City employees shocked by new insurance deductibles [From $500 to $7000]

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  1. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    Ummm no... 2008 during his campaign and even after. Read the article.
     
  3. Habana

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    It's like people forgot there is video.
    [video=youtube;66bgpRRSDD4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66bgpRRSDD4[/video]
     
  4. TheTaoOfBill

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    He's not talking about Obamacare here. Obamacare wasn't even invented yet. In fact at this time he was making statements strongly against an Obamacare type of system.

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    It's like people forget in 2007 he was against Obamacare (an individual mandate system) He's not talking about Obamacare here. He's talking about a single payer system that never came to be.
     
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    This is a myth. There is no evidence that supports this claim.
     
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    SourD New Member Past Donor

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    No he wasn't. You people are downright liars.

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    There is no evidence to support ANYTHING you say, so keep quiet.
     
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    Y
    As government employees, I doubt they are on any ACA plan
     
  10. SourD

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    There was NO compromise with R's at all..There you go lying again. Prove he was talking about single payer..Prove it or shove it.
     
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    Like care for my mythical vagina?

    Bonus.
     
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    Mine hasn't changed a nickel
     
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    Sure, sure I believe that like I believe anything that comes out of Obama's mouth. Oh wait I don't. I wonder is it hard to continue to defend a known liar?
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AOJBiklP1Q

    Then why is he speaking against an individual mandate here? He didn't want that kind of system in 2008. He was proposing a single payer system.
     
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    Oh that's just there in case you decide you think you have one or want one.
     
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    with a public option, premiums would have gone down.
     
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    No he wasn't. Don't you know a single payer system has a mandate too? DUH! When taxes are taken out of your pay to cover HC it is a MANDATE! He was talking about his ill conceived ACA. Stop the spin already.

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    No they wouldn't have, they would be just as high as now because almost 50% of people don't pay taxes.
     
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    I didn't say republicans. I said conservatives. Most republicans were against anything Obama came up with. But Obama needed to win a few conservative democrats and more moderate republicans before it could pass. Single payer didn't make it through the conservative democrats.
     
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    What compromise?

    Do you have short term memory?

    The Republicans where completely shut out of all ACA meetings. It was crafted behind closed doors by Democrats.

    Now stop trying to shovel the crap around.

    The crap was and is in one huge stinking pile that the Democrats and Obama own.

    NOW OWN IT!!!!
     
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    Please list the conservatives you're talking about that compromised?

    I can't wait to see what you will fabricate now :roflol:
     
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    Oklahoma is one of the most conservative states. I know in '08 they were the only state to have McCain win every district, so I'm not too sure they're getting what they deserve.
     
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    Then why did he signed the fricking POS legislation?

    Didn't he read it?????
     
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    Well said!

     
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    Of course there wasn't. This was the best Obama was going to get with the Republican Naysayers. Single payer was out of the question. Fixes could have been made, but the chronic attempts at repeal diverted that.
     

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