CNN Anchor Refers to Dallas Gunman’s Actions as ‘Courageous and Brave’

Brave and courageous does not equal good, or moral, or smart, or someone to look up. Those are no dependent values.

Someone can be both brave and an evil (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

Then by that standard Tim McVeigh, George Tiller and Hasan Nadal were all brave men when they struck their victims.
It turns out shooting and running isn't cowardly at all. It's brave. Who knew?

I don't see how a single line of dialogue from some fantasy television program is more authoritative than Miriam-Webster's dictionary.

 

The folks that wrote the dictionary made that standard (the standard that YOU put forth), not me. If you think that the people you listed meet the standard but are not brave, then take it up with them.

It's not. I never claimed that it was. I cited the dictionary first, as the authoritative source. I was then told that the word was NEVER EVER EVER used in the way that the dictionary defines it. So I showed a contemporary example of it being used in precisely that way.

 

I don't believe people who commit suicide are petty coward's. Disturbed, distraught, mixed up perhaps, even deranged, but the act itself of taking ones own life, whether instantly by eating a bullet, or jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge, or a tall building, requires a lot of discipline and intent. Many people who threaten to take their own life, often can be talked out of it by police negotiator's who are trained to deal with these problems. Suicide by cop? I am sure it happens a lot of times, the idea has only been identified recently as a psychological problem, and supposedly an easy way out.

This guy wasn't up to a suicide by cop. He had a problem with the police who, doing their duty, had taken custody of his son. He was distraught, and thought his life wasn't worth living, and loaded up his van with pipe bombs, and weapon's, and drove it to the Dallas Police headquarters to spray bullets and kill cops. The police sniper kills him, appropriate. The carnage which would have resulted if he had been able to carry out his plan, would have set off a flurry of police retaliation in this country, because of the liberal B/S being spread by the Black community, the NAACP, the President of the United States, and the liberal media.

A cop flips a teenage girl to the ground for failing to obey his order - the cop was out of control of course on that one in McKinney, and it is national news, because of the liberal fools who think the cops are out to kill civilians, or get some vicarious thrill pushing people around. But they are not out of control in killing a guy who was about to machine-gun down every cop he could in downtown Dallas.

We need to get real in this country and start holding the criminal element responsible for the crimes, not blathering over the criminals rights, and whether the cops are prejudiced and every interface with civilians, particularly with the Black community, must be confrontational. A whole lot of young black males are going to die from police bullets unless they change the way they act when confronted by cops.

You punch, attack, or hinder a cop in the performance of his or her duties, they are going to retaliate, fast.
You refuse to move on, or stop when they tell you to, they are going to detain you, with force if necessary.
You drive your car at 90-MPH on the highway - they are going to chase you. Anybody driving that speed in traffic is as dangerous as a man with a gun.
You commit a felony crime, and run from the police, they have the right to shoot you in the back, end of discussion. Be happy if all they do is send the dawg to chase you down.
If this citizen - police confrontational attitude continues, the cops are going to stop enforcing laws, check for cameras before they act, maybe get killed by crazies like this guy, and/or let innocent people get beaten or shot and refuse to act.
Responsibility for the situation? Obama's Administration. Liberal media jumping for the story without any of the facts and low information, poorly raised and educated children, particularly in the Black community, whose only protection from crime happen to be the police.

The theme song for the tv show COPS was penned by the Broward County Sheriff's Office in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, and that department has been featured on that show more times than any department in the country. It tells it all ......Bad Boys; Bad Boys; Whatcha Going To Do When They Come For You?"

What the media, the NAACP, the Black community, their leaders, the Rev. Sharpton and Jackson, the former Attorney General of the U.S., Eric Holder, and the President of the U.S., Barrak Obama have done is attempt to turn America upside down, make the duly authorized and legal authorities in this country the fall guys for the Black community's failures in almost everything they do, and absolved, or ignored, all the black on black crime - murders; rape; drug dealers; wife beaters; robbers and burglars into heroes who are the victims of the police.

The NAACP used to have a purpose and a slogan - "A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Waste." It is unfortunate that the U.S. government at the highest levels, and the Black community itself, given almost cradle to grave opportunities that others in this country don't receive, don't use their minds on anything whatsoever, but to scream racism and victim's. Personally? I don't care one bit what happens to that community, ever..........

 

Yep. As that article states, the racist rancher was illegally grazing his cattle.

 

Bronco Billy said;

"What does Reagan have to do with shooting police?"

I was referring to the "murdering piece of (*)(*)(*)(*)" part of you post.

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Working the land is fine. Grazing cattle illegally is not. There are millions of undocumented workers who work the land daily, btw.

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i stand by my statement, not your absurd misinterpretation of it.

Read it again.

 

QUOTE=mudman;1065098549]i stand by my statement, not your absurd misinterpretation of it.

Read it again.[/QUOTE]

I read it again. Panzerkampfwagon said (sarcastically) that goat herders shooting at US soldiers with AK-47 was cowardly but the soldiers dropping bombs on those goat herders were brave.

Then you said:

So you stand by your statement that dropping bombs on them was saving them. Got it.

 

The progressives decided that a freaking tortoise had more rights to graze on public land than my future rib eye steak.

 

I read it again. Panzerkampfwagon said (sarcastically) that goat herders shooting at US soldiers with AK-47 was cowardly but the soldiers dropping bombs on those goat herders were brave.

Then you said:




So you stand by your statement that dropping bombs on them was saving them. Got it.[/QUOTE]

Your reading comprehension is (*)(*)(*)(*)ing pathetic.

There are THREE groups of people and they are all specifically mentioned. There are the terrorists with the AK-47's, there's the US military, and....wait for it, there's the people who the terrorists with the AK-47's are killing. Those are the people that are being protected by the US military dropping bombs on the terrorists. You see them all the time in videos being beheaded, thrown off rooftops, etc. They exist too.

When you actually thought I was saying dropping bombs on people was protecting them, maybe you should've thought that you might have interpreted it wrong....

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...us-brave-live-air.html?login&login#newcomment

Ok. I am a little confused here. Why is this reporter getting abused all over the internet and all over news broadcasts.

She used the words "brave" and "courageous". Simply put, these words mean "without fear". Neither word has any positive, negative or moral aspect to their meaning. Just because they are often used in the context of a positive action, does not mean they can not also be used to describe a negative action.

This woman is getting unfairly abused and people are calling for her job just because her accusers are ignorant and completely misunderstand the definition of these words.

Like many other words in the English language these days, there is a public movement to "enforce" a specific subtext that does not technically exist.

I can't believe no one is defending her and her use of actual and correct language. News outlets and the media in general are so fearful of publish backlash they seem to be too afraid to correct a loud mouthed, outspoken and highly ignorant populace.

Just because so many people think "brave" and "courageous" have a positive definition, does not at all mean these words actually do have a positive definition.

She was in NO way attempting to glorify the gunman's actions and anyone who believes that is just plain insane and full of hate and boredom. The fact that the media would give in to these ridiculous demands is even more frustrating.

Just because a group of ignoramuses decides to force their definition of a word (or words) on the rest of the world and attempt to RUIN a woman's career does not mean everyone else should go along with it. Especially news outlets, who should have a much higher standard of language use.

This is just insane.

Saying "the gunman had no fear" is the same as saying he was "brave" and the same as saying he was "courageous" . People are just applying a subtext to these words that simply does not exist.

 

I don't even think the people I listed meet the standard. Planting a bomb, spraying a building
with deadly assault rifle fire from your armored "zombie apocalypse" vehicle, a surprise shooting of someone at a distance...the idea is not to face danger here. It's to do something heinous with a minimum of personal exposure for yourself, which may be smart but is hardly courageous.

And I also dispute that rape, murder and arson makes one a brave person. Using force and raw power to subjugate and degrade others is hardly a "brave" thing to do. Were the Nazis "brave" when they rounded people up and shipped them off to death camps?
It was actually fruitless resistance from those being victimized that showed true bravery

In my opinion your citation (from Game of Thrones) shows a real misuse of the English language.

 

Good...

 

Both have synonyms with the word "heroic". Context is still key. He may have felt "courageous" inside, but from an onlookers perspective that wouldn't be what comes to mind.

 

OMG. This is insane. The words brave and courageous are being taken OUT OF CONTEXT. They also just mean "without fear" . Just because people associate those words with ONE of their synonyms does not make those people correct.

This reporter was not wrong in her use of language and is being unfairly blasted for lack of understanding of the words.

For some to be calling for her job is just cruel and hateful. She was obviously not glorifying this man or calling him a hero.

I really think so many people out there have a lack of understanding of context and the English language that they should not be bullying this reporter based on their limited perception.

Brave and Courageous do NOT just have positive associations. It is not this reporters fault that a bunch of people out there think they do.

The only thing she is guilty of is overestimating the public's intelligence and understanding.

 

Yep, she had to admit a misspeak even though it was indeed pretty ballsy. There was just too much outrage from the crazies not to.

Think that'll calm 'em down? Me neither.

http://news.yahoo.com/cnn-fredricka-whitfield-dallas-police-shooter-courageous-brave-210006543.html

 

Love how BULLYING is at an all time high.

You do anything the "public" doesn't like and you will get bashed. Even if you are in the right.

If these outspoken, ignorant public bullies believe her usage of the words "brave" and "courageous" are the equivalent of glorification or calling him a hero or supporting the gunman, then it doesn't matter what the truth is.

Just because a words "brave" and "courageous" have a synonym that means something positive in context, does not mean those words must also be positive regardless of context.

It's really sad. Just like the movie Idiocracy. Ignorance is winning the race for public opinion and the fight for who can yell the loudest.

Seriously, so many bullies out there it makes me sick.

 

What she should have said was "gutsy" or "audacious." But this is CNN where the only credentials an anchor needs is to have are to have taken a women's lib and black theology course in college

 

I don't think doing something out of stupidity is the mark of something brave.

 

So if I break into a home where I know the people own guns and are quite adept at using them, murder the husband and rape the wife and the little girl they have and then murder them, I was brave and courageous because I knew of the danger I faced?

 

Its more than that, Im afraid....

That woman is inciting violence against the police.

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The progressives are the bullies.....

Its always been the case.

 

It was pretty stupid to take on battleships with destroyer escorts off Samar, yet those guys were brave.