Rowan KY Clerk Sued For Not Issuing Marriage Licenses

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Most public employees allow for that employee, to be recused from certain duties if it violates their religious beliefs. However, in Kentucky (specifically) all county clerks take an "Oath Of Office" which makes them a state "constitutional officer". At that level, they are compelled by both law and oath, to fulfill their duties which includes marriage licenses. A statement from the Kentucky office of Attorney General Jack Conway said the Supreme Court decision is clear;

"The government cannot pick and choose when it comes to issuing marriage licenses and the benefits they confer," Conway's statement reads. "Any clerk that refuses to issue marriage licenses is opening himself or herself to potential legal liability and sanctions."​

Moreover, Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear admonished the clerks who are refusing to cooperate.

"Our county clerks took an oath, as elected officials, to uphold the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of Kentucky and to provide important duties in their communities," Beshear said. "This oath does not dictate what our clerks must believe, but it certainly prescribes how they must act in carrying out their duties as elected officials." ​

Understandably, any state facing this kind of insubordinate actions by clerks, is going to tread slowly as the right same sex marriage is new and with a some people, very emotional. Regardless, eventually either the clerks perform all their duties or be legally relieved of office.

 

So anti discrimination laws only apply to government workers? Does that mean you disagree with forcing a baker to make a wedding cake for a gay couple?

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So you believe in only enforcing the law against some people?

 

I presume also, that all Civil Service Departments in all states in America would have a "Code of Conduct"
If they dont...then they should have...and refusing to do your duty would amount to a charge of Misconduct....

 

She has choices. She can quit or do what she is told to do by her employer. Or she can refuse and be sacked. She has no defence. However she could quit and sue for constructive dismissal but I don't fancy her chances.

 

Ahhhh, the kind, loving and tolerant far left wing of Obama's People's Party. Wishing misery and destruction upon anyone who disagrees with them. You make your leader proud with your understanding and compassion. Support the State at all costs, even unto the destruction or death of those who would resist the almighty State.

Glad I don't live next door to such an angry person as yourself.

Heil Barack!

 

YES......Religious belief does NOT in any way allow for disobeying our laws.

There is very good reason for a separation clause.

 

So you're in favour of employees being able to refuse work instructions?

 

Only because it rubs you the wrong way. The left does the same chit, but tells everyone else that they are protected by the First Amendment because of THEIR situation and beliefs, but takes umbrage when it's something and someone they don't like. Hypocrites...

You guys can get all pi$$y and authoritarian you want, but you're just a bunch of hypocrites that are upset because people are pushing back against the tyranny of the government you love and support. I always wonder what makes liberals such angry and hateful people that they want to see people suffer for believing differently than they do. It's almost like a Napoleon complex, but more than that. Hmmmm....?

 

No mate...Im from Australia...I just think its ridiculous that civil clerks think that they can use the First Amendment
to support their grievances when it does even apply to their situation....personally, I couldnt give a stuff what happens
in America...I worry about the fools running Australia.....

 

anti discrimination laws also protect religious people from being discriminated against...agree?

 

If it conflicts with their religious beliefs, yes. In such cases I think it would be in the best interest of the government entity to make a reasonable accommodation, and utilize another employee who is willing to do anything the state tells him or her to do. You can bet your azz there would be no repercussions if the employee were a Muslim woman who refused to issue a gay marriage license. I'd bet $100 on that one that she walks without penalty.

Please forgive me for using the word "reasonable." I know it's not allowed in leftist/progressive/Marxist/Socialist language.

 

For someone who doesn't "give a stuff," you sure spend a lot of time concerning yourself with our challenges. Not being and American, you cannot appreciate the First Amendment, any more than we can understand why you people voluntarily disarmed yourselves. Both are foreign to each other.

 

I just do it while Im watching the football....it entertains me....
As far as the First Amendment goes...I can read....
Disarming ourselves is the opposite to all the
slaughter you have in America because of the 2nd Amendment....
1st amendment rights..... 2nd amendment rights....hows that working for you........what a freekin mess....

 

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Your fiery but empty rhetoric aside, what happens to the clerk is irrelevant. The law will be served one way or another and the licenses will be issued. She'll get her 15 minutes of fame (or ignominy) and be replaced. Life will go on.

 

It's working great for me and my family. All of the adults, male & female, are licensed to carry and protect themselves. We don't depend on the undependable government to protect us. They are there to do the paperwork after the fact.

The "slaughter" is among the bottom tier of humanity in this country, just like it is in every country. Sure, you can cherry pick an incident here and there, but where concealed carry is proliferating, crime is decreasing. Since you like to read, check the FBI Statistics which proves this. Funny though, the anti-gun weirdos do not embrace their own government's statistics proving my point. Go figure...just like a liberal to deny facts & truth. LOMA

 

Where does the Bible say "Thou shalt not perform bureaucratic civil service duties for gays"?

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The GOVERNMENT has no first amendment rights.

 

Yes....I agree. However they do not ALLOW for discrimination either. The interpretation of ancient text about sky fairies included.

If this was allowed there would be no point in having the laws at all, as anyone could make up anything to bypass them whenever they wanted.

" My religion says to kill those people, so I can do it."

 

Seriously if you read the first amendment it does not interpret the way the civil clerks are interpreting it....just read it slowly......

 

Empty rhetoric? Because it doesn't support your viewpoint? You're laughable at best.

The clerk is not looking for any amount of fame, and what happens to her IS relevant. Just because she holds dear a belief should not be grounds to demonize/punish/destroy her. The Muslim woman in her position would be given an accommodation in a heartbeat, and to deny that would show your ignorance of how tolerance works under the Obama regime. Nobody would DARE challenge the Mulim's religious views, not even you. But you only seem to understand the vindictive approach towards people with Christian beliefs and values, so you cannot appreciate the concept of reasonable accommodation...unless it's for one of YOUR belief systems. Right?

 

They should have done like our clerks did here in Ms. and resign from their jobs over their religious convictions. Which BTW isn't covered by MSM, and we have had a number of them to do this. But MSM seeks to inflame, to divide, and this doesn't do that well enough.

 

Oh now that is rich, of course you must be joking.

 

Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God's.
If a religious person is incapable of fulfilling the civic duties of their job, they need to find another job.
The right to equal treatment under the law supersedes an individual's right to act prejudicially in the workplace.
These people are bigots and hypocrites anyway since they display only selective outrage toward gays while giving all of the rest of us sinners a pass.
If they were true to their beliefs, why do they give licenses out to divorcees? Why rent hotel rooms to adulterers?
The neo-bigots aren't fooling anyone. This is just a redux of the inter-racial marriage hysteria.

 

Yep. Sure do.

Nope. They might go to jail if they refuse to follow the Constitution they swore to uphold, not for their beliefs, whatever they might be.

P.S. - I'm sick and tired of hearing that "violates my religious beliefs" copout. Just go put your hair shirts back in the closet and follow the flamin' law or find another job and continue to proudly fly the flag of bigotry at full staff.

 

No one is to obey unjust laws, specially laws directed against nature.

The US government has reached the ridiculous by forcing government agencies to surrender under the lunacy of some people. Homosexuality is a mental condition that requires treatment, not so the proliferation of it.

 

Gays have their own flag, let them have their own authorities working in different buildings giving marriage license to those different people.