Why the Confederate flag still flies in South Carolina

Finally. The fact the Confederate flag is still flown in America is a disgrace to the real American's who fought against tyranny and intolerance. It's representation of bigotry and racism is known to all. There's honestly no place for that except as Obama puts it... "in a museum". It's about that time to free ourselves from that symbol and all the bigotry it represents...

#takeitdownSC

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(CNN)Even in the wake of overwhelming sadness, even amid charges of horrific crimes, there it was: the Confederate flag flying high above the grounds of the South Carolina Capitol.

Outrageous. Unthinkable. Cruel. Those were the kinds of words being thrown around by people still hurting deeply from what authorities say was a racially motivated slaughter inside Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church.

"This was an act of racial terrorism," the president of the NAACP, Cornell Brooks, shouted in Charleston. "That symbol has to come down!"

The fury might have arisen anyway, but it has been whipped to a fever pitch by the fact that while U.S. flags have been lowered, the Confederate battle flag remains high -- even padlocked into place.

Why?

It is a matter of state law.

Back in 2000, civil rights activists successfully lobbied to have a much larger Confederate flag removed from the Capitol dome. But there was a compromise. The South Carolina Heritage Act decreed that just about all other tributes to Confederate history would be virtually untouchable. The only way to change anything of that nature -- including the smaller flag that was erected on the State House lawn -- would be to gain the endorsement of two-thirds of lawmakers.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/19/us/south-carolina-confederate-flag-still-flies/index.html

 

LOL

More faux outrage from the liberals.

So by "free ourselves" I take it you want to make the Confederate flag illegal?

Flying it illegal, perhaps?

Good luck with that.

Just..... good luck.

ROFLMAO.

 

No, we want to take it down from any government buildings or in any official representation of America. If bigots or private citizens want to carry it in their personal lives or display it, that's fine.

 

? whos the we the NWO?/no borders or flags anymore..

 

Why?

You're still operating under the delusion that you can somehow "legislate away racism"?

I mean, it's been, what... 50 years now? And how well has it worked? You've got the same number of racists you did before, the only difference now is you're paying 'em not to riot (and that's not even working anymore either).

Don't you get it? You're doing the exact opposite of what you want. Instead of getting rid of racism, you are institutionalizing it.

 

What are you talking about?

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We can definitely remove symbols being used in an official capacity that represent racism. Good step forward.

 

No, bad logic. Do not uncouple an action from its consequences, that's how you institutionalize bad behavior.

I mean no offense, but you liberals are very poor students of human nature. What do you think is going to happen if you make racism illegal? Do you think it'll get rid of all the racists? NO, it won't. It'll drive them underground, is what'll happen. It's just like the gays, you can't make gays go away by legislating against them, and if you do it'll just drive them into the closet instead of getting rid of them. Same thing with the racists. And I mean, if you're a smart liberal you want the racists out in the open where you can see 'em, not in the closet where they can plan dangerous things.

Right now, today, I'd venture to say that there are more black racists than white racists. That seems to be what's happening today. Liberals will deny it, but the numbers say there's an awful lot of racial hatred in liberal-land.

I really do think you're wasting your time going after the symbols. That's not going to change anything. You can't clobber people over the head on stuff like this.... drugs, alcohol, tobacco.... racism. Birds of a feather.

As with drugs, you'd be smarter to "tax and regulate" than trying to start a war you can't win.

 

You're thinking way too much in to this. All I'm saying is they should remove the flag from government buildings as it does not represent America in any way. It would be like if a Government building was flying the North Korean flag. There is nothing I have said that would restrict the flag from personal use.

 

The confederate flag flown outside the South Carolina state house is not supposed to represent "America"; that's what the U.S. flag is for. The rebel flag represents the Southern states. It's a state building, not a federal one.

 

And yet, on some official government(and even travel agencies) you see multiple flags, such as Germany's or Italy's, etc. Yet flying the Confederate is a big no-no? Flying the Confederate is actually more tantamount to flying Scotland's national flag in Britain. Since the South was and is part of the Union, that was a huge reason for the war on the North's part. Lincoln would not recognize two countries as a whole, if there was to be an 'America', the South would be subjugated by the North.

 

Liberals just find anything to whine about nowadays. Now it's the flag bandwagon. Again.

 

Whatever official buildings whether it is state or federal represents America first. With that said, a state should not be allowed to display symbols of bigotry and racism in an official capacity.

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What official government buildings do you see a "German Flag" flying that's not an embassy? I've honestly never seen a German flag flying on any building in my life. And yes, the Confederate flag is a big no-no as they were true traitors to the United States of America.

 

See, that's the thing about symbols, they have no set meaning. They are in the eye of the beholder. South Carolina does not see it as a symbol of bigotry and racism.

 

So we should tax and regulate Nazis? Maybe have parades and festivals where they can have little faux concentration camps and a "torture the jew" booth where a thrown swastika will drop a little girl dressed like Anne Frank into the "oven". Fun for the whole family, what?

That flag represents the genocide of a whole race just as much as the Swastika represents the Holocaust. Anybody who defends it is defending treason against the US and the wholesale murder of an entire race over centuries. They are disgusting.

The Germans have the right idea as to how to handle their "heroic" past. You can still tour the functioning Reichstag in Berlin but if you want to fly the Swastika or call yourself a Nazi in Germany you'll be arrested and rightly so. Some things, such as the outright execution of 13 million innocents and/or the genocidal enslavement of millions, are beyond what humanity should tolerate in any fashion, free speech or no.

 

No it doesn't. It represents Heritage, not hate.

 

Pretty much every country has be established on common beliefs, ethnicity and/or religion - and most have had to fight for self determination at some point. So to them they're all bigoted, thats why we've seen the same said about the American flag. Basically they'd have a problem with any flag that isnt all inclusive, which leaves us with.....a world govt or the new world order and would have to socialist of course!

 

They weren't traitors to anything, the Union was an agreement, a pact between the States. It was not a National Country by the means we know it today, until and after the North had won the war It was the North's posiiton that the South was a part of the Union(cheap labor). And the South said: To hell with that, we have our own problems.

The issues that divided the North/South in the 18th century, are the same issues that plague us in the 21st. The Northern States are afluenzed and have infrastructure, while the South does not have the kind of infrastructure or city economy to generate millions of US dollars. They are quite figuratively at an economic disadvantage. Technically speaking, under siege by the North.

The difference between today and yesterday(outside of the US's tactical superiority which only increased by millions fold by this point) is that the South in recognizing its economic plight, also recognizes it can only be relevant within the context of the Union. Compounding this however, is the North's expansive policies(ACA, etc) which further loads debt on the South in which even the Union is not a reprieve for struggling Southern States.

I have to agree with the Russian Political scientist: The US will break up. The Northern States simply do not look out of their backyard, whether its the Midwest or the South. The result being, the US's economic solvency will be put into play. Unlike the last time which resulted in a civil war, this will probably be a very mutual and silent breakup.

 

That's what Nazis say about their flag

 

After we revisit the Confederate flag, we need to revisit the US flag, as it is a symbol of genocide, imperialism, and mass murder.

 

And the communists which is displayed all over the place.

 

You have a small window to push your lame, meaningless agenda through. Once it's closed, the Confederate flag will stay, and your only chance to bring it down is if another black church is massacred by a white supremacist in South Carolina. I'm sure if you miss out on this opportunity to exploit a tragedy for political purposes, you will be fervently praying for another tragedy to capitalize on.

 

I hope I don't have to spell out the fact that the Nazi Regime and those closely associated with it are very clearly dead. Whereas the Southern States still exist, but merely unionized under the US(Northern) terms. The Confederate Flag is as part of the history of former Confederate States, as again: A scottish flag wouldn't be too out of place in Britain.

Why are Liberals so ignorant about history, especially US history? Liberals shouldn't call themselves an 'intellectual party' until they first learn the meaning behind the word "context".

 

Confederate flag will be gone in my life time. As America gets less intolerant, symbols that represent pass intolerance, bigotry, and racism, will eventually be removed. Right-wing attacks are not over... the DHS warned of this happening and currently they are a bigger threat to Americans than ISIS.

 

The Confederate battle flag is not a symbol of bigotry and racism, so your complaints are unfounded and absurd, as usual.

 

There's more Nazis alive than Confederates who got their arses owned in the Civil War, lol. Not a single person in the South right now has anything to do with the Confederate flag. It's a remembrance of their past efforts to take over America and create their bigoted country they desired. The fact the federal government allows that flag to be flown by state governments is sickening.

Like Obama says, the flag should only be found in museums.