Why the Confederate flag still flies in South Carolina

Nah, whenever the common sense community and I see it we understand it represents bigotry and racism. It represents no other thing to be prideful for. There is no reason to have any pride in the Confederates. They were pretty much traitors trying to destroy America and bring on centuries of bigotry and racism.

 

The Confederate flag will never be gone, no matter how much sissy Marxists try to get rid of it.

But if you are correct about symbols of intolerance, bigotry, and racism being removed, then, it's only a matter of time before the US flag is removed, since it represents genocide, imperialism, and mass murder.

 

It will definitely be gone in any official capacity. But just like other flags that represent sad pasts, they will be allowed to be displayed by those that want to carry on that sad tradition.

 

There is no such thing as the "common sense community", and if there were, you are the last person who would represent it.

The Confederate battle flag is just St. Andrew's cross. It represents the Scottish people. That's really all there is to it. Everything else is just propaganda.

 

Symbolism is subjective. And you are definitely in the minority when it comes to that false representation of the Confederate flag. Like I said, the common sense community views the flag as a symbol of bigotry and racism. So your attempt to distract others from the true meaning of the flag, is noted.

 

I'm sure there are plenty of cry-baby Marxists who wish it were so.

It's no worse than the US flag, which is a symbol of native American genocide, Japanese-American internment, and the mass murder of Vietnamese, Laotians, Cambodians, Iraqis, etc.

 

Here....learn a little history before you speak...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America

By the way, is this the same liberals (attacking the "Confederate flag", which it really is just a battle flag) who step on America's Old Glory, want to change Old Glory into some NWO sissified flag and won't salute Old Glory because it's just a "damned flag"?????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6mAOSOAzZI

 

St. Andrew is the patron saint of Scotland. Nothing subjective about it. It's the same cross that appears in the Scottish flag and the flag of Florida. Your subjective feeling are less than irrelevant.

There is no such thing as the common sense community, and if there were, you would be the last person on Earth who would represent it.

Next time, try making an argument that doesn't rely on inventing groups and appointing yourself their spokesperson.

 

You're all over the place and not making much sense. How can the flag's meaning be subjective yet only have one "true meaning"?

What you meant to say is that your interpretation of the stars and bars is not the same as mine, right?

 

Far more innocent people have died in the shadow of the US flag than the Confederate flag.

The US government has committed numerous crimes against humanity. What kind of genocidal nut would fly a flag that represents the murder of millions of native Americans and foreigners?

 

This here, is an indictment on the US Education system. If only you were as well-versed in history as you were in economics you'd realize that the statement you're making is categorically false.

Mississippian Jefferson Davis as president, sought a peaceful separation, but the United States refused to acquiesce in the secession.

The 11 States of the Confederacy had no intentions of "taking over America", or the "world", or are comparable to Nazis in anyway. They had no such capabilities or even goals. They merely wanted to maintain their status quo economically. It was an economic war, led by yours truly: Abraham Lincoln. The US's first Fascist.

 

Akphidelt contradicts himself at least once a thread.

He is exactly as well-versed in history as he is in economics, which is to say not at all.

 

O, ok, thanks for the head's up.

 

This is what is referred to as the 'no true scotsman' fallacy. Insisting that only people without common sense disagree with your opinion. It's nonsense and a weak substitute for a reasonable retort.

 

The very premise of your argument is founded on intolerance. How does forcing your vision of the flag make the country LESS intolerant?

 

So give me a good reason why we should be allowed to fly the American flag? You know the one that represents a country that essentially committed genocide against an entire race of people in the native americans. They were enslaved, tortured, had biological warfare used against them and brutally eradicated. Once they were eradicated enough, we then rounded them up, took their land and shipped them off to small areas of the country where they could be easily controlled.

And do we need to get into the massacre that the American government engaged in at Nagasaki and Hiroshima?

Why should the American flag which represents those atrocities still fly but the confederate one shouldn't? What excuse can you provide to the native American who says that flag is offensive to them?

 

While today it most definitely represents little more than bigotry and racism, it is well to remember that it is a flag of treason against the United States of America. As such, it should not be allowed to be flown on government property.

 

No actually it's not. The north flew the flag of treason. The south was PROTECTING the constitution of the US from the North who was attempting to unilaterally and unconstitutionally change it. Even to go so far as to ignore a direct order from the Supreme Court to stop.

Take your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) propaganda somewhere else.

 

Fascinating. Now, let's check back with reality for another view:

trea·son

/ˈtrēzən/

noun: treason; noun: high treason; plural noun: high treasons

the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.

 

Then the north committed treason.

The government of the united states is based upon the constitution and the checks and balances provided therein. The North was attempting to subvert the constitution and those checks and balances by unilaterally changing the constitution through policy, ignoring the requirements therein and outright defy the SCOTUS who tried to use the checks and balances to put them back in their place.

Do you support the government ignoring provisions of the constitution because it sees fit? Would you be okay if they attempted to do the same thing with the freedom of speech or the right to bear arms? If the government was engaging in policy that essentially made the freedom of speech or the right to bear arms nullified because they felt they were dangerous, not good for society and caused copious amounts of harm... And even AFTER you took them to court and the court says they can't do it... they continue to do so.... What would your suggestion be?

 

Hot damn. That's the funniest thing I've read all week.

 

Spare me the liberal crap. The world wasn't going to let a stone age culture dominate the hemisphere. Hell, they didn't have horses till we brought them. Indian life was based upon seasonal warfare and was short and brutish. Homicide was common and still is. Slavery was widely practiced and torture was considered a sport. We won't even get into the mass human sacrifices by the Aztec et al. As for Hiroshima and Nakasaki, millions of Japanese would have died if Operation Olympic and Coronet were allowed to proceed. Nothing like a little bleeding liberal heart. Geez you people.

 

I have to admit, I've read a lot of history books in my lifetime (currently working on a biography of Robert E. Lee), but I have never heard this twisted, distorted view before. Then again, Stormfront isn't my home page, either.

 

First of all, if you think I'm a liberal, then you're the King of Siam. I'm the farthest thing from a liberal on this board.

I feel like we should fly the American flag high and proud, who gives a fat baby's ass what the native americans say?

And I feel like southerners should be able to fly the confederate flag anywhere they want anytime they want and fly it with pride.

But if someone is going to advocate that the southerners shouldn't be able to fly their flag because it was flown during a time of oppression then they're going to need to explain to me why the hell we should be allowed to fly the American flag.

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You haven't? Did you not see in your history books where the North was attempting to keep the new states from becoming slave holding states? Did you not see where they were taken to court for doing so and told that it was unconstitutional? Did you not see where they CONTINUED to engage in those activities even after they were told not to? Did you not see where the northern states were not prosecuting its people who were engaged in freeing slaves which is unconstitutional?

Which part exactly did you not see?

 

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The confederate flag is a southern, white man thing. Rednecks, if you will. The only place I've ever seen it displayed in the US, is in the southern states. To a northerner like me, I've always seen it as a racist thing, not cultural insofar that many white southerners (I know) do not and will not display that flag. Having said that, to me, it's a states issue and if people there want to display it on a flag pole, it's no skin off my teeth. I actually use that flag as a marker, sort of, when I travel down south. If a place of business has it displayed on their property, I avoid it.