually, that all goes too far... and we know that.

    What you're pointing out, I understand (as a longtime military vet, especially; uniformity was a BIG thing for me). I'm just saying it is time for America to live UP to that claim of "liberty" and "freedom" we so ceremoniously espouse in the most convenient ways/times.

    We need to become as REAL in what we do, as what we say. People cannot stand the BS as much as they used to. We need to change.

    But in the interest of FULL disclosure... I DO encourage people to dress as reasonably and appropriately as possible. Better education is a part of that. In the military, there were places we went... where blending-in and relating to the people in that nation/locality was absolutely essential to the mission at hand. What AMERICANS (I've noticed) do not take seriously enough, here in our own land, is that they really DO have to buckle-down, get a real grip and work at relating to other Americans. Personally, I'm so very tired of people talking about Americans of other sub-groups as if they are "strangers" (in their own land). I mean, WHERE THE F' are the cultural values which extol the necessary value of properly relating to 'OTHERS' who are American??!

    Come on folks!! We've taking this separatism BS way too far. Really, that other American is just as much a part of this society (and just as important to its well-being) as you yourself.

    Wake the F' up, take on the task of facing your fears and REALLY being the BETTER (exceptional) Americans people are always 'claiming' we are (when we aren't, down where the rubber meets the road). Let's cease BS'ing ourselves as a nation. BE excellent... don't just let people keep filling your head with accolades that we don't come close to living up to. Let's BE what we 'say' we are!! Once this nation truly soars, we will ALL feel and benefit from it.

    Yeah, I understand... I wore a uniform to do my job for a LONG TIME. All I'm adding to the mix, is the idea that we need to really learn to care about how other human beings ARE, than how they look.

    All that being said, dressing to fit-in isn't always a bad thing; but it should not be at the top of the list of things we regard about someone. We have to be less 'superficial' than that, going forward.
     
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    Do you not see any correlation between how people present themselves and their conduct?
     
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    So I'm lucky cuz I didn't get aborted...

    Like less abortion

    Well, I'm a black man now, so it is impossible for me to be racist. I'm finally free to use the N-word, call Mexicans and Asians all the nasty stuff I want and no matter what.... I can't be called racist

    uh... the same... except my skin is black and liberals say because of that I can't be racist.

    Going to school is deemed "actin white"

    47th trimester abortion, payed for by the government

    Or over estimating my rap skills. Hey look... an Asian, bet he's good at math and drives slow

    People who buy into race and racial issues are just as ignorat as the people who preach racial issues and spew racism
     
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    Amen!

    You have it right, Jeff. And it is refreshing to hear someone point those things out, without having to wring it out of them intellectually.

    Just keep in mind now and going ahead... SOME people do NOT want the type of 'unity' you are promoting amongst Americans to come to full fruition. You see, they benefit (bank upon) people remaining divided and STUPIDLY against one another. It is literally a part of their plan to 'divide' and 'conquer' those who stand in their way. They are NOT for one side or the other, they are FOR weakening whatever stands in the way of them doing what they want to do. (It is nothing new, this "divide and conquer".)

    And they damned sure... intend for their 'methods' to be subtle (or undetectable), but they won't be to those who are enlightened as you are beginning to be. In fact, I think scores of Americans are beginning to see more what the 'dividers' want.

    We live in exciting times (as usual)!! :)
     
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    Enough!!

    You are just a "divider".

    Back to 'ignore' with you.

    Goodbye.
     
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    Nonsense. It was YOU who originally implied that genes made such a big difference.
    This discussion has occurred over at least 30 years that I can remember personally, and it's common knowledge that ALL ethnic groups are essentially equal.

    Now, if you want to go on about how we can alter a person's skin, eyes, hair, penis... etc., you'll just have to wait like the rest of us.
     
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    I guess you've never met a Jamaican or Haitian, cause they don't have the same problems as AAs. They wear clothes that fit and get things like jobs and stuff, cause they work hard.
     
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    Well said bro :)
     
  14. Johnny-C

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    Are there ANY problems with White Americans?

    Seriously, how 'perfect' must we be, to stand off ON-HIGH arrogantly pointing out the flaws seen in "others"? (Sarcasm.)

    Please, what you are suggesting is nonsensical, overall.
     
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    Black activists are starting to take this too far, people who aren't even racist at all are getting sick and tired of all of this.

    Yes there are some bad cops out there, however "the movement" won't accept any responsibility whatsoever that many black people are in their situation by their own accords.

    The black movement before was for equal rights which they gained in a fantastic way.

    What is it really searching for now?

    Black gangs kill far more people than police do. And in almost every incident you see the black person struggling violently with an officer. Not every time, but it seems like most of the time.

    The way that MLK fixed things was by getting the people of the US on the side of his cause.

    People are fleeing the new black movement as it is lead by people like Sharpton who cannot admit black people have a single fault.
     
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    He said that inelegantly, for sure (at least in the context that 15 minutes that the class lecture provides)... but I will tag along and say that many Republicans do 'fit' that description (certainly not all). But we have to ask:

    How many does it take (in perhaps key positions or capacities), to make that true enough to more than a few??

    From what I've been seeing, the Republicans are at least fairly 'mean' (my very nicest way of describing things about them). And again, that is not ALL Republicans (only too many).
     
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    In people's perceptions/expectations, I do.

    I've also seen people committing HIGH CRIMES in $500 suits; crimes that touch MILLIONS of people at a time.

    Go figure.
     
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    You are leaving out so much. It's as though you cannot understand 'cultural' differences; it's not just about skin color or appearance.

    Please.
     
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    because we see the same difference in whites as blacks, thus we know it's not a racial difference

    maybe mean blacks are mean cause they have mean white slave owner genes in them? maybe the same genes that beat slaves and burned crosses in the past..... riot and burns cvs's today

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    Look. 400+ years and into the present, Black Americans have gotten sh__, typically for no less than having a certain appearance.

    Do you really think that ALL of the problem we see are THEIR (exclusively) to rectify or overcome?!

    Please, add some realism to your view. Your mindset is a part of the sets of problems we are all witnessing.
     
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    So very well-stated!! Amen!
     
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    Well, no we don't. We see huge performance and crime differences.
     
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    Translation: Not what you wanted to hear by way of leftist Politically Correct drivel and yet simultaneously stuff that you could not refute.

    Sweet!
     
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    Should I imagine I am a hard working black like Ben Carson, or a lazy loud mouth like Al Sharpton that thinks the government owes me a living.
     
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    the key is in cold weather, when you wear sky masks or hoddies in warmer weather, something is up imo

    when I go into a store, off would come the face mask or hoddie if I wore one, again, because I do not want to be seen as a threat.....

    I am not telling people what to wear, I am telling people what will help them fit in with the majority of society. if they do not want to fit in, they do not have too, just do not blame it on race....

    example, if a person has their underwear completely showing, I do not want to hang around them or let my family hang around them, nothing to do with race, it has to do with not wanting to hang with people that do not respect themselves, as that is a sign they probably also do not respect others

    if a large number of racist wear kkk outfits, that outfit gets tagged as something only racists wear, the same is happening to the hoddie, they are becoming a gang sign as they hide the face and make one hard to identify, thus criminals like them... because of these trends, people see new people following these trends as fitting the pattern, that is just the reality of it

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