As I said, it is BEHAVIOR, not RACE that gets you shot by the cops...

What your stating isn't racial profiling, that's using stats to narrow down suspects.
Racial profiling is suspecting/accusing one of something regardless what the forensics shows, just because of race.

 

BULL!!! Show 1 million people pictures of a smiling well groomed attractive black man and a skin head and 99.99999% will be more threatened by the skin head. Black people might be targeted by cops more often because black people commit a DISPROPORTIONATE percentage of crimes. Its a proven FACT! You don't profile an old white lady with a cane, because old white ladies with canes are generally NEVER a threat. A black guy no matter how he's dressed, driving an expensive car in crack town, can and SHOULD be profiled IF there was a robbery of an expensive car matching that description?

Profiling is a GOOD thing. Its been happening since the concept of security was invented. Elephants do it. They crowd around their young when lions approach, yet ignore the antelope. WHY? Are they lion-a-phobes or just intelligent=) Who's the BIGGER threat?

 

So is that a problem? Should cops purposely ignore people that fit a profile just to please the PC idiots who get more people killed/hurt due their ignorance?

 

Deflecting? From what? Your bigotry? Do you know what deflection actually means? Or are you doing that thing again where you use words you don't know...

 

Not at all. What complete BS you are trying to peddle here. I am saying that we judge people based on their appearance, their comportment, their language, and yes, the look on their face. If a smiling person comes walking down the sidewalk, you will react to that person differently than you would a scowling person.

You can call it unacceptable if you wish but it is just human nature.

You're going to have a different reaction to this guy...



Than you will to this guy...



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Except it's a complete lie because it's not what I said.

 

Nobody on this thread has suggested that. In fact I am suggesting the opposite: It is BEHAVIOR that gets you shot by the cops. If the Gentle Giant(tm) Michael Brown had simply complied with officers and not behaved the way he did, Ferguson, MO would not have burned.

 

All I know by pointing out these stats and defending the police's use of them, a number of posters said it was racial profiling and then some. Not only on this thread, but others. But I am okay with that. I appreciate that I am not the only one who views using these stats is a justifiable police tool.

 

Only the left consider it "racial" when in fact it is "criminal" profiling.

 

Your premise is that it is one over another. Why can't it be both behavior and race?

 

china brainwashes you.

 

it is so simple, dividing USA in to 2 countries, Obama leads all blacks and most Chinese/Japanese/Korean/SE Asian/indian/hongkongese move to Hawaii,

just give Hawaii to them. The republic of Hawaii. or The single star republic.

 

False. Given the same circumstances and the same behavior, the African American is more likely to be shot than a white man. The chance may be small, but it would be even smaller if he was white. This is a statistical fact.

 

I never claimed all police were prejudiced, you are lying.

My assertion is proven fact. Your refusal to believe it does not change that. You said the one study I referenced was insufficient proof. I don't know what you would consider sufficient proof, so feel free to look into the decades of studies proving the racial disparities at every level of our justice system for yourself.

 

"Bensalem police were called to the scene of an accident around 9:30 a.m. Thursday and arrived in time to see the blue BMW at fault in the crash take off from the scene. Police pursued the vehicle, but called off the pursuit to avoid a high speed chase.

The BMW struck a second vehicle at an intersection, injuring one woman, then drove away again from the scene before striking a third vehicle and coming to a rest.

Police said that Culhane bolted from her car and ran from police.

According to Philadelphia’s NBC Channel 10, Culhane fought as officers tried to take her into custody, kicking one in the head."
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"Joseph Houseman, a 63-year-old "Open Carry" advocate, prompted multiple calls to 911 when he stood in front of a Kalamazoo Dairy Queen with a rifle and shouted at traffic and passersby.

At least one 911 caller was concerned that Houseman may have been intoxicated.

When police responded to the scene, they found Houseman wearing what appeared to be pajama pants and carrying a rifle. When they tried to talk to him, Houseman gave the middle finger to the officers, grabbed his crotch and shouted about revolution, according to video of the incident obtained by the Kalamazoo Gazette and placed online at MLive.com."
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CHURCH HILL — A Hawkins County man who was free on bond after being accused of a drunken road rage incident against a detective in August was back in jail Thursday after allegedly accosting a motorist while carrying a pistol in his waistband.

E.J. "Junior" Walters was arrested Aug. 18 in Kingsport on charges including DUI and retaliation for past actions after allegedly following a Hawkins County detective on Stone Drive in Kingsport and tailgating and swerving his vehicle at the detective while cursing about past investigations that detective had conducted against him.
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CHURCH HILL — A Hawkins County man who was free on bond after being accused of a drunken road rage incident against a detective in August was back in jail Thursday after allegedly accosting a motorist while carrying a pistol in his waistband.

E.J. "Junior" Walters was arrested Aug. 18 in Kingsport on charges including DUI and retaliation for past actions after allegedly following a Hawkins County detective on Stone Drive in Kingsport and tailgating and swerving his vehicle at the detective while cursing about past investigations that detective had conducted against him.
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According to Idaho police, the two intoxicated men walked into the Post Falls Walmart and proceeded to remove BB guns from boxes, before loading one and firing it four times while in the store.
In a report to police, Walmart store security contacted them saying the two men “started shooting the gun in the store and made comments that they were going to shoot the store up.”
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HICKORY Twp., Pa. - Pennsylvania State Police have arrested a man after he reportedly pulled a gun on officers.

Paramedics arrived at the scene of a car accident shortly after 1:30 a.m. on Saturday where 25-year-old Jed Frazier, of Corpus Christi, Texas had driven a truck off of the road and into a ditch.

Police say when they approached Frazier's vehicle it appeared he was going in and out of consciousness and that he refused to acknowledge requests to unlock the vehicle doors.

When officers attempted to gain entry into the vehicle Frazier allegedly pulled a small caliber hand gun from his coat pocket and pointed it at police.
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PHOENIX - A 53-year-old Phoenix man was arrested on Thursday after pointing a gun at firefighters who were called to conduct a welfare check.

Police arrested Steven Whitlock and booked him into jail on charges of aggravated assault and theft.

Phoenix police said authorities were called to an apartment complex near 17th and Missouri avenues around 2:30 p.m. on Christmas Day.

Firefighters arrived first and attempted to contact Whitlock, but he didn't immediately answer the door.

As firefighters were preparing to leave, Whitlock allegedly opened the door with a gun in his hand and pointed it at the firefighters. The firefighters dropped their equipment and ran for cover.
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All instances of people behaving very badly. Armed. Aggressive. Dangerous. White and ALIVE.

Would you like to explain to me again how people being shot and killed by police is all about behavior and not race?

 

MOST violent crime is caused by FATHERLESS kids grown up and acting as bastards do.

 

73% of the Black families are on Welfare raising bastards:



http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1672

The rise of the welfare state in the 1960s contributed greatly to the demise of the black family as a stable institution.
The out-of-wedlock birth rate among African Americans today is 73%, three times higher than it was prior to the War on Poverty.


Children raised in fatherless homes are far more likely to grow up poor and to eventually engage in criminal behavior, than their peers who are raised in two-parent homes. In 2010, blacks (approximately 13% of the U.S. population) accounted for 48.7% of all arrests for homicide, 31.8% of arrests for forcible rape, 33.5% of arrests for aggravated assault, and 55% of arrests for robbery. Also as of 2010, the black poverty rate was 27.4% (about 3 times higher than the white rate), meaning that 11.5 million blacks in the U.S. were living in poverty.

 

Wow. What a false dichotomy.

 

Correct!

They have done studies and valid research on this stuff, but some in this forum seem to think that it's still a matter of opinion. It isn't.

 

???

CHILDREN NEED BOTH PARENTS

63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes. (Source: U.S. D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census).
90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes.
85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes. (Source: Center for Disease Control).
80% of rapist motivated by displaced anger come from fatherless homes. (Source: Criminal Justice and Behavior, Vol. 14, pp. 403-26).
71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. (Source: National Principals A Report on the State of High Schools).
85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home. (Source: Fulton County Georgia jail populations, Texas Dept. Of Corrections, 1992).

These statistics translate to mean that children from fatherless homes are:

5 times more likely to commit suicide
32 times more likely to run away
20 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
14 times more likely to commit rape
9 times more likely to drop out of high school
20 times more likely to end up in prison

Children from "fatherless families of single mother" homes are*:

15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
4.6 times more likely to commit suicide
6.6 times more likely to become teenaged mothers
24.3 times more likely to run away
15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
6.3 times more likely to be in a state-operated institutions
10.8 times more likely to commit rape
6.6 times more likely to drop out of school
15.3 times more likely to end up in prison while a teenage
73% of adolescent murderers come from mother only homes

Daughters who live in mother only homes are 92% more likely to divorce**

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http://www.cato.org/publications/con...-state-crime-0

 

Explain? You really think profiling has led to more harm than good? I wonder if apes waited to say hi to the Tigers every time they met, instead of taking off into the trees, would we still be here? I'm guessing all the Liberal Apes would've died out pretty quickly=) How many times would they need their faces ripped off before they learned to avoid the Tigers? Nature is good at killing off the weak.

 

Very good information.

 

You wrote:

"Feel free to Google the subject. Racial disparities in law enforcement are well documented. The context of your post was the false claim that race is not a factor. No matter where you are what you're doing, or who you're with.. If you have dark skskin, you are more likely to be approached by policethan if you are white."

You didn't say SOME police now did you? According to what you wrote it doesn't matter where one is, if one has dark skin they will be approached by police. Stop calling names.

Oh.....so now, according to you, the whole judicial system is prejudiced based on 'studies' you have yet to produce?

 

You used some very poor wording in that post. You made people out to be criminals just for fitting a profile, when that is not true.

It's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, and fitting a profile is not evidence of criminal.

I'd bet if you did some research into your personality type, and read up on what the FBI or other profiling says about you, you would be really surprised what you dins they say about you, and potentially really upset of what they think of you.

That's the weakness of profiling, is that it uses classification and labels.

That's why it's harmful to people.

 

You're listing everything except skin color as if to say it is not a part of the issue, when we know that it is. A black person wearing similar clothes is more likely to be profiled than a white person, and that's just the simple fact of the matter. A white person can too be profiled, but it is almost always for something external, like the clothes they are wearing.. which is still unacceptable behavior

you keep justifying prejudging people by their appearance, then when I point out how your argument implies it is okay to profile a black person if he "looks like a thug" you start all over with your well dressed black people argument..

so again I ask you, is it okay to profile black people, so long as they're not wearing a suit and a smile?

 

Your entire argument is inconsistent.. first you claim racial profiling isn't a thing... and then you move on to justifying why racial profiling occurs, and that it is a good thing. You even go as far as comparing profiling to an elephant protecting its calve from predators, as if to say people of different races are of difference species, and a black person is like a predator to a white person's child. Doesn't sound so nice when you use people profiling other people as an example, does it?